2016 Postmortem

Baobab

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71. Gothmog, you're totally wrong

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:51 AM

Apr 2016

Americans want Single payer public healthcare and have wanted it for decades. Sanders is wildly overestimating the costs of his proposals (single payer actually costs less than what we do now so it would effectively cost nothing) and people still want them.

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Bernie's down to his last Hail Mary. And it won't work. [View all] DanTex Apr 2016 OP

Hillary has obviously polished the election rigging. JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #1

Abandon all hope. Hillary is here! Baobab Apr 2016 #32

The college vote got Obama elected and re-elected. JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #45

Bernie is not a neoliberal, Obama is. Baobab Apr 2016 #49

I think Obama set the stage for Bernie's win. JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #51

No more lesser evilism for me Baobab Apr 2016 #58

Bernie's Jewish! Baobab Apr 2016 #112

Bernie's narrow representation is a real difficulty for him Sheepshank Apr 2016 #54

With Hillary, everything she does has a double meaning that is dishonest. Baobab Apr 2016 #61

I dunno. I look at it the other way around KPN Apr 2016 #69

Hillary is a big booster of the poison trade deals Baobab Apr 2016 #52

The young were only one part of Obama's winning coalition CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #88

So she has 2.5 million more popular votes than Bernie by "stealing the election?" MoonRiver Apr 2016 #48

The day isn't over. JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #50

If she is corrupt so is President Obama, and virtually every other president in recent history. MoonRiver Apr 2016 #55

I think Carter was our last president who wasn't corrupt. Baobab Apr 2016 #65

And you may want to consider the Church's corruptive influence on Bernie ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #114

Hence the vote. JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #115

i don't like either nolawarlock Apr 2016 #116

Please try to inform yourself a little COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #83

Why bother to hold primaries for the people if the party has already decieded? JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #91

At the risk of hearing more from The Wizard of Oz, what is COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #93

Think about it. JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #94

Nope. I asked you a question. Your answer? COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #95

LOL JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #96

That's about what I expected. Quit while you're COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #97

Maybe you should apologize for the personal attack. JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #98

No personal attack was made or intended. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #99

PS JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #92

Well, it doesn't hurt to have a spare. After all, Hortensis Apr 2016 #2

She doesn't seem to do very well in matchups against possible Republican nominee Human101948 Apr 2016 #4

The GOP is in bad, bad trouble Hortensis Apr 2016 #8

Why then do the polls show her doing so badly against them? Human101948 Apr 2016 #9

Propaganda is for fools. Don't be fooled. Hortensis Apr 2016 #10

Not true. Sanders presents so little attack surface. Baobab Apr 2016 #36

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #81

He is prime meat for Republican attack. Probable examples: COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #86

GOP hopes to win wih Hillary. Baobab Apr 2016 #67

And her negatives would soar still higher when people find out about the WTO Baobab Apr 2016 #33

Polls on GE results so far out are meaningless. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #84

Yes, Bernie doesn't have the buckets of corporate cash to shower upon those pros... Human101948 Apr 2016 #6

Buckets of Corporate Koch money being spent to help Bernies bid for POTUS Sheepshank Apr 2016 #56

You are desperate! Baobab Apr 2016 #63

BSers seem to throw that label out so frequently, I wonder what they think it means? Sheepshank Apr 2016 #74

Hillary has done her best to exclude Bernie Baobab Apr 2016 #66

I wonder how long it will take Hillary to launch her first Tomahawk Missle? Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #3

I'll take first 100 days... Human101948 Apr 2016 #5

Yeah, but what part of that first 100 days? Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #7

With Bush I said we would be in a war within a year, and it came true. Baobab Apr 2016 #40

we are almost out of them SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #113

You've really devolved as a poster. nt Bonobo Apr 2016 #11

Aside from personal attacks, do you have a comment on the OP? DanTex Apr 2016 #12

No, pretty much I just wanted to say that. nt Bonobo Apr 2016 #13

It always happens- a great DanTex post has some BSS dissolve into redstateblues Apr 2016 #60

A great DanTex post is kinda like Bigfoot. frylock Apr 2016 #89

lol BlindTiresias Apr 2016 #103

Where do those numbers in your head come from Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #14

Bernie hasn't beaten anyone. He's polling ahead of Trump, but the GOP hasn't campaigned DanTex Apr 2016 #15

Whatever. Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #16

Hillary is beating both Cruz and Trump comfortably. And those numbers already DanTex Apr 2016 #17

You're comfortable with +2.5? That's Hillary's margin over Cruz. Barack_America Apr 2016 #18

They don't matter much, right now, but Hillary is ahead of them both. DanTex Apr 2016 #19

Dude Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #21

I'm talking about real people too. You don't think you're the only one who DanTex Apr 2016 #23

The primaries were heavily wieghted in the states in the south Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #24

You mean like Ohio? DanTex Apr 2016 #26

. Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #35

Wherever those people are they are not at her rallies. The people at her rallies dont look so enthus Baobab Apr 2016 #41

They're in the voting booth, which is the only place that matters. DanTex Apr 2016 #42

But not Trump right? revbones Apr 2016 #76

Not true Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #53

You really don't want us to start posting about what will come out about Hillary (and Bill) Vinca Apr 2016 #20

Post what you want, everyone already knows about it. DanTex Apr 2016 #22

I have no interest in posting it. Vinca Apr 2016 #25

Be honest CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #46

Not if she ends up the nominee I don't. I don't want a President Trump. Vinca Apr 2016 #82

No they don't. Huge things have been effectively suppressed. Baobab Apr 2016 #68

Here is the thing. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #27

Dukakis has around one percent of the appeal of Bernie Sanders. Baobab Apr 2016 #101

Another DU Hillarian opinion post... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #28

You have valid points, the majority of the SD's are seasoned politicians who Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #29

Their other tactic to to try to subvert pledged delegates Tarc Apr 2016 #30

Likely you are correct. Other then an FBI indictment of Clinton (50/50?), chances jmg257 Apr 2016 #31

50/50. LOL. You've been reading too much right-wing media. DanTex Apr 2016 #34

Maybe-definitely depends on who is doing the reporting.So fun doing a google to see what comes up! jmg257 Apr 2016 #43

Sad that it has come down to googling Hillary for BSS redstateblues Apr 2016 #64

Berners love RW media CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #47

on healthcare, people may be happy with their health coverage in general, but who SERIOUSLY Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #37

if Bernie wins the several remaining states by a big margin, I think it will be incumbent on Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #38

Bernie is collapsing in his home state NY redstateblues Apr 2016 #62

where do you get that from? Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #87

Link? frylock Apr 2016 #90

Lol, do you think any bernie supporter would actually read such a rude title? Nt Logical Apr 2016 #39

Democrats would be insane to nominate Bernie Sanders Gothmog Apr 2016 #44

Gothmog, you're totally wrong Baobab Apr 2016 #71

Why single payer died in Vermont Gothmog Apr 2016 #79

This story is total bullshit. ALSO VERMONT'S PROPOSAL WAS NEVER SINGLE PAYER!! Baobab Apr 2016 #100

If Sanders could not get this past in his home state, then he can not get it done nationwide Gothmog Apr 2016 #110

Yes, FACTS ARE IMPORTANT Baobab Apr 2016 #111

Why They are HIDING the fact that SINGLE PAYER WORKS Baobab Apr 2016 #104

Krugman- Sanders health plan looks a little bit like a standard Republican tax-cut plan Gothmog Apr 2016 #109

It already worked. democrank Apr 2016 #57

Stop pointing out Bernie's flaws!! redstateblues Apr 2016 #59

Spot on! nt LAS14 Apr 2016 #70

You are rationalizing your flawed view. KPN Apr 2016 #72

"H(aving) A(neurism) Goodman" is how I think of him now. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #73

The fact it is called the "last" Hail Mary is telling Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #75

Only the faithful believe he will win NY by 10 even though he trails by 10+ in the last 6 NY polls. LonePirate Apr 2016 #102

Michigan Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #105

MI - Open primary permitting Independents. NY - Closed primary with no Independents LonePirate Apr 2016 #106

All hail St Hillary of Walmart, our Blessed Lady of Inevitability, and the affluent fruit Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #77

The sound of fear. n/t Orsino Apr 2016 #78

Another big attack area is that he is agnostic. anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #80

That's his best quality (in my opinion). But, it's not enough to convince me to vote for him. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #117

A hail mary has a better chance of working. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #85

Tell that to Bernie supporter Aaron Rodgers Blue Owl Apr 2016 #107

Prof. Michelle Alexander... pantsonfire Apr 2016 #108