2016 Postmortem

Warren DeMontague

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73. "all honest experts" - you realize those are 3 completely subjective words?

Reply to Hortensis (Reply #68)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:26 PM

Apr 2016

I suppose the ones who don't either aren't "honest" or aren't "experts", or both.

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Hillary sponsored a Senate bill for a $100,000 fine and one year in jail for FLAG BURNING [View all] Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 OP

context? bettyellen Apr 2016 #1

Authoritarian jingoistic pandering? Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #3

Perfect answer. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #18

Yes and no to "jingoistic pandering." Hortensis Apr 2016 #22

Sounds like the same bullshit argument used to justify DOMA. Kentonio Apr 2016 #41

As in we don't get to screw "them" and do Hortensis Apr 2016 #50

More people supporting something has never been enough to get a constitutional amendment passed. Kentonio Apr 2016 #54

Stop pretending that other people don't matter. Hortensis Apr 2016 #55

4/5th of the population were not going to support a constitutional amendment on flag burning Kentonio Apr 2016 #56

I'm talking about all the silly intolerant extremism spouted here. Hortensis Apr 2016 #58

What does any of this have to do with Hillary showing appalling judgement Kentonio Apr 2016 #60

No, it's not reality. The bill of rights was put there to protect citizens against both government Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #76

And yet, The bar to actually amend the Constitution is pretty fuckin' high. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #46

Quite possibly it would have failed. But that's not the point. Hortensis Apr 2016 #67

Then why didn't they do it? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #72

Large part because Dems spiked their amendment gun Hortensis Apr 2016 #75

Bullshit. The whole "flag burning" nonsense never had any real traction to begin with. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #79

A moderate liberal? timmymoff Apr 2016 #66

Timmy, you don't get to just make up stuff. Hortensis Apr 2016 #68

"all honest experts" - you realize those are 3 completely subjective words? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #73

Moderate liberal a term made up to make moderate smell better timmymoff Apr 2016 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Apr 2016 #88

The Context is, it was between 2002-2006, the era she apparently gets a pass for. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #5

She thought she'd be running for president and would need to impress conservatives. senz Apr 2016 #16

about the 6th roll out of the flag burning menace reddread Apr 2016 #51

The compromise with the Republicans instead of a neverforget Apr 2016 #2

Good grief. We Ilsa Apr 2016 #42

So, she's soft on crime! HassleCat Apr 2016 #4

NY TIMES: SENATOR CLINTON IN PANDER MODE Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #6

Triangulation in a nutshell Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #14

No surprise here passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #20

Critical legislation, because the American flag has been under assault from flag burners BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #7

I remember arguing about that with right wingers. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #8

Do we know if she has evolved? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #21

Opinion surveying in progress, we'll get back to you on that soon... /The Clinton camp jack_krass Apr 2016 #45

Depends who's asking, what day it is, what polls indicate, etc. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #64

Some people get conservative in their old age, others more liberal. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #9

She's headed in every possible direction at the same time? Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #10

She went... thataway. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #11

weathervane.gif Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #12

It's the third leg of the triangulation "stool" XemaSab Apr 2016 #13

LOLs gross Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #17

That is one hell of a straddle. nt artislife Apr 2016 #37

the bootlickers on DU called it "inoculation" against the inevitable GOP attacks MisterP Apr 2016 #15

She's ABSURD. AzDar Apr 2016 #19

I'm surprised nobody has tried to defend this for Hillary Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #28

Probably because it's indefensible. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #90

Why does she hate the Chinese? Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #23

Her and her husband also did a bill in Arkansas to protect the Confederate flag. Zira Apr 2016 #24

Wait what? If that's real we should be posting that on the internet 24 hours a day Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #25

removed. Zira Apr 2016 #27

No, I had it wrong. They put a star to commemorate the Confederate flag, in the Arkansas flag. Zira Apr 2016 #29

still bad. Thanks for checking. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #30

The star was added in the 1920s Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #33

Here's the bill Fumesucker Apr 2016 #38

Kind of a weird bill Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #40

WTH! the top star is for the Confederacy per the article. Zira Apr 2016 #65

Um, that star was added to the Arkansas state flag in the 1920s Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #86

I'm going off the article posted. Read what it says in the sentence above the stuff outlined in red. Zira Apr 2016 #87

The article sounds bogus to me Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #91

I'll take your word. I've never been to Arkansas so have no idea otherwise. Zira Apr 2016 #92

The more I think of it, the more I think something is not quite right here Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #43

Still wrong.They did not put that star there. WJC signed a bill from the legislature that explained Tanuki Apr 2016 #49

It is not that big a fine. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #26

Just amazing. -nt- chascarrillo Apr 2016 #31

K&R. This actually happened. It was all over the news. That's when I knew I would never vote for JDPriestly Apr 2016 #32

Not only dumb, JD, but unconstitutional. The SCOTUS had already held that flag burning was speech merrily Apr 2016 #35

TWO bills, TWO years in a row. The reply you will get is that she did so to prevent a merrily Apr 2016 #34

That's the whole story of the modern Democratic Party in a nutshell Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #62

Emphasis on "story" nt merrily Apr 2016 #63

The flag amendment came within one vote of getting the necessary 2/3 in the Senate in 2006. onenote Apr 2016 #81

People sure have short memories onenote Apr 2016 #83

I remember that. artislife Apr 2016 #36

Meanwhile her husband's Treasury secretary Rubin lied to investors during the financial crisis jfern Apr 2016 #39

The authoritarian mindset: Smoke a joint, burn a flag, buy a dildo, go to prison. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #48

authoritarian fascists tend to act that way restorefreedom Apr 2016 #44

Given the open contempt some people on our "side" regularly display for the 1st Amendment Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #47

Maybe they're just waiting for right moment Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #61

She is basically a republican on many topics. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #52

Hillary wanted to outlaw freedom of speech? Cosmic Kitten Apr 2016 #53

But it's Hillary! So who cares! pinebox Apr 2016 #57

This is the Onion isn't it? EndElectoral Apr 2016 #59

LOL, sounds about right vintx Apr 2016 #69

She sponsored flag burning bills twice, not once but twice. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #70

Link? onenote Apr 2016 #74

Resumé padding. bvf Apr 2016 #71

Holy Crap !! She is not a Liberal and certainly not a Progressive berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #77

Oh man, has she ever been on the RIGHT side of an issue? Merryland Apr 2016 #78

Is pandering a principle? eom guillaumeb Apr 2016 #80

Is anyone actually surprised by this? ibegurpard Apr 2016 #84

I'm afraid I actually was. Live and learn. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #94

And it failed. frylock Apr 2016 #85

Bad enough to vote for it. But *introduce* it???!!! nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #89

I know right? It's really something. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #93