2016 Postmortem

CoffeeCat

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34. You're right about "fuzzy"

Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:34 PM

Apr 2016

I think she has gone to great lengths to make her stance "fuzzy."

And I agree with you, the average person may not understand the issue (or care about it as much) as others.

I see those in upstate NY has having a VERY clear understanding of her positions and her actions regarding fracking. For many New Yorkers in those areas, fracking is their number one issue.

Very cool about ZT following you on Twitter! Nice!

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New CBS poll shows that Clinton has a 10-point lead in NY (not a good sign for Clinton) [View all] CoffeeCat Apr 2016 OP

Only in a parallel universe could a ten point lead be a close race. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #1

I didn't realize Michican was considered a parallel universe. bobbobbins01 Apr 2016 #6

Maybe you should DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #10

I forgot that we're playing basketball too! bobbobbins01 Apr 2016 #13

What part of Michigan was an anomaly don't you understand? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #23

unlike basketball beedle Apr 2016 #48

I guess we will know on Tuesday. As far as the brave new world that awaits us. We heard it before. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #60

Well, if you want the Bible... highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #70

I have no problem with faith but even faith has to be tempered with reason. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #72

Bernie has consistently over performed the polling. morningfog Apr 2016 #119

Like the great southern state of Ohio DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #122

They are treating this election as a game northernsouthern Apr 2016 #32

The question is are the Poll's models up to date.. As a Clinton supporter you hope they are.. As berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #35

Actually there haven't been a lot of first time registrations redstateblues Apr 2016 #40

um, most people consider record breaking numbers significant restorefreedom Apr 2016 #56

#berniemath workinclasszero Apr 2016 #36

Since delegates are apportioned based on congressional districts a ... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #61

given he's made up eighty points in ten months and that he leads her in roguevalley Apr 2016 #76

The only question is the Margin Of Victory. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #99

Here... Check Out YouTube.... CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #120

The issue for Sander's is a tie won't cut it, and the win must be by a large still_one Apr 2016 #97

I admire your optimism but Bernie needs to win big in NY to have any chance. DCBob Apr 2016 #2

Throw in the fact there has been ZERO MOVEMENT in that poll in two weeks. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #5

Good point. The numbers are quite stable. DCBob Apr 2016 #11

As one would expect if it keeps counting the same thing. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #91

I would be more worried if she was 20, 30 points ahead CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #15

omg, so this is how you spin yet another contrived anti-Hillary screed. R B Garr Apr 2016 #62

Maybe you should switch to decaf CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #65

I've seen enough of your anti-Hillary screeds to recognize them for the phony outrage R B Garr Apr 2016 #68

As a neutral referee I must say you won this round easily./nt DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #101

Thank you, kind sir! Yesterday we tried to get in to see Hillary at the Los Angeles R B Garr Apr 2016 #118

Only in Bernie World is a 10 point lead for Clinton a bad sign for Clinton. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2016 #3

If she wins by only 10 or less, the Clinton camp will see it as a bad sign. Trust me. ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #4

Trust me, they won't see a win as a bad sign. Lil Missy Apr 2016 #7

You and I both know better ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #12

No. You're being silly. After NY there isn't enough room for Bernie to make up the gap. Zynx Apr 2016 #17

It gets worse... Corporate666 Apr 2016 #107

+1000...n/t Kang Colby Apr 2016 #112

Bernie Logic Lil Missy Apr 2016 #20

not according to the math. eom artyteacher Apr 2016 #8

For sure they would prefer a bigger win... DCBob Apr 2016 #9

She can't lose the nomination if she wins NY by 10 Zynx Apr 2016 #14

Clinton is very lucky it's a closed primary with harsh registration deadlines. The fewer left of Karmadillo Apr 2016 #16

This registered Democrat has been paying attention DeeDeeNY Apr 2016 #33

She's losing upstate, btw. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #18

I am also encouraged by how well Zephyr Teachout did in upstate NY CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #21

I agree about Teachout (I remember when she followed me on Twitter and I was floored! LOL) Fawke Em Apr 2016 #22

You're right about "fuzzy" CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #34

Is that the NBC The Wall Street Journal Marist Polll conducted April 10-13... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #25

I don't think the gun issue hurts Bernie upstate. Lots of hunters upstate. Punkingal Apr 2016 #42

A CBS News poll released 2 days before the Michigan primary had Hillary winning 55-44 BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #19

And the polls right before Ohio and Florida nailed it. Zynx Apr 2016 #26

Hogwash rock Apr 2016 #24

Most media sticking with 17 percent. (eom) HassleCat Apr 2016 #27

Throw in the fact Hillary's internals are tumbling, while Sanders internals are surging. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #28

And you know this how.... apcalc Apr 2016 #31

"internals" equals... workinclasszero Apr 2016 #41

Substantial lead apcalc Apr 2016 #29

If polls are correct, Sanders will do better than Obama in '08. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #30

Baghdad Bob is that you? Only 10 points? redstateblues Apr 2016 #37

Did you chirp the same before Michigan.. we have you on the run.. we may catch you, we may pass berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #57

Nope- the numbers were moving then-they aren't now redstateblues Apr 2016 #66

What as the margin of error!!! northernsouthern Apr 2016 #38

The previous CBS poll also had it 53-43. MadBadger Apr 2016 #39

You understand it: this shows the race is STABLE and that's great for Hillary. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #86

10% is not a narrow margin KingFlorez Apr 2016 #43

Look at the margin of error. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #54

We'll know the actual results from NY on Tuesday night or MineralMan Apr 2016 #44

Actually, with all the 'apparent' election fraud going on we may never know the actual results. cui bono Apr 2016 #71

That is just a crock. MineralMan Apr 2016 #113

How is being +10, in a race one is already leading, not a good sign? 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #45

Because corporations BeyondGeography Apr 2016 #73

and the oligarchs!!!!!!!!!!! 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #74

A noun, a verb and Wall St. BeyondGeography Apr 2016 #75

CBS polls were very accurate in Florida, Ohio and Illinois BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #46

Only in the parallel world of Sanders' supporters is a ten point lead "not a good thing". Beacool Apr 2016 #47

"Hillary will handily win NY." workinclasszero Apr 2016 #50

I understand his supporters hoping that he wins, but at some point people need to face reality. Beacool Apr 2016 #52

Well they think if Bernie is elected prez workinclasszero Apr 2016 #55

Apparently so......... Beacool Apr 2016 #58

Without having to fund or worry about those silly downticket Dems no less. Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #98

Do you know where there is a compilation of the primary votes that have already occurred PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #111

He's done, then. arely staircase Apr 2016 #49

Last CBS/You Gov Poll in WI kcjohn1 Apr 2016 #51

WI turnout was the biggest for primary elections since 1983... HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #64

I agree you can't make direct comparison kcjohn1 Apr 2016 #69

I have a feeling that an upset is coming... nt eastwestdem Apr 2016 #53

The trend's the significant thing, imo. elleng Apr 2016 #59

the numbers aren't trending. They haven't moved for two weeks redstateblues Apr 2016 #67

Seeing how Bernie's projected 43% is around 15 points less than his needed target Tarc Apr 2016 #63

Check your email, Bernie sent email: Gravis poll is within 6 points of Hillary. Dem2 Apr 2016 #77

Its 10 days old TMontoya Apr 2016 #78

Then why did he send me the email as if he just received this poll information? Dem2 Apr 2016 #79

Positive TMontoya Apr 2016 #81

Email says "Shock NY poll" Dem2 Apr 2016 #83

100% not a new poll. It was conducted for conservative site OAN by Gravis. Godhumor Apr 2016 #84

If it's not a new poll, it seems very deceptive to me Dem2 Apr 2016 #90

Here is the thread discussing it when it first came out Godhumor Apr 2016 #92

Thanks. Time stamp on email: Apr 17, 2016, at 5:46 PM Dem2 Apr 2016 #93

Yes, his campaign emailed a poll from 12 days ago Godhumor Apr 2016 #94

No doubt this is perhaps the most important primary to date Dem2 Apr 2016 #95

But it is not. Not at all. Nope. Not a new one. Nada Godhumor Apr 2016 #96

Yes, it was conducted the 5th and 6th Godhumor Apr 2016 #82

Because he wanted to mislead you. He's a politician. pnwmom Apr 2016 #87

I use Pollster.com Dem2 Apr 2016 #123

Was there also a donation request? Tanuki Apr 2016 #106

Just checked, yep Dem2 Apr 2016 #109

Remember Michigan... eom Purveyor Apr 2016 #80

Which means she is at EXACTLY the same number with this pollster that she was a week ago. pnwmom Apr 2016 #85

The spread is exactly the same as the last YouGov poll Godhumor Apr 2016 #88

Right. Neither the debate nor Pope-gate had any effect. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #89

Hillary is sinking like a stone. senz Apr 2016 #100

Yet she is handing Mr. Popularity his head. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #102

He came from far behind, won the last 7 primaries, & Hill is sinking so low senz Apr 2016 #103

She will win the nomination and the G.E, your protestations and demurrals notwithstanding. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #105

Not crying at all. Just watching her sink. senz Apr 2016 #108

May we DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #110

You seem to be confusing senz Apr 2016 #114

Thou deflect too much. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #115

Don't don't be trying to make me senz Apr 2016 #116

I will let you have the last word. I really don't dislike you./nt DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #117

The RCP Average is 12.5 RandySF Apr 2016 #104

The CBS Battleground Tracker had Hillary winning Michigan by 11% Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #121