2016 Postmortem

99Forever

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14. If the Democratic Party nominates Clinton...

Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:04 PM

Apr 2016

... it will find itself in the kind of shape the GOP is.

I and many millions like me, have had all we will tolerate from the lying fucking bastards.

The Revolution is on, join it or get run over by it.

Enough is enough.

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What does Bernie's race say to you about the Democratic Party? [View all] kentuck Apr 2016 OP

I've heard he prefers the New York Marathon. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #1

I think that the Democratic party is facing a choice between corporatism and populism Baobab Apr 2016 #7

I think it already made it's choice. And that ritual will be coming sooner than later if they Zira Apr 2016 #64

Agreed! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #76

NO NO NO! it is the tortoise and the hare! snooper2 Apr 2016 #106

it's in a weird position--dominant nationally but weak locally due to turnout patterns. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #2

Comparisons are apples and oranges Armstead Apr 2016 #13

that vein of discontent was there in 2004 and 2008 too geek tragedy Apr 2016 #17

I agree with that...the discontent has been cumulatively building Armstead Apr 2016 #20

Sorry, did you say something? daleanime Apr 2016 #51

I dunno about that. Weak locally in some areas of the country, but KPN Apr 2016 #53

After his stunt today he has to prove he's geek tragedy Apr 2016 #54

And what stunt would that be? KPN Apr 2016 #60

He accused the party of breaking federal campaign law. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #61

Well, did they? KPN Apr 2016 #62

No, they didn't. He made the accusation so they could use it to geek tragedy Apr 2016 #63

That poster likes to push buttons of Sanders supporters Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #87

If Hillary gets the nomination, I see the party imploding. djean111 Apr 2016 #3

Yep, my 40 year history as a Democrat and avid supporter of the Democratic party will end. Live and Learn Apr 2016 #31

You speak for me. 840high Apr 2016 #40

I'm trying to persuade myself that the lesser of two evils is a good choice lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #109

Yup. KPN Apr 2016 #55

I won't be there. I've been voting Dem since 1987. I will vote for anyone who has the highest number Zira Apr 2016 #57

I agree quantass Apr 2016 #59

Speaking truth my friend Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #77

The Times they are a-changing... k8conant Apr 2016 #4

and Hillary's standing in the doorway... Jack Bone Apr 2016 #11

It says that even a Non-Democrat has a chance to win a Democratic Primary thelordofhell Apr 2016 #5

Indeed! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #79

I think it means Democrats shouldn't try to be Republican-lite to get votes. Vinca Apr 2016 #6

The Third Way and Flint River water have similar properties...n/t tokenlib Apr 2016 #8

This!^^^^^^10000! 2banon Apr 2016 #41

It tells me that the Democrats do need to change. Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #9

I see the Democratic party having a lot fewer members after this go round. Punkingal Apr 2016 #10

Agreed. And too many struggling families are losing too much to keep ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #15

Is there a point were a political party has such low membership that they don't qualify? I think haikugal Apr 2016 #81

It is split wide open just like the R party. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #12

If the Democratic Party nominates Clinton... 99Forever Apr 2016 #14

It has a choice -- Be more like Bernie, or continue to slide into irrelevance Armstead Apr 2016 #16

The party as it is right now is heading over the cliff. IF jwirr Apr 2016 #18

Indeed. And the blindness about this in our party is startling. JudyM Apr 2016 #24

Yes, especially when so many of us are hurting because of it. jwirr Apr 2016 #74

It tells me the Democratic establishment needs to use every dirty trick, Maedhros Apr 2016 #19

I wonder if the supporters of Hillary see any need to change? kentuck Apr 2016 #21

Bruce Cockburn gives us the answer: Maedhros Apr 2016 #35

"The trouble with normal is it always gets worse".. 2banon Apr 2016 #44

Good Question firebrand80 Apr 2016 #22

You say that Cassiopeia Apr 2016 #49

near hopelessly corrupt ibegurpard Apr 2016 #23

That the DEM party is content with the same old BS. bigwillq Apr 2016 #25

It says to me that Bernie is not a Democrat. RandySF Apr 2016 #26

If you are the new face of the Democratic party then many of us are not Democrats. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #34

The party left the people decades ago, and the Clintons led that effort... polichick Apr 2016 #89

It tells me more dems should stick up for the working class. killbotfactory Apr 2016 #27

I think Corey Booker can run and win in 2020 or 2024. ecstatic Apr 2016 #28

I think if it does not change, a new party will start forming Marrah_G Apr 2016 #29

Bernie's race say to me that he is a white guy awake Apr 2016 #30

"when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. " uponit7771 Apr 2016 #33

And??? Do you realize your post has absolutely no meaning? nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #36

To people who have low comprehension? maybe... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #69

Maybe Bernie's compassion comes from have had family members who were in concentration camps awake Apr 2016 #38

Unnn, maybe fore the 80s yes.. after that it was guns and he hardly went into diverse neigborhoods uponit7771 Apr 2016 #70

"Sper predators", "bring to Heel". 840high Apr 2016 #43

Only stupid racist people think super predators describes black kids exclusively uponit7771 Apr 2016 #71

Like Hillary.. Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #82

Link and quote Hillary intimating super predator meant blacks? Again, only stupid racist dumb uponit7771 Apr 2016 #91

Dog whistles...super preditors, bring them to heel and pretzel logic..you're not uponanything. haikugal Apr 2016 #83

Only stupid racist people think super predators describes black kids exclusively uponit7771 Apr 2016 #92

Nope.... haikugal Apr 2016 #93

K, only stupid, racist, conservative minded and ignorant people think super predators describes uponit7771 Apr 2016 #96

In that context yes..however if you intended to indict those of us who pointed out Hillary's use haikugal Apr 2016 #98

The people I've read indict her never over the use of the phrase meaning black kids only... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #99

Hillary is no progressive. She pretends to be one but then she uses Kissinger as mentor...you haikugal Apr 2016 #100

Voting against the Brady Bill once = gun nut, 5 times = gumper so he's no progressive either... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #101

Ostrich 840high Apr 2016 #95

"when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. " uponit7771 Apr 2016 #97

Geez, you keep running with that tired bullshit. Welcome to ignore! BillZBubb Apr 2016 #80

And "jobs for low-income kids so that they�re not hanging out on street corners" grossproffit Apr 2016 #86

That the party is too nice to allow such an overt bull shit artist run under its banner, bout it uponit7771 Apr 2016 #32

And now you have gone to complete gibberish. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #37

Gibberish = 35 years in Washington isn't "establishment" uponit7771 Apr 2016 #39

Determined to prove my point I see. Live and Learn Apr 2016 #42

Nah, jus pointing out the Podium Bird Logic uponit7771 Apr 2016 #67

No. It's not. pangaia Apr 2016 #52

More podium bird logic, whatever it takes for you to sleep at night uponit7771 Apr 2016 #66

Bernie has spent those years fighting AGAINST what you call the establishment. pangaia Apr 2016 #72

like when he voted to dump toxins in a Hispanic community WhiteTara Apr 2016 #107

I am sure you know what White Tara is in Tibetan Buddhism. pangaia Apr 2016 #108

Word salad redstateblues Apr 2016 #47

Sanders = Full Of Shit.......That simple enough? uponit7771 Apr 2016 #68

That Obama Was Right hollowdweller Apr 2016 #45

I've always known both parties had drifted to the right, but Cassiopeia Apr 2016 #46

It tells me that 3rd way values aren't well liked in the party. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #48

The Democratic Party is split between traditional liberals and neo-liberals and PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #50

Hillary is NOT a strong candidate. THAT IS A LIE. Her numbers have been down hill Zira Apr 2016 #56

YES and YES. KPN Apr 2016 #58

I think it says that mainstream liberals tralala Apr 2016 #65

It says there's a lot of energy for leftism and progressivism forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #73

It says that the democratic part of "Democratic Party" is false advertising. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #75

If Clinton is the nominee I see MAJOR rules changes to prevent another "Sanders" NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #78

Both parties are on their way out - already more voters are independents... polichick Apr 2016 #84

Bernie's candidacy and the GOP lineup tell me the same things. Marr Apr 2016 #85

I think it says that the democratic party is not what I thought it was Victor_c3 Apr 2016 #88

It says to me the Third Way needs to form its' own party and get out of mine. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #90

Hear Hear! KPN Apr 2016 #102

To be honest, I view the party today as a non-racist Republican Party. mmonk Apr 2016 #94

Hillary is an excellent candidate. HassleCat Apr 2016 #103

Candidates should be treated equally thru primaries. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #104

Who knows. It should abandon years of its Reaganomic ways, but those people have money, power, and WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #105

Can't force to change it. This is probably the most undemocratic thing I've seen Joob Apr 2016 #110

It's a dead Party. ridgenvalley Apr 2016 #111