2016 Postmortem

Bjorn Against

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96. And people are more upset about the rules this year than ever before

Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:32 PM

Apr 2016

Just because the rules have been in place for a long time does not mean they are good rules, nor does it mean they can't get more unpopular over time.

My state has had caucuses for years with little complaint but this year people complained loudly and my state is considering eliminating caucuses now.

Just because a bad law has been in effect for a long time without much complaint does not mean you can ignore it when people do start to complain.

People are fed up with the system and they want change.

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Meet The People Barred From Voting In New York�s Presidential Primary [View all] dana_b Apr 2016 OP

They chose not to register as a Democrat in this state so that is their problem. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #1

same here in arizona. i'm on a DesertFlower Apr 2016 #6

So the kid who just turned 18 is just shit out of luck. This is so wrong! B Calm Apr 2016 #23

You vote in the election that happens after you turn 18. Of couse you have to register for a party upaloopa Apr 2016 #27

NY rules seem odd to me. You'd think you would be welcoming new democrats into B Calm Apr 2016 #29

not odd at all - register as a Dem - vote in the Dem primary DrDan Apr 2016 #88

New voter deadline was just recently- the six months is to change parties... bettyellen Apr 2016 #70

I wouldnt be surprised if a lot of them are ex-democrats or ex-republicans Baobab Apr 2016 #67

There aren't that many LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #86

And by shutting them out of the primary you are less likely to get their vote in the general Bjorn Against Apr 2016 #91

Both parties shut them out. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #93

So they are more likely to stay home Bjorn Against Apr 2016 #94

I think not. These rules have been in effect for decades. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #95

And people are more upset about the rules this year than ever before Bjorn Against Apr 2016 #96

They were just as pissed in 2008 and they still voted. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #97

Well if you keep pissing them off don't expect them to keep voting Democratic Bjorn Against Apr 2016 #98

They barred themselves! riversedge Apr 2016 #2

yup eom artyteacher Apr 2016 #52

Boo hoo for them TMontoya Apr 2016 #3

Barring them almost certainly reassures they'll never become democrats. B Calm Apr 2016 #31

Nothing like a free sample to drum up business Skink Apr 2016 #76

I Remember When the Democratic Party noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #4

in case you missed the memo these people COULD have registered and chose not to nt msongs Apr 2016 #5

I Didn't Miss A Thing noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #8

This is a primary not the general election. We will still go after the independents in the general. upaloopa Apr 2016 #28

Too Late noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #34

Our Party has left us TrueDemVA Apr 2016 #30

They don't lose their right to vote. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #87

I agree about registering, but TrueDemVA Apr 2016 #99

remember when one erred, they admitted it rather than become the victim? DrDan Apr 2016 #12

I hope you remember noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #35

because they were victimized by not registering per the rules? DrDan Apr 2016 #36

My Comments Are About noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #37

but my post, the one you responded to, and the OP both were in regard to registering in NY DrDan Apr 2016 #49

Tell that to the 18 yr old who was inspired by a candidate and just registered to vote B Calm Apr 2016 #39

then they probably registered as a Democrat, right? no problem DrDan Apr 2016 #48

No, you have to be registered months ahead. B Calm Apr 2016 #75

New registrations had to be done by March 18 (I think) sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #77

Link? B Calm Apr 2016 #78

I was wrong - it was March 25. sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #83

postmarked on the 25th DrDan Apr 2016 #82

wasn't kept a secret, right? DrDan Apr 2016 #79

+1 Zira Apr 2016 #25

Limiting Political Freedom is not a liberal idea, it's RW Authoritian. B Calm Apr 2016 #7

Forget it, they are lost in the winning, principles be damned. Remind you of anyone? JudyM Apr 2016 #14

Oh No! Democrats Are Going to Decide the Democratic Nominee Stallion Apr 2016 #9

Why does this BULLSHIT only ever come to light when it's too late to fix??? CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #10

the ACLU is helping people who actually ARE disenfranchised, not those who forget to register. bettyellen Apr 2016 #15

Back off, please. I don't have a registration problem, I'm speaking on behalf of others. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #17

the ACLUS prioritizes those who actually can't vote despite following the rules.... bettyellen Apr 2016 #21

Many New York DUers tried to bring this up last September/October Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #18

Favoritism and voter ratfucking in plain sight! CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #20

If you were not thinking of voting Republican- why is that a problem seeing Dems debate each other bettyellen Apr 2016 #22

the start of the debates generally wake up the electorate....to election time questionseverything Apr 2016 #54

I never gave open primaries a thought (never had them) and the first I heard of them was bettyellen Apr 2016 #55

if the requirement was 3 months before the election at least more people would realize questionseverything Apr 2016 #59

I wish we had uniform standards. It seems the GOP has been screwing with the bettyellen Apr 2016 #61

ny is controlled by democrats, right? so i don't think we can blame this on repubs this time questionseverything Apr 2016 #63

Party stuff is decided by the party.... And the problem is Dems and the GOP won't ever coordinate... bettyellen Apr 2016 #68

If they were bringing it up back in Sept/Oct LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #89

You do realize ... Trajan Apr 2016 #101

So Democats are choosing which Democrat represents them? Earth_First Apr 2016 #11

It doesn't help that the cutoff date to switch in NY was back in OCTOBER! TCJ70 Apr 2016 #13

honeslty- if someone didn't know last year whether they wanted to republican or dem president.... bettyellen Apr 2016 #16

"If someone didn't know last year whether they wanted a Republican or Dem president....", Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #41

Question Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #42

I don't know how soon anyone was approached... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #46

Sad to see so many supporting voter disinfranchisement. Lancero Apr 2016 #19

Get a valid id. Not hard to understand. Lancero Apr 2016 #50

I don't necessarily disagree with closed primaries firebrand80 Apr 2016 #24

The voting rules have been clear and known to both BS himself, his campaign and supporters for years factfinder_77 Apr 2016 #32

Glad you find Limiting Political Freedom as democratic, I don't! B Calm Apr 2016 #33

Strawman Dem2 Apr 2016 #43

Dems were darn glad when he always caucused with them amborin Apr 2016 #62

So the only choice is Republican or Republican light Skink Apr 2016 #84

Simple solution; register as a Democrat brooklynite Apr 2016 #38

Holding big rallies can be fun, but registering Democrats to vote is more effective Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #40

There's nothing nefarious or undemocratic about a closed primary. baldguy Apr 2016 #44

Have we reached the bargaining phase? nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #45

So many posters who oppose caucuses kiva Apr 2016 #47

Shame to see voter suppression lauded by a Democrat Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #51

Question: Does New York send out reminders to voters (via mail) 2banon Apr 2016 #53

the rules in ny give advantage to the never registered voter over the long time registered voter questionseverything Apr 2016 #56

Thit is sooo weird. 2banon Apr 2016 #73

Imagine that; having to be registered with a political party to choose that party's candidate Tarc Apr 2016 #58

what part of 'Democratic' primary don't they understand? bigtree Apr 2016 #60

Democrats voting for Democrats. Nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #64

Not very Democratic, we'll see how that works out for them Joob Apr 2016 #65

So, non-Democrats...nt SidDithers Apr 2016 #66

People who aren;t members of the parties can't vote in party primaries? Adrahil Apr 2016 #69

thankfully many states do not think as you do dana_b Apr 2016 #71

So, party's shouldn;t be able to select their own nominee? Adrahil Apr 2016 #72

I am glad NY is closed. riversedge Apr 2016 #74

Texas is utopia Skink Apr 2016 #85

So, now this is an issue? Onlooker Apr 2016 #80

Wow - Look at That! brooklynite Apr 2016 #81

I am in favor of closed primaries MichMan Apr 2016 #90

Bummer. They should have thought it thru and become informed. Rules. Those silly rules, I tell you seabeyond Apr 2016 #92

What if they all just wrote in Bernie's name in the GE. vintx Apr 2016 #100

Well now what do you think they'll do? n/t dana_b Apr 2016 #102