2016 Postmortem

PufPuf23

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76. Thank you. Note that I added an edit you may not have read

Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:38 PM

Apr 2016

after reading the thread and prior to reading your response to me.

The edit was what I would like to see.

From post #69:

Edit to add after reading thread:

My preference would be for closed primaries and no caucuses with each delegate able to vote their own conscious as of the second vote of the nominating convention should the initial vote not be a clear absolute majority (for example set some rule like a minimum of 53% of delegates selected by proportion in the state primaries). Rule should also be formulated and used such that the DNC and other Democratic Party structures provide a level playing field for all candidates. There should also be fixed and identical rules for voter registration with a flexible method and time (say within 30 days of election).

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The long-standing outrage about closed primaries [View all] NanceGreggs Apr 2016 OP

I was thinking this very thing, Nance mcar Apr 2016 #1

Interesting info, guys. Of course, we all know Hortensis Apr 2016 #19

Funny, that. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm... nt onehandle Apr 2016 #2

And caucuses apcalc Apr 2016 #3

Yep. So outraged, they forgot to check how they actually registered. Probably voted for Nader 2000. Hoyt Apr 2016 #4

It feels to me like us regular Democrats are now DURHAM D Apr 2016 #5

YES!!!!! Lol. Read the post right under you. Yes. I was thinking just that. seabeyond Apr 2016 #7

I think that is spot-on! DrDan Apr 2016 #17

Entitled snowflakes that do not believe they have to follow any rules, having a collective tantrum. seabeyond Apr 2016 #6

right? Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #75

Plus a freaking million. SO sick of these whining people and so ready for the primaries to be over Number23 Apr 2016 #94

the obvious...is so obvious Sheepshank Apr 2016 #8

What don't you understand? Independents are like ultra-super-delegates! randome Apr 2016 #9

not only that - we (Dems) should bend the rules for them, and of course, be aware and DrDan Apr 2016 #20

Careful-Walk Lightly or They'll Bolt to the Green Party!!!!!! Stallion Apr 2016 #45

or bolt directly to trump DrDan Apr 2016 #48

It Might Be Time for Special VIP Gift Bags to BEG Super Vote Sanders Supporters to Vote Democratic Stallion Apr 2016 #50

If they were as involved with politics as they say they are... HOW COULD THEY NOT ALREADY KNOW? NurseJackie Apr 2016 #10

But of course! ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #11

2.5 million more people SO FAR!!1! conspiring against Sanders than not conspiring against Sanders. Squinch Apr 2016 #27

It's a vast left wing conspiracy. George II Apr 2016 #47

Well they are so outraged now... sheshe2 Apr 2016 #12

Yeah, surprising that all of a sudden this is a major issue. I posted this a little while ago.... George II Apr 2016 #13

Did you check back around nineteen-68? Hortensis Apr 2016 #24

I don't recall any of the complaints I hear today back in those days either. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #36

Did you really look? Loudestlib Apr 2016 #14

Not seeing any outrage in there. But you knew that. Shocked that your post is dishonest. Squinch Apr 2016 #18

Of course you don't see what you don't want to. Loudestlib Apr 2016 #23

I don't think outrage means what you think it means. NH still has open primaries. Squinch Apr 2016 #25

It was outrage, the OP didn't research anything. Loudestlib Apr 2016 #31

Suuuuuure it was. Squinch Apr 2016 #35

That was a discussion about open/closed. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #21

I've been neck deep in the zero posts that blamed Kerry for Iraq in the 2004 campaign. Squinch Apr 2016 #15

This +1000! mcar Apr 2016 #51

Yep. But Sanders isn't responsible for casualties of the weapons systems HE voted for. Squinch Apr 2016 #60

They've become unpopular because the system has been corrupted. Of course you are ok with the rhett o rick Apr 2016 #16

... sheshe2 Apr 2016 #70

Roll your eyes. It will be the hubris that brings down the Fat Cats. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #72

? sheshe2 Apr 2016 #79

! Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #84

Bwahahahaha. Couch Cat! sheshe2 Apr 2016 #86

To my recollection.. Jack Bone Apr 2016 #22

Keep shitting on Independents, that will surely help Hillary win the GE!. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #26

This is shitting on Independents? Gracious! Independents must be very sensitive. And they Squinch Apr 2016 #29

Now you are sounding just like Republicans defending their trying to make it harder to vote. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #41

You sound like you don't understand the difference between "using your own free will to choose Squinch Apr 2016 #57

you mean like caucuses dsc Apr 2016 #74

Caucuses are a pain in the ass. okasha Apr 2016 #92

How long have you felt this way? NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #33

Since before I joined this site in 2005. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #39

You are basing that on what data? LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #40

maybe you can discuss your angst with a counselor ibegurpard Apr 2016 #28

Pointing out that people who are now outraged ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #43

Yes, I have been against some states' rules regarding closed primaries JimDandy Apr 2016 #30

Courts have also ruled parties Codeine Apr 2016 #59

IMO, caucuses should not exist and all primaries should be closed ones. Beacool Apr 2016 #32

I agree completely mcar Apr 2016 #54

Imagine not being a member of a club or church and expecting to have a say Beacool Apr 2016 #91

This. Precisely this. nt Codeine Apr 2016 #61

Outrage? That would be a straw man. dchill Apr 2016 #34

I want EVERYONE who is eligible to vote to be able to do so democrank Apr 2016 #37

So do I ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #46

Everyone who is eligible to vote in New York may do so Codeine Apr 2016 #62

All three of those ARE eligible to vote. It happens every November. George II Apr 2016 #78

Neither Obama or Clinton were drawing a sizable contingent of Paul supporters. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #38

This. The baggers. They do not get to decide our Democratic candidate. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #44

It's really not a hit. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #49

An outsider is complaining because he doesn't want to follow the rules. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #42

A wise woman named Peggysue says, "The hitchhiker is demanding the car keys." Squinch Apr 2016 #64

Absolutely! LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #71

My preference for BOTH parties is closed primaries DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #52

No such posts? hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #53

None of those links ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #67

That's just not true hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #81

Oh my! NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #82

I was thinking the same thing... chillfactor Apr 2016 #55

Lets just run a Democrat in the fall. Skink Apr 2016 #56

Didn't Obama supporters complain about it in 2008? democrattotheend Apr 2016 #58

I was a moderator through the 2008 primaries. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #63

This Sanders voter will give you a K&R. The misplaced blame and outrage HAS blm Apr 2016 #65

LOL - I give you a rec for the disease at the end OKNancy Apr 2016 #89

It's all about Bernie treestar Apr 2016 #66

I think they all should be closed MichMan Apr 2016 #68

The DNC never gamed the primary system to favor a specific candidate - Hillary Clinton - PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #69

I appreciate your well thought-out reply. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #73

Thank you. Note that I added an edit you may not have read PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #76

Wow! Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #77

I am glad to not be ignored. lol eom PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #80

Some people don't understand and complain about the rules right here on DU! William769 Apr 2016 #83

Hillary ate my registration!! LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #85

One reason for closed primaries-GOP voters- for example- Did Rush Limbaugh Tilt Result In Indiana? Gothmog Apr 2016 #87

That's okay... someday all 50 states will be progressive enough to allow same-day registration. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #88

With the current rules in some states where even republicans can crossover and vote in the Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #90

Enormous K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #93