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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: The long-standing outrage about closed primaries [View all]Gothmog
(174,465 posts)87. One reason for closed primaries-GOP voters- for example- Did Rush Limbaugh Tilt Result In Indiana?
Does anyone remember 2008 and Operation Chaos from Limbaugh? McCain wrapped up the GOP nomination very early and so GOP voters could vote in Democratic primaries that were open. Limbaugh pushed a project to try to hurt President Obama that he called "Operation Chaos" where GOP voters voted in the Democratic primary to try to keep the contest open for as long as possible. There is some evidence that this program may have worked in Indiana http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/07/AR2008050703932.html
Even as Barack Obama's campaign celebrated Tuesday's primary results, aides charged yesterday that they would have had an even stronger showing were it not for meddling by an unlikely booster of Hillary Rodham Clinton: the popular conservative radio host and longtime Clinton family nemesis Rush Limbaugh.
The impact of Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos" emerged as an intriguing point of debate, particularly in Indiana, where registered voters could participate in either party's primary, and where Clinton won by a mere 14,000 votes. As he had before several recent primaries, Limbaugh encouraged listeners to vote for Clinton to "bloody up Obama politically" and prolong the Democratic fight.
Limbaugh crowed about the success of his ploy all day Tuesday, featuring on-air testimonials from voters in Indiana and North Carolina who recounted their illicit pleasure in casting a vote for Clinton. "Some of the people show up and they ask for a Democrat ballot, and the poll worker says, 'Why, what are you going to do?' He says, 'Operation Chaos,' and they just laugh," Limbaugh said Tuesday.
But Limbaugh called off the operation yesterday, saying he wants Obama to be the party's pick, because "I now believe he would be the weakest of the Democrat nominees."
He added: "He can get effete snobs, he can get wealthy academics, he can get the young, and he can get the black vote, but Democrats do not win with that."
The impact of Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos" emerged as an intriguing point of debate, particularly in Indiana, where registered voters could participate in either party's primary, and where Clinton won by a mere 14,000 votes. As he had before several recent primaries, Limbaugh encouraged listeners to vote for Clinton to "bloody up Obama politically" and prolong the Democratic fight.
Limbaugh crowed about the success of his ploy all day Tuesday, featuring on-air testimonials from voters in Indiana and North Carolina who recounted their illicit pleasure in casting a vote for Clinton. "Some of the people show up and they ask for a Democrat ballot, and the poll worker says, 'Why, what are you going to do?' He says, 'Operation Chaos,' and they just laugh," Limbaugh said Tuesday.
But Limbaugh called off the operation yesterday, saying he wants Obama to be the party's pick, because "I now believe he would be the weakest of the Democrat nominees."
He added: "He can get effete snobs, he can get wealthy academics, he can get the young, and he can get the black vote, but Democrats do not win with that."
Democrats should get to pick the Democratic nominee
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Yep. So outraged, they forgot to check how they actually registered. Probably voted for Nader 2000.
Hoyt
Apr 2016
#4
Entitled snowflakes that do not believe they have to follow any rules, having a collective tantrum.
seabeyond
Apr 2016
#6
Plus a freaking million. SO sick of these whining people and so ready for the primaries to be over
Number23
Apr 2016
#94
not only that - we (Dems) should bend the rules for them, and of course, be aware and
DrDan
Apr 2016
#20
It Might Be Time for Special VIP Gift Bags to BEG Super Vote Sanders Supporters to Vote Democratic
Stallion
Apr 2016
#50
If they were as involved with politics as they say they are... HOW COULD THEY NOT ALREADY KNOW?
NurseJackie
Apr 2016
#10
2.5 million more people SO FAR!!1! conspiring against Sanders than not conspiring against Sanders.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#27
Yeah, surprising that all of a sudden this is a major issue. I posted this a little while ago....
George II
Apr 2016
#13
I don't recall any of the complaints I hear today back in those days either.
LiberalFighter
Apr 2016
#36
Not seeing any outrage in there. But you knew that. Shocked that your post is dishonest.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#18
I don't think outrage means what you think it means. NH still has open primaries.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#25
I've been neck deep in the zero posts that blamed Kerry for Iraq in the 2004 campaign.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#15
Yep. But Sanders isn't responsible for casualties of the weapons systems HE voted for.
Squinch
Apr 2016
#60
They've become unpopular because the system has been corrupted. Of course you are ok with the
rhett o rick
Apr 2016
#16
This is shitting on Independents? Gracious! Independents must be very sensitive. And they
Squinch
Apr 2016
#29
Now you are sounding just like Republicans defending their trying to make it harder to vote.
Odin2005
Apr 2016
#41
You sound like you don't understand the difference between "using your own free will to choose
Squinch
Apr 2016
#57
Neither Obama or Clinton were drawing a sizable contingent of Paul supporters.
NCTraveler
Apr 2016
#38
The DNC never gamed the primary system to favor a specific candidate - Hillary Clinton -
PufPuf23
Apr 2016
#69
One reason for closed primaries-GOP voters- for example- Did Rush Limbaugh Tilt Result In Indiana?
Gothmog
Apr 2016
#87
That's okay... someday all 50 states will be progressive enough to allow same-day registration.
cherokeeprogressive
Apr 2016
#88
With the current rules in some states where even republicans can crossover and vote in the
Thinkingabout
Apr 2016
#90