2016 Postmortem

Skwmom

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180. It wasn't Joe. It was one of the people on the show.

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Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:27 PM

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Morning Joe: Millennials will start to like Clinton in the general election. [View all] Skwmom Apr 2016 OP

So you think they will prefer Trump or Cruz? nt onehandle Apr 2016 #1

Trump, definitely. peacebird Apr 2016 #3

That makes no sense. They'd go from a man that condemns Islamophobia to one that embraces it? grossproffit Apr 2016 #7

No, some would go to Hillary, some would go to Jill Stein, some would stay home, and some would go Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #48

and some will leave prez blank and vote downticket floppyboo Apr 2016 #129

This is what I plan on doing. Nedsdag Apr 2016 #182

So Millennials are for Trump. onehandle Apr 2016 #8

No, but given the establishment Powers are against Trump, then in a Trump or Cruz world I can see peacebird Apr 2016 #15

Sanders: Clinton On Her Worst Day Is An 'Infinitely Better Candidate' Than Any GOPer oberliner Apr 2016 #28

I support Bernie, but respectfully disagree with him on that peacebird Apr 2016 #34

Do you think there is a GOPer who would make a better POTUS than Hillary? oberliner Apr 2016 #43

You do know it's not an "either/or" choice, right? Fawke Em Apr 2016 #50

The poster said they disagreed with Bernie's quote oberliner Apr 2016 #57

Except when you do that, you're handing your vote to the Republicans. LonePirate Apr 2016 #69

In discussing this with a few younger people... DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #97

We do care, it's just we don't see Clinton as much of a choice. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #137

Thank you! That is exactly how I feel. peacebird Apr 2016 #142

Amen to that farleftlib Apr 2016 #163

I think that is something we can agree on DrDan Apr 2016 #10

No, but they don't see a great deal of difference... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #11

Maybe not DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #17

yeah but if you are a white male then it really doesn't matter to you dsc Apr 2016 #24

Women are flocking to Bernie. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #51

Not black women oberliner Apr 2016 #60

Black people will vote dem in the GE XemaSab Apr 2016 #89

nice of you to take them for granted dsc Apr 2016 #103

Isnt that whats bejng done to millenials? Nt SwampG8r Apr 2016 #119

How many times have we seen LexVegas post VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #127

They're the most reliable dem voters XemaSab Apr 2016 #147

I'm of mixed race & find his comments repugnant... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #111

They may perfer not to vote... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #19

Bernie passionately urges young people to get out and vote oberliner Apr 2016 #44

Sanders' supporters agree with him about the status quo (undesirable and untenable) Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #88

Let's see what happens in New York oberliner Apr 2016 #123

Clinton didn't bow out until June last time. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #132

I don't think anyone should bow out until June this time either oberliner Apr 2016 #134

If she is our nominee, she will need to reach out unapatriciated Apr 2016 #96

A platform doesn't really guarantee anything... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #112

You are probably correct unapatriciated Apr 2016 #114

A platform is just words on a paper if you can't trust the nominee. Skwmom Apr 2016 #156

You see, that's the same BS-myopic-Wassermann R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #130

K&R, K&R, K&R, K&R, K&R Carolina Apr 2016 #154

^pretty much my sentiments, but I'm still hoping that through Sanders we can avoid that scenario Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #168

Imagine what the race would have been without all the favouritism? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #170

They'll prefer starting a new party. eom Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #25

Let's hope they figure out the registration deadlines first. Then they can R B Garr Apr 2016 #30

No need to figure that out unless the PTB unilaterally change registrations. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #54

I figured you would default to a bogus talking line. R B Garr Apr 2016 #59

For "navigate" read: "play ball with the 1 %, and be glad for scraps from the table" Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #68

More predictable conspiracy theories. R B Garr Apr 2016 #83

Oh right: all criticism is either sexist or racist or conspirational. Bey! Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #84

The conspiracy theories are perfectly self-serving, which is apparently the R B Garr Apr 2016 #86

"ridiculous"? the choice of words betrays a lack of argument. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #91

More bogus, made-up conspiracy theories. LOL at your shift to the "Saudis" R B Garr Apr 2016 #93

It's called a simile, or else an extended comparison Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #95

Thanks for doubling down on the conspiracy theory about how the Establishment R B Garr Apr 2016 #100

Your extreme hyperbolation of my response shows how little merit there is to your argument. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #167

Right, because conspiracy theories are obviously the way to go. Comparing 9/11 to R B Garr Apr 2016 #171

More twisting words and spin. I compared the purge to the 28 pages being hidden. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #174

Yeah, and all Camp Pinocchio has to offer are bogus accusations to R B Garr Apr 2016 #175

If you like twisting so much, there is a dance you should explore. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #179

This kind of works both ways. R B Garr Apr 2016 #181

Funny thing here betty SwampG8r Apr 2016 #116

Great response! Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #161

What about The Green Party? oberliner Apr 2016 #45

Yep. That's where I'm going after this because fuck the corporate pimping. nt VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #64

Yes and no: Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #66

Not voting at all seems antithetical to everything Bernie stands for oberliner Apr 2016 #71

Which part of "irregular voter" don't you get? They vote when they feel something good is on offer Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #81

I don't get the entire concept oberliner Apr 2016 #124

I'm sure that is what DINO-Debbie is hoping for. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #169

It might for those who see unapatriciated Apr 2016 #98

No, they will just lose interest... Human101948 Apr 2016 #32

correct franannjo Apr 2016 #141

they will prefer staying home or stein. nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #47

I think a lot of them will stay home. CrispyQ Apr 2016 #53

Which stage of grief is this? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #2

What a dumb provoocative post... Human101948 Apr 2016 #35

When in Rome... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #42

Have you looked at the rest of the polls at that link? oberliner Apr 2016 #46

On what basis? mmonk Apr 2016 #4

I added clarification above. Skwmom Apr 2016 #52

Lemme join the rumpus yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #5

Joe is expert at reading the minds of liberal millennials. merrily Apr 2016 #6

Well, I can say from my exposure to my students Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #9

Hillary selling out to Wall Street is not a RW smear... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #12

You had to get the talking point in, right? Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #14

All of those Clinton money transactions while business was before the state dept is just a right Skwmom Apr 2016 #16

That's already rolled out apcalc Apr 2016 #26

And Hillary supporters have no problem with ethics they would condemn in a Bush family candidate... Human101948 Apr 2016 #36

just think of all the death & destruction these two were involved in... Merryland Apr 2016 #126

LOL. That little blip on the radar. Skwmom Apr 2016 #136

Smear= facts artislife Apr 2016 #104

So that's how you dismiss uncomfortable truths. They're all "talking points" to you. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #165

What exactly did she sell? Her time? Her oratory skills? LonePirate Apr 2016 #76

A Clinton surrogate the other day was almost giddy about how Bernie had rounded up the millennials Skwmom Apr 2016 #13

The Millennials Will Remember How Their Votes Were Suppressed In The Primaries And.... global1 Apr 2016 #33

At my Part 2 of WA caucus yesterday artislife Apr 2016 #105

Your plan goes out da winder when Bernie wind NY Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #133

One - It's Not My Plan - It Is My Guess Of What Would Happen If Hillary Wins The Nomination..... global1 Apr 2016 #148

I haven't seen a single Millennial "warming up" to Hillary. merrily Apr 2016 #62

I'm glad to hear that they are frightened of Ted Cruz. StevieM Apr 2016 #135

Not really Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #162

"LIKE" Clinton? Ooh that's rich. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #18

Once they start bringing out all the women to discuss the role of Bill and Hillary I am sure those Skwmom Apr 2016 #21

The beatings will continue until morale improves. Karmadillo Apr 2016 #20

nope, they'll sit it the fuck out. nt retrowire Apr 2016 #22

No. I for one will never even trust her, let alone like her. eom Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #23

That's some funny shit right there!! 99Forever Apr 2016 #27

Not the millennials at my house. djean111 Apr 2016 #29

I agree... Human101948 Apr 2016 #38

Hillary and Bernie agree on 90 percent of issues oberliner Apr 2016 #31

Like I am going to learn to love war and fracking and the TPP? Oh, please. I will not. djean111 Apr 2016 #63

Have you heard the GOP platform lately? oberliner Apr 2016 #74

If you trust Hillary on all of those issues, I fear you are sadly mistaken. djean111 Apr 2016 #78

She is on the opposite side of the Republicans on all of those issues oberliner Apr 2016 #121

We must process things very differently - I feel she is the same as the GOP in many positions. djean111 Apr 2016 #125

Bernie has more insights into this than either of us oberliner Apr 2016 #128

They do not agree on war and fracking and the TPP and college costs and health care. djean111 Apr 2016 #131

Have you heard the Green party platform lately? artislife Apr 2016 #106

I understand why people would vote for the Green Party oberliner Apr 2016 #122

Maybe, but if elected Cassiopeia Apr 2016 #67

Not true oberliner Apr 2016 #77

In that situation I would only trust her to not appoint Cassiopeia Apr 2016 #87

We have a Dem in the White House now artislife Apr 2016 #107

He is the reason we have a Justice Sotomayor and a Justice Kagan oberliner Apr 2016 #120

Yes he is . artislife Apr 2016 #144

It would be pretty unprecedented for them to not vote for the next 4 years oberliner Apr 2016 #146

It is a whole new world artislife Apr 2016 #150

They are not even close. n/t Skwmom Apr 2016 #158

"on 90 percent of the issues, Sanders and Clinton are on the same page." oberliner Apr 2016 #160

Millenials are mostly Independants. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #37

I think it's funny you believe a Third Way corporatist platform outweighs Obama in attracting them. LonePirate Apr 2016 #82

A great many Obama voters expected him to be not quite so corporatist. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #92

I can't trust anyone's word if they think the term "Third Way" resonates with most Millennials. LonePirate Apr 2016 #94

Yes, most millenials don't know what Third Way is.... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #110

Most Independents are more moderate than core Sanders supporters. hack89 Apr 2016 #113

Independant moderates are a myth. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #115

But most independents actually have a party preference hack89 Apr 2016 #118

Most Independants are NPA. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #145

BWAHAHAH FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #39

I heard lots of conversations while waiting in line to get into Hillary's Los Angeles R B Garr Apr 2016 #40

Trumps ahead in the popular vote Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #183

lol, Clinton leads all in the popular vote. She's about 1 MILLION over Trump. R B Garr Apr 2016 #185

So what Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #186

No, I got your point, which is to denigrate Hillary R B Garr Apr 2016 #188

That is beyond insulting ky_dem Apr 2016 #187

Awww. Some millennials haven't fallen in line for Bernie. R B Garr Apr 2016 #190

You absolutely did insult us ky_dem Apr 2016 #193

"Not every millennial is......" R B Garr Apr 2016 #194

Not bloody likely. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #41

"They'd have to lobotomize my ass"? Zorro Apr 2016 #70

Have you never heard someone speak AAVE before VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #72

I have no idea what AAVE is Zorro Apr 2016 #75

you realize linguistic prescriptivism is a form of classism and racism ky_dem Apr 2016 #189

No I didn't realize that Zorro Apr 2016 #195

Wait just a doggone minute. . . .think this through . . . . . pdsimdars Apr 2016 #49

Otherwise, the only question is how low will they go. Skwmom Apr 2016 #56

I don't think so! Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #55

Bush's and Clinton's have been running things for most of their lives Cassiopeia Apr 2016 #58

Millenials jmousso75 Apr 2016 #61

Will boomers? k8conant Apr 2016 #65

This Boomer will not. War, fracking, the TPP. Nope. djean111 Apr 2016 #80

+two boomers polichick Apr 2016 #102

I'm seeing some desperate Hillary supporters wanting Phlem Apr 2016 #73

Yeah, not this millennial. I don't trust corrupt politicians or liars. nt RepubliCON-Watch Apr 2016 #79

Their arrogance is unending... Skwmom Apr 2016 #90

So apparently in addition to not doing research, millennials have bad memories BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #85

Not. Going. To. Happen! onecaliberal Apr 2016 #99

No they won't, sorry. Ain't never gonna happen. Avalux Apr 2016 #101

Only if they are able to disregard the damage done to their noses. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #108

At this point in CA we are getting many millennials to register to vote!! HughLefty1 Apr 2016 #109

Yeeeah -- nope. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #117

What's really going to be interesting, is if they are still going to call us sexist Joob Apr 2016 #138

Why on earth would Millennials learn to like her? Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #139

Millennials will never support Hillary pinebox Apr 2016 #140

Not the two that I raised. kcass1954 Apr 2016 #143

Hillary's only hope is if we hold our noses as we approach the voting booth and chant Vinca Apr 2016 #149

Just as soon as hell freezes. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #151

I've got two voting millennials in my family ridgenvalley Apr 2016 #152

Wishful thinking Carolina Apr 2016 #153

Whatever happens, come the general election... malokvale77 Apr 2016 #155

That Joe is a funny guy. bigwillq Apr 2016 #157

I agree with this. When I started the school year in Sept, almost everyone was pro-Sanders, now... anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #159

Somethings are just too obvious. Skwmom Apr 2016 #164

You need to demand a tuition refund. N/t azmom Apr 2016 #166

None that I know of. They really do not like war and fracking and the TPP, ya know. djean111 Apr 2016 #177

I doubt that Marrah_G Apr 2016 #172

They wont like her MadBadger Apr 2016 #173

Exactly RandySF Apr 2016 #176

Joe is politically bipolar. He rails on Hillary for email scandal and for stealing elections CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #178

It wasn't Joe. It was one of the people on the show. Skwmom Apr 2016 #180

Hillary is an introvert, and introverts take a while to get to know. Once people BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #184

I think most Millennials will sit at home if there is not a candidate who excites them ky_dem Apr 2016 #191

That's what her campaign is banking on Matariki Apr 2016 #192