2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: I wish I could have some compassion for [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)Plenty of posters have tried in vein to explain this. It doesn't mean our rationale is right, but it must be willful ignorance on your part if you don't at least address the reasons we put forward, and instead go with this bullshit straw-man.
Here's a very simplistic version for you. Bear in mind, this is based on my version of the state of things, not necessarily the state of things.
I want what's best for this nation. Damn straight that's not Trump. He's a fucking embarrassment. But I am tired of being tacked over to the slow lane and lulled to sleep by democrats, who from my perspective, are working for the same interests the republicans are working for, and driving us down the same road. Its just a lot more elegant when they do it. They're taking money from the same people the Republicans do, so that they can be viable candidates in our ridiculously expensive election process. By necessity, their interests are the interests of the corporate elite, or else they wouldn't have gotten so far(unless they are off in some corner like Vermont) and even if they would like to do some good, the price for it is always too damn high.
This election cycle in particular, has been very enlightening to me as to what "insider" really means. It means to me, good intentions or not, that no good will ever be done under these conditions. What will be done is we will continue to fight over solutions for the symptoms while the real illnesses go unchecked, and sadly, I've come to the conclusion that that's the way both parties like it.
I think a Trump presidency would be humiliating, and his candidacy alone is making the looneys come out of the woodwork. But in my opinoion, he's only in a position to become president because Republican's and Democrats alike have continued to foster a war around wedge issues and not the bigger picture items that make people more susceptible to fear and tribalism. That means he's not going to be the last.
I don't want to "serve anybody right" by not voting for his opponent. The funny thing is though, I'd be more likely to vote for Hillary over Ted Cruz or Kasitch, because in the case of insider vs insider, I'll go with the lesser of two evils, even if it continues to validate the DNC system of disenfranchising liberal voters. Trump though, is such a bumbling fool, with likeables in the toilet. He's no Hitler or Stalin. He's a lightening rod for righteous fury and action because he isn't tactful, and he isn't smart. The backlash to a Trump Presidency is likely to be monumental, and nobody, republican and democrat alike are going to work with him. Am I willing to bet the next 4 years on that(assuming he wouldn't get impeached first), I ... doubt it. It scares the hell out of me. But so does our current and continued trajectory as a nation, irrespective of the party at the wheel.
So please, by all means, talk about how we're conspiracy theorists, or naive to the complicated issues that make tweaks to the status quo the far better option to political revolution, but the next time you characterize our reasons for considering passing on the GE Presidential ticket as vindictiveness and nothing more, well know that you would be lying.