2016 Postmortem

griffi94

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164. You seem to struggle with logic and reason

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:03 AM

Apr 2016

I never said anything about a secret cache of voters.
Hillary will carry Democrats and liberals and moderates. She'll even carry right of center
Indies and Republicans.

Those voters aren't secret. The tent will get bigger.
Most of Bernie supporters will vote for her. Exit polls yesterday showed only 13%
of Bernie voters wouldn't support Hillary.
Not 13% of all voters. 13% of the small minority that voted for Bernie.

Hillary got more total votes yesterday than all the Republican combined.

Of course there will be some perpetually disgruntled Bernie or Bust people.

They won't be missed.
Average Americans rejected Bernie decisively.

Bernie lost.

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I wish I could have some compassion for [View all] boston bean Apr 2016 OP

Rec. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #1

I am a fan of no politician nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #2

Sorry your candidate lost tonight. zappaman Apr 2016 #56

Clinton supporters- and that includes me, assuming she's the nominee- should really be prepared to Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #96

I think Sanders had the right message, but was the wrong guy. zappaman Apr 2016 #99

Our party- nationally- needs to expand its bench beyond east coast baby boomers. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #100

She hasn't won a single state west of the Mississippi yet. Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #106

You do know littlebit Apr 2016 #107

I read this post three minutes ago and I'm still laughing Number23 Apr 2016 #112

You are very welcome littlebit Apr 2016 #116

+1 Agschmid Apr 2016 #126

Ohio??? GoldenThunder Apr 2016 #139

Consider deleting this post leftynyc Apr 2016 #119

Nevada. Agschmid Apr 2016 #123

Texas. Agschmid Apr 2016 #124

Whoops :) Agschmid Apr 2016 #125

Ohio isn't west of the Mississippi.... GoldenThunder Apr 2016 #135

Whoops... Well good thing those other states are. Agschmid Apr 2016 #138

Late night last night littlebit Apr 2016 #140

They don't teach geography anymore, do they? nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #137

That mixed with the constant threats to not vote and hopes that Trump wins. nt. Trenzalore Apr 2016 #3

I do not know anyone here who would like to see Trump win. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #13

What does Bernie or Bust mean then? Sheepshank Apr 2016 #27

I don't think it means that. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #37

Then you don't understand what "or bust" means. baldguy Apr 2016 #136

That's how I take it, too. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #53

What it means is... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #80

In other words I was right...Bernie or Republican. You made it clear Sheepshank Apr 2016 #85

You are wrong - as you are wrong about many things. Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #92

why do you need to take it that way? JCanete Apr 2016 #88

Well thanks for arriving at DU just in time to tell me what you think I've missed the last 6 months Sheepshank Apr 2016 #90

I'm not new to DU. Been mostly a lurker since 2004. And I spend a lot of time reading here. JCanete Apr 2016 #94

Read Sheepshank's transparency tab angrychair Apr 2016 #98

WOW GoldenThunder Apr 2016 #115

welcome to DU! renate Apr 2016 #93

There are three reasons I support Sanders: TCJ70 Apr 2016 #162

People need to link to the posts that clearly state that they hope Trump wins or STFU about it. notadmblnd Apr 2016 #83

I haven't seen anyone state they hope Trump wins, they just DON'T CARE what happens to seaglass Apr 2016 #159

Boo Hoo! Chasstev365 Apr 2016 #4

It is a contact sport griffi94 Apr 2016 #34

So why do the poster whine about Bernie being mean? Chasstev365 Apr 2016 #39

Bernies supporters griffi94 Apr 2016 #44

LOL! Chasstev365 Apr 2016 #46

That's the spirit! Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #5

Don't hold your breath. Indydem Apr 2016 #6

And they will continue to pound that message in SM artislife Apr 2016 #18

See this crap is exactly... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #84

Shorter... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #7

No where nearly as mean and nasty as Hillary 08 or 16. morningfog Apr 2016 #8

PREACH! JaneyVee Apr 2016 #9

You can't even win nice SHRED Apr 2016 #10

I've held my tongue until the last nail was driven in. boston bean Apr 2016 #15

Maybe you could point to where I'm off here? SHRED Apr 2016 #24

Search GDP and see if you can come up with something that matches my description. boston bean Apr 2016 #36

I see vitriol... SHRED Apr 2016 #54

Look in the mirror. pangaia Apr 2016 #58

Yep. No surprise there, though, eh?! JudyM Apr 2016 #87

that's one of the things that's got me depressed tonight renate Apr 2016 #114

Right-wing revenge is so sweet. Broward Apr 2016 #11

The Vermont Bonecrusher got crushed Zorro Apr 2016 #12

Exactly...so many have been vile and despicable, and now that they are clearly going to lose alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #14

Most won't play that game. artislife Apr 2016 #20

That's up to each voter griffi94 Apr 2016 #50

Where are these two for one specials at now? What have they been waiting for? TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #95

Here's how it'll go griffi94 Apr 2016 #121

So, no two for one voters...just talk of kitchen tables and swing sta with no thought to beat CHURN. TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #122

I'm sorry your guy lost griffi94 Apr 2016 #132

You don't have any secret cache of voters. If a significant number stop playing you are hosed TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #161

You seem to struggle with logic and reason griffi94 Apr 2016 #164

Thanks for summing that up. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #16

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #78

I wish I had more tolerance for Hillary supporters frustrated_lefty Apr 2016 #17

We don't expect any from you, BB. Bonobo Apr 2016 #19

Jeff Weaver just said it's not over until he says it's over! Dem2 Apr 2016 #21

It's over no matter what he says tonight. It's done. It is over. boston bean Apr 2016 #23

He seems to be a psycho Dem2 Apr 2016 #30

He seems unbalanced to me as well. boston bean Apr 2016 #31

Glad it's not just me Dem2 Apr 2016 #42

Weaver's charter is to wreak as much damage as possible upon the Democratic Party. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #49

He's contemplating unemployment. okasha Apr 2016 #65

Where does this lie keep coming from? Kentonio Apr 2016 #109

They're talking NY itself Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #131

Likewise in South Carolina, okasha Apr 2016 #183

If you want to broad brush all of us based on internet trolls, thats your problem. phleshdef Apr 2016 #22

Yep. I've never been so glad to see certain folks not get what they wanted. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #25

Not Rupert Murdoch. Octafish Apr 2016 #160

I'll feel the same way 11/9/16 TSIAS Apr 2016 #168

Bookmarking. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #170

Seriously? You couldn't post your Bernie bashing in the Hillary group? FourScore Apr 2016 #26

I really don't at this point. Sorry, but one reaps what they sow. boston bean Apr 2016 #28

You can read all my posts. I never bash. FourScore Apr 2016 #43

At this point I don't give a crap. If someone wants to withhold their vote in the general boston bean Apr 2016 #48

Spoken like a true Hillary supporter. Congratulations on your "win"! n/t FourScore Apr 2016 #51

What do I owe these people. They treat Hillary supporters like shit, then boston bean Apr 2016 #55

Your weak candidate couldn't even win the support of a majority Kentonio Apr 2016 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Amimnoch Apr 2016 #120

Yes, because having more support on DU is much stronger JTFrog Apr 2016 #143

Few things are more telling than the support of a highly politically involved group of Democrats. Kentonio Apr 2016 #158

You might have a point if the system in place here didn't give power to the trolls, JTFrog Apr 2016 #165

That's very much in the eye of the beholder though. Kentonio Apr 2016 #167

We'll hold you to that. JimDandy Apr 2016 #103

Kick & very highly recommended! William769 Apr 2016 #29

According to Jeff Weaver they intend to keep COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #32

And beyond... SHRED Apr 2016 #33

I laid off 'em right after Super Tuesday. They took kindness oasis Apr 2016 #35

True. Gracious in victory got us 4 more weeks of abuse. Fuck that shit! boston bean Apr 2016 #38

true n/t Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #45

You have NOT seen the end of it... cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #40

Jane Goodall? Are you freakin' kidding me? Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #41

Jane Goodall is not a Hillary supporter CrawlingChaos Apr 2016 #111

She just had her pic taken with Hillary and posted it on Facebook. boston bean Apr 2016 #133

Reality is unimportant. Anyone even slightly suspected of not hating Hillary, betsuni Apr 2016 #155

I've never seen anything like it. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #47

K&R Gothmog Apr 2016 #52

No you don't melman Apr 2016 #57

A mere hiccup ladyfinger Apr 2016 #59

Well said. It's been sickening. R B Garr Apr 2016 #60

You haven't won a damn thing. If Hillary wins we all lose. Live and Learn Apr 2016 #61

Psycho .99center Apr 2016 #62

I wish you could see the America we could have... PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #63

Substitite blacks or gays or women for "Bernie supporters" and think about Blue Meany Apr 2016 #64

Small numbers of people on both sides have been rude. DemocraticWing Apr 2016 #66

That's seriously selective. JCanete Apr 2016 #67

I don't participate in this forum, but you won the jury. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #68

The only lies have come from the Hillary camp. Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #69

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #70

The op had it right Sheepshank Apr 2016 #72

..... rbrnmw Apr 2016 #86

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #89

I have seen Hillary be called every name in the book on a supposedly Democratic board. Beacool Apr 2016 #71

Sanders is talking about voter irregularities in VT, he's on scorched Earth roll right now uponit7771 Apr 2016 #73

I completely agree. The bridges have burned and the ship has sailed. betsuni Apr 2016 #74

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #75

Haha I BET you "wish" you could! I get it, actslikeacarrot Apr 2016 #76

There is no difference between Rude HILLARY Supporters... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #77

That's fine. Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #79

Leave us alone. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #81

Truth!! nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #82

Well that says a lot about you. Rex Apr 2016 #91

My support for Hillary has called my progressive credentials into question. boston bean Apr 2016 #141

Yes that is true, people have gone way too far dissing HRC. Rex Apr 2016 #181

Well aren't you special! AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #97

Projection: It's not just for movie theaters anymore. nt villager Apr 2016 #101

Don't cry for us just yet. It's not over, and I think you'll find many of us in it till Bernie says highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #102

If the OP has written any comments that were well-meaning or even fair senz Apr 2016 #104

Were you here for previous campaigns? killbotfactory Apr 2016 #105

After being alert stalked and harassed this past weekend nolawarlock Apr 2016 #108

Plus a fucking million. Hard to tell which was more delightful. The trolling, the racism, the Number23 Apr 2016 #113

And they cry, wide-eyed and innocent: "I've never seen anything like that betsuni Apr 2016 #117

And plus a million for your post as well! nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #142

So true! boston bean Apr 2016 #146

A few things have really bothered me about Bernie's supporters, PBass Apr 2016 #118

Sometimes the truth hurts. B Calm Apr 2016 #127

This message was self-deleted by its author My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #128

Funny, I was just thinking that since it appears Hillary will require our votes to win the general Vinca Apr 2016 #129

Like how the Sanders people were so nice after winning Wisconsin? brooklynite Apr 2016 #147

So you don't want us to vote for Hillary? Vinca Apr 2016 #148

Trump v Hillary, who you gonna vote for? boston bean Apr 2016 #150

I've said time and time again I'll vote for her if she's the nominee. Vinca Apr 2016 #151

Good to hear you will vote for her. boston bean Apr 2016 #152

I happen to agree with you, but acceptance is another matter. Vinca Apr 2016 #156

Your beliefs are best represented by Hillary Clinton at this time. boston bean Apr 2016 #157

Not necessary to have compassion for Bernie supporters. AirmensMom Apr 2016 #130

+1 In_The_Wind Apr 2016 #144

Clinton supporters work to build bridges; Sanders supporters burn them. baldguy Apr 2016 #134

I'd like to quote Susan Sarandon's words to Hillary supporters ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #145

There is no path to the nomination for Sanders Gothmog Apr 2016 #149

Just want to add that what goes round comes round. MoonRiver Apr 2016 #153

"It's working, sir. They're all at each other's throats." Buns_of_Fire Apr 2016 #154

Most of them are good, decent folks... Blue_Tires Apr 2016 #163

I have said many times that I will vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination democrattotheend Apr 2016 #166

Blame your friends. This isn't happening in a vacuum. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #184

Now THATS the way to romance Bernie supporters over to Hillary for the GE. bvar22 Apr 2016 #169

you may be overthinking things. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #171

Thats your diagnosis Dr. Montague?? LOL boston bean Apr 2016 #172

You start an OP in GDP imagining that everyone needs to know how you feel about this stuff Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #173

Yeah, you are. boston bean Apr 2016 #174

I have my flaws, to be sure, but one thing I'm good at, I'm usually pretty insightful. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #175

I've always counted on my intution and ability to judge character as well. boston bean Apr 2016 #176

Then you should know by now that the minute we actually have a nominee Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #177

Did I ever state something different? boston bean Apr 2016 #178

For someone who doesn't care what Sanders supporters think, you seem to spend a lot of time thinking Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #179

If you read the OP, it was my opinion and believe me it didn't take much boston bean Apr 2016 #180

I believe you. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #182