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jwirr

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72. Indeed IF this country were still a democracy instead of
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:10 AM
Apr 2016

an oligarchy you might be right. But since it is an oligarchy exactly what is the point of voting at all?

I realized just how little my vote meant and what it means for me as a delegate to the convention when I read "How Hillary Clinton Bought the Loyalty of 33 State Democratic Parties" and it was confirmed by the NY election. Exactly why does a rigged election need voters?

I watched our propaganda agencies tell us how elections in the USSR were so unfair because everyone was forced to vote for one person. Really? But it is worse here now. We put on a show of having a fair election while the establishment steps in by endorsing their choice long before the voters get any kind of choice. The media does not give equal coverage to candidates and we use buzz words to imply both dog whistles and false superiority.

So can you tell us what the benefit of voting is in a rigged election?

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It ain't over till it's over Merryland Apr 2016 #1
Your A game. Orsino Apr 2016 #7
Had I known it would come to this, I would have gone to convention instead of vacation. silvershadow Apr 2016 #126
Backwardsbernie is right. He still has his day job in the senate. dubyadiprecession Apr 2016 #128
I am sure they want nothing from you. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #2
Wow talk about entitled griffi94 Apr 2016 #18
Wow talk about entitled Gwhittey Apr 2016 #36
Thanks for commenting griffi94 Apr 2016 #47
Wow a HRC poster postining "wow talk about entitled" northernsouthern Apr 2016 #44
So voting my own interest is griffi94 Apr 2016 #56
Wow, just tons of wow! northernsouthern Apr 2016 #78
I'm sorry you're angry griffi94 Apr 2016 #86
Actually very true. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #97
You're welcome griffi94 Apr 2016 #98
I always liked him more than Hillary. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #100
I didn't like him in 2008 griffi94 Apr 2016 #102
Yeah GW had issues. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #106
She's not my ideal candidate griffi94 Apr 2016 #110
That is a southern thing. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #111
I didn't vote for fear griffi94 Apr 2016 #114
Not correct. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #116
I think I wasn't clear then on my not voting fear griffi94 Apr 2016 #117
Yeah I was... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #118
There is something to be said for asking for everything up front griffi94 Apr 2016 #120
Yeah. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #122
There isn't as much enthusiasm as there was in 08 griffi94 Apr 2016 #123
The sad thing is there is northernsouthern Apr 2016 #124
Democratic turnout has been down over all from 08 griffi94 Apr 2016 #125
Please clarify what you mean by "issues of the majority." LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #69
I am sure what they mean... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #79
Well that's as you see it griffi94 Apr 2016 #84
"Little to no empathy for the issues they are dealing with" auntpurl Apr 2016 #35
Good for you. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #48
If Bernie or his supporters didn't like the rules for the primaries and Gman Apr 2016 #39
"rigged" Adrahil Apr 2016 #87
At this point we want nothing from you. You have crossed the Rubicon. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #3
I thought you were a brit... whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #4
I live in the UK. I'm American. I'm from PA. auntpurl Apr 2016 #6
And the relevance of where that poster lives is what? MineralMan Apr 2016 #52
I didn't know she was an expat whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #57
No, I surmised it after opening the poster's profile. MineralMan Apr 2016 #62
Honesty about how corrupt the process has been this cycle. 248k voters purged in Brooklyn alone peacebird Apr 2016 #5
Voter disenfranchisement IS bad. auntpurl Apr 2016 #9
They would know because... egalitegirl Apr 2016 #14
Ok, that's reasonable I guess, but... auntpurl Apr 2016 #17
Not according to the insvestigation by Anonymous. In Arizona it was over ten X Bernie supporters peacebird Apr 2016 #21
I don't think you're right at all about Arizona brush Apr 2016 #46
So wait ... you ask what Bernie people want, you get an answer that is impartial ... KPN Apr 2016 #25
Not at all. auntpurl Apr 2016 #29
Are you joking? KPN Apr 2016 #38
No. auntpurl Apr 2016 #42
Really??? What you said seems realtively non-sensical. KPN Apr 2016 #55
That's okay. Sanders couldn't think of anything, either. randome Apr 2016 #105
That's a good start. KPN Apr 2016 #22
It's POSTURING. It is performance art, to show each other just "How Pure I Can Be" in a public forum IamMab Apr 2016 #8
Exactly. Pure vanity. "Look at me! I'm pure!" And ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #12
Feel better now NurseJane? KPN Apr 2016 #26
Bullshit. I have control of my vote. And that's how it is for everyone. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #28
Join us in opposing candidates of Wall Street, neocons and Military Industrial Complex egalitegirl Apr 2016 #10
Oh dear! Yeah... that's going to sway voters. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #19
More information RandySF Apr 2016 #31
Trust me, Democrats have gone to war and Kissinger did certify Hillary egalitegirl Apr 2016 #65
For Hillary to quit... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #11
We want nothing pinebox Apr 2016 #13
Yeah that's why her Senate voting record was 93% the same as Sanders mythology Apr 2016 #41
That's why she voted with Republicans a lot of the time pinebox Apr 2016 #50
It is where the votes DIFFER that counts - like, for example, the IRAQ War. djean111 Apr 2016 #59
The other 7% included Wall Street welfare and vote for wars egalitegirl Apr 2016 #68
I don't want anything from Hillary supporters or anyone else. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #15
To not ever say y'all support the troops again. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #16
Well said. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #20
Link? KPN Apr 2016 #27
It's the last tiny bit of power they THINK they have. MoonRiver Apr 2016 #32
+1 NCTraveler Apr 2016 #43
Thanks! MoonRiver Apr 2016 #63
Nothing, actually. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #23
Oh bullshit farleftlib Apr 2016 #24
I don't see RandySF Apr 2016 #30
Nothing. djean111 Apr 2016 #33
Why do Berners keep posting that they'll never vote for Hillary? KPN Apr 2016 #34
Well, that was a nice try. all american girl Apr 2016 #37
It's a mystery. auntpurl Apr 2016 #51
Last week we were on spring break holiday all american girl Apr 2016 #64
I feel you! musicblind Apr 2016 #92
No, they want a nominee who espouses their values. LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #88
OK all american girl Apr 2016 #91
K&R hamsterjill Apr 2016 #40
Why should it be about you? polichick Apr 2016 #45
About me personally? It's not, obviously. auntpurl Apr 2016 #49
It's not about HRC supporters at all - imo you are blind followers... polichick Apr 2016 #54
Nothing asked, nothing given. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #53
Ask Hillary the questions we want answered randr Apr 2016 #58
This is a good response. auntpurl Apr 2016 #66
I want to believe her yet randr Apr 2016 #70
In my opinion auntpurl Apr 2016 #75
Bernie has proven the you can run without PAC money randr Apr 2016 #82
He's proven you can RUN without PAC money, but auntpurl Apr 2016 #89
This is true randr Apr 2016 #90
For sure. Politics ain't softball in this country. auntpurl Apr 2016 #93
You are welcome randr Apr 2016 #95
I thought it was "nice guys finish last?" n/t musicblind Apr 2016 #94
Stop paddling the damn boat in the wrong direction and trying to meet the insane people TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #60
I don't know - why do Hillary supporters do post after Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #61
Oh, well, I haven't done any of that. auntpurl Apr 2016 #71
She has nothing to offer us. She says she is against the jwirr Apr 2016 #99
You have a funny way of posting... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #134
Stop demonizing liberal goals would be a healthy start Armstead Apr 2016 #67
Indeed IF this country were still a democracy instead of jwirr Apr 2016 #72
What do I personally want? Marrah_G Apr 2016 #73
Thank you for your reply. auntpurl Apr 2016 #80
This is a really good reply. n/t musicblind Apr 2016 #96
Excellent reply! Owl Apr 2016 #115
This election is about more than Bernie, it's about the continual erosion to the right of the party EndElectoral Apr 2016 #74
To realize how fast and loose you're playing with the country's future Schema Thing Apr 2016 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Apr 2016 #77
I don't want anything from supporters of the establishment. NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #81
No clue why you think I want anything from you. merrily Apr 2016 #83
Nothing. SamKnause Apr 2016 #85
Nothing. The bridges have been burned. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #101
They want us to beg them on hands and knees, kiss their asses and tell them how stupid we are. PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #103
"Validate me." --- "Make me feel like I have control." --- "Hug me please." NurseJackie Apr 2016 #119
I want nothing from supporters. Loudestlib Apr 2016 #104
I doubt that Bernie people post with Clinton people in mind very much. Waiting For Everyman Apr 2016 #107
Come to your senses and switch to Bernie so we can actually win the GE pdsimdars Apr 2016 #108
I am not telling a Hillary supporter what to do and I expect to be left to my own decisions as well. TumbleAndJumble Apr 2016 #109
Just not to be blamed when she loses in November. eom TransitJohn Apr 2016 #112
Nothing! B Calm Apr 2016 #113
Great post nolawarlock Apr 2016 #121
Wait! Hillary has a message? Could have fooled me? glowing Apr 2016 #127
The posts that make me laugh the most lovemydog Apr 2016 #129
Want? RobertEarl Apr 2016 #130
You were heartbroken to have to vote for the more progressive Democrat in the GE? aikoaiko Apr 2016 #131
This isn't a purity contest. And Hillary is just as progressive as Obama anyway. BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #132
Yeah, right, just as progressive. I don't recall Obama voting for the Iraq War,. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #133
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