2016 Postmortem

BainsBane

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109. That's right. The majority matters

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:13 AM

Apr 2016

Being white and male make your vote more valuable than anyone else anymore.

He hasn't been making gains. He lost African American 25-75; he got about 36% of the Latino vote. If that's an inroad, it's not anywhere near enough to pull off a victory. Clinton got 50% of the white vote. She also got 50% of the male vote, but in each of those categories is included the votes of people you think less important. The votes of the majority matter, not just white men. America is a diverse nation, and voters do not want to turn the clock back to when white men alone were able to determine political leaders.

Thank you for expressing honestly what this election is truly about.

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Without Women and Minority Support, Hillary Would Be Losing Badly To Bernie [View all] TomCADem Apr 2016 OP

Good Lord alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #1

No kidding. Without woman and "minorities"? Hortensis Apr 2016 #65

Read between the lines Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #88

Sanders wins the "hard working voters". KittyWampus Apr 2016 #99

If it wasn't for THEM Bernie would have an YUGE lead. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #162

This is some sharp snark nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #2

+1 Haveadream Apr 2016 #37

This post basically says "Without the DEMOCRATIC BASE, Hillary would be losing." Number23 Apr 2016 #47

Whoda thought winning over the two biggest components of our party coalition would be important? Recursion Apr 2016 #3

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #5

They never did get it. The Dem party is made up of Latino Americans, . . . brush Apr 2016 #13

As a White man I am part of a minority of my demographic in voting for Hillary in the primary Arneoker Apr 2016 #63

And kudos to you, Arneoker. I am proud to walk with progressive whites who understand . . . brush Apr 2016 #79

"when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. " uponit7771 Apr 2016 #4

There it is. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #6

yup obamanut2012 Apr 2016 #64

For real, right? Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #81

Only the two basic building blocks of our party, but what the hell, right? nt Codeine Apr 2016 #7

LA Times - "Latinos and women are blunting Trump and Sanders in California's primaries" TomCADem Apr 2016 #16

So what's your point? spooky3 Apr 2016 #29

The point is pretty obvious. Sanders will lose Cali just as he lost New York. brush Apr 2016 #83

I'm guessing you are just now realizing you don't drive the Dem party bus any more? bettyellen Apr 2016 #42

I will say it for at least the fourth time today, this primary has been DAMNED illuminating Number23 Apr 2016 #49

Hilarious when you consider what has been hurled at many of us here. stevenleser Apr 2016 #84

Catholics, you forgot them too. They went Hillary 60-40. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #100

Old. The old people too. Old as in over 50. It appears only white, men 18-35 matter. Interesting. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #141

I for one am glad to see someone finally admit BainsBane Apr 2016 #111

Yeah, and if women didn't the vote, Bernie would be a shoe-in. pnwmom Apr 2016 #76

Those pesky women. LisaM Apr 2016 #8

In 2004 I remember reading at FR that women's right to vote should be repealed...sheesh Sheepshank Apr 2016 #25

not really those 90% + white states bernie swept had few voters or delegates. his best demographic msongs Apr 2016 #9

Bernie just does not have... FarPoint Apr 2016 #10

So now it's not just Southern voters who don't count. athena Apr 2016 #11

only Bernie's vote counts ericson00 Apr 2016 #14

Nor voters in Ohio, VA, and Massachusetts spooky3 Apr 2016 #31

or NY La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #39

Or Illinois or Nevada. Zynx Apr 2016 #137

"If you don't count the black vote, McCain won." OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #12

Pretty much what we're seeing here. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #32

been here 27 days and know all about SS do ya, now. cool beans. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #144

Actually, no. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #146

lol. so true. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #33

.. Cha Apr 2016 #54

Lol! +1000 nolawarlock Apr 2016 #55

Hi Cha! OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #116

+1! sheshe2 Apr 2016 #130

I'm riding the 6 train straight to Mississippi! Squinch Apr 2016 #153

Ha! Soon CT, RI, and PA will join NY NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #163

Wake up white Dem men- we are the reliable party base, not you! bettyellen Apr 2016 #15

Some of us know it and appreciate it. Codeine Apr 2016 #19

Thank you! Snarking on Planned Parenthood being "establishment" got on my last nerve! bettyellen Apr 2016 #40

Me too, Betty all american girl Apr 2016 #97

to me it said that SBS was unaware or uncaring enough of the recent attacks on Planned bettyellen Apr 2016 #123

Yeah, and i is concerning. Something so basic and he turned on them because he felt dissed all american girl Apr 2016 #125

To dismiss and ignore her excellent record fight for women - or worse, pretend it is no more than bettyellen Apr 2016 #129

Yes. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #127

our issues are also more important than yours and we are smarter La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #20

Can you fucking believe this? I wish it was a parody OP..... but I think it is an honest anguished bettyellen Apr 2016 #41

Actually more insidious. GulfCoast66 Apr 2016 #169

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #43

You have nothing to say about this horrid racist and sexist OP- and you want to judge me? FUCK NO. bettyellen Apr 2016 #44

He agrees with it and has been preaching it since becoming a Du member. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #128

WTF? (nt) Recursion Apr 2016 #46

Yes, if two major blocks of the democratic base didn't count Bernie would be winning tammywammy Apr 2016 #17

without women and minority voters, the democrat party would lose EVERY SINGLE TIME La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #18

Women, huh. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #21

"Dramatic gains" maybe but, too little, too late oasis Apr 2016 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #23

Without Votes TMontoya Apr 2016 #24

Now, that's the Democratic Party. :) Thank you, us! Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #26

You say that like it was a bad thing? Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #27

I think they only want straight white cis guys to vote. For bigger paychecks and weed and bettyellen Apr 2016 #45

Oh well! Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #68

Straight white cis guys under 35 okasha Apr 2016 #174

Wow sexist and racist in one post dbackjon Apr 2016 #28

Seems DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #30

"Without Women and Minority Support, Hillary Would Be Losing Badly To Bernie" workinclasszero Apr 2016 #34

Snap! Haveadream Apr 2016 #35

Lol. One of my childhood classics. nt ecstatic Apr 2016 #36

Me too! She's got it going on! nt SunSeeker Apr 2016 #172

Oh wow man. ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #38

I thought it was The Onion. I was wrong. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #48

Can't make this up ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #89

It must be all the Stockholm Syndrome in the Democratic Party Base. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #91

Ummm those are very important groups. Marrah_G Apr 2016 #50

Without corporate M$M ridiculing Bernie and ignoring him for the better part of the campaign, and peacebird Apr 2016 #51

No comment on the inherent sexism and racism of the OP- wishing for a white male party? bettyellen Apr 2016 #52

And of course without women and minority voters too, right? brush Apr 2016 #85

I am a 59 yo woman, solid D voter for 41 years. I *should* be Hills perfect demographic peacebird Apr 2016 #92

Women voted overwhelmingly for Clinton. brush Apr 2016 #98

You do understand statistics is about probabilities and samples and populations, right? spooky3 Apr 2016 #142

Did you vote for Kerry? Squinch Apr 2016 #154

LOL forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #53

Oh hey! Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #66

Trump has not just moved the needle of racism and sexism ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #56

How are you not leftynyc Apr 2016 #57

Yes. I like your critique � short and sweet, blunt and to the point. brush Apr 2016 #87

Uh...yeah. auntpurl Apr 2016 #58

Did you post this seriously? etherealtruth Apr 2016 #59

I think this is snark nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #168

Get it all out now firebrand80 Apr 2016 #60

so exactly who do you think should be selecting our candidate? DrDan Apr 2016 #61

Without women and minorities 04alsabi Apr 2016 #62

lolololololololol obamanut2012 Apr 2016 #67

Is this satire? Adrahil Apr 2016 #69

That's what I'm wondering too. gollygee Apr 2016 #71

You wouldn't think so.... Adrahil Apr 2016 #72

I'm hoping so? DeadLetterOffice Apr 2016 #155

Without most of the electorate, he'd win? gollygee Apr 2016 #70

I kept looking for the sarcasm smilie, but he appears to be serious. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #74

You're kidding, right? Women are the majority in this country, and minority voters are a huge pnwmom Apr 2016 #73

The Sanders campaign in a nutshell. yardwork Apr 2016 #75

Exactly. BainsBane Apr 2016 #113

RIGHT?? auntpurl Apr 2016 #121

Just to think, the two groups which received the right to vote is Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #77

Change "received" to "had to fight and shed blood for" ... Hekate Apr 2016 #167

Here's a radical idea; perhaps women + minorities are becoming the party base Tarc Apr 2016 #78

By gosh, with only white men.... Sanders would kick ass. Am I right? Lol seabeyond Apr 2016 #80

If the only people allowed to vote were white males then Bernie would win in a landslide oberliner Apr 2016 #82

And then get annihilated by the Republican. forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #120

Exactly right oberliner Apr 2016 #148

YEAH! WHO LET US UPPITY WOMEN AND MINORITIES VOTE ANYWAY?!? WTF? PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #86

And are you wearing shoes? You'd better not be wearing shoes goddammit! Orrex Apr 2016 #118

Oh, this shit again? Blue_Tires Apr 2016 #90

What the fuck is this shit right here? Brickbat Apr 2016 #93

Your guess is as good as mine. auntpurl Apr 2016 #122

bernie has most the women when you add indies in the general. again, she will lose. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #94

... mcar Apr 2016 #95

Moved right up to NY. How did that go? Nt NCTraveler Apr 2016 #96

Well.... CherokeeDem Apr 2016 #101

Yeah just think Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #102

Yep, if people didn't vote vote her rock Apr 2016 #103

So what you're saying is jcgoldie Apr 2016 #104

I voted for Sanders in the Illinois Primary last month. Ace Rothstein Apr 2016 #105

Thank you- I only see a few Sander supporters on this thread- but am grateful for them all. bettyellen Apr 2016 #124

I think that's more like below and beyond, okasha Apr 2016 #175

Without the support of white males, Sanders would be........ nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #106

Oy. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #107

We are members of the Democratic Party and not the former South African National Party DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #108

That's right. The majority matters BainsBane Apr 2016 #109

A disturbing number of white men are operating under the delusion that *they* are the majority YoungDemCA Apr 2016 #115

I truly wish you would come back to this thread and explain your comment ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #110

Dude, OP is a Clinton supporter trying to stir shit. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #126

Evidence? A quick look at his posting history ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #132

I looked their post history and recs but came to the opposite conclusion Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #140

Okay. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #145

Without women and minorities, the GOP would control every seat in America. BainsBane Apr 2016 #112

IOW, without a solid majority of Democratic primary voters, Hillary would be losing badly to Bernie YoungDemCA Apr 2016 #114

62% of white men voted for Romney in 2012 YoungDemCA Apr 2016 #117

Without the support of the majority of voters, then, MineralMan Apr 2016 #119

Dear Goddess! sheshe2 Apr 2016 #131

Ha! Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #133

Without minority support the last Democrat to be elected president was Lyndon Johnson. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #134

Sorry folks gotta go get back in my kitchen rbrnmw Apr 2016 #135

So, without a majority of the electorate she's in trouble. Zynx Apr 2016 #136

Without creative voter suppression she wouldn't be winning either. nt NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #138

Bullshit. False, baseless smear. seabeyond Apr 2016 #143

Without vote-suppressing caucuses he'd be back in Vermont. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #160

Yo, TomCADem- "With Every Wish..." DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #139

Geez Tom, you really stepped in it. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #147

Oh dear God, I can't believe I am seeing this on DU liberal N proud Apr 2016 #149

Where's the love? K&R! fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #150

Why? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #152

Absolutely. fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #156

TomCADem, You won the freaking internets for me and Al today. fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #151

+1 SunSeeker Apr 2016 #173

White males? If everyone was a white male Sanders would be winning? Gman Apr 2016 #157

To be honest, white males were already taken by the Republican Party AZ Progressive Apr 2016 #158

You know what- Sunsky Apr 2016 #159

I voted for Bernie in my state's primary but WTF?? thucythucy Apr 2016 #161

Without the very young and Independents, Sanders would be losing badly to Hillary. Beacool Apr 2016 #164

This is satire, isn't it? Hekate Apr 2016 #165

LOL, I got banned from the Bernie forum for making the same point mwrguy Apr 2016 #166

LOL SunSeeker Apr 2016 #170

Those heifers! grossproffit Apr 2016 #171

The Ron Paul Democrats have spoken......again thelordofhell Apr 2016 #176

Lol without the democratic base rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #177

And without women and minority voters, the Tea-publicans would have a permanent lock. Vogon_Glory Apr 2016 #178