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thesquanderer

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79. That chart doesn't prove what people think it proves.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:28 AM
Apr 2016

The chart compares "percent of statements that were true or false"... but that is entirely meaningless once you think about exactly what statements they are using to measure that.

In reality, the percentages don't matter, because the percentage figure only tells you what percentage of potentially questionable statements were true or false. Things that are clearly true do not have to be analyzed and rated. So if you make fewer questionable statements to begin with--i.e. the vast majority of them are considered true right off the bat, without controversy--then the "percent of lies" figure ends up being way off because the unquestionably true statements aren't counted in the percentage at all!

So all that matters is the absolute number. If you go to PoltiFact and look at the absolute numbers, you'll see that Hillary has given FAR more false statements than Bernie has.

I wish Politifact would clear that up. Their charts are wrongly used to "prove" this honesty point all the time.

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I think Bernie supporters have to look beyond the issues to find reasons to vote for Hillary. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #80
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I'm sorry I don't have a link lovemydog Apr 2016 #47
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Here's a link. lovemydog Apr 2016 #63
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I provided a good link lovemydog Apr 2016 #67
That chart doesn't prove what people think it proves. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #79
It's true that Hillary has made more statements over a longer period of time on PF Dem2 Apr 2016 #91
You're missing the point, the percentages are skewed. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #95
Controversial statements are looked at, yes. Dem2 Apr 2016 #96
Thanks. lovemydog Apr 2016 #46
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This is peoples opinions about Clinton... Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #71
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