2016 Postmortem

TheKentuckian

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79. I so laughed my ass off, that 14 buck bologna sandwich is classic!

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Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:22 AM

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Clinton can likely win the WH regardless of Sanders supporters. But after January 2017.... [View all] Armstead Apr 2016 OP

She never had grass roots support. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #1

She has some -- let's be honest Armstead Apr 2016 #3

She has real grass-roots support from women and feminists. Orsino Apr 2016 #43

Qualify feminist to a particular generation nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #51

I'm a fan of Sanders' feminism... Orsino Apr 2016 #53

Like Thatcher completely eradicated misogyny in the UK artislife Apr 2016 #134

I'm afraid of exactly that. Orsino Apr 2016 #136

One woman is different from another just as one man is different from another. If Cal33 Apr 2016 #146

Hell, yeah. Orsino Apr 2016 #147

Undeservedly so pottedplant Apr 2016 #77

I agree with what you say and on abortion especially passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #112

In my eyes HRC is no.... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #127

A very tarnished symbol 2banon Apr 2016 #95

Agreed Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #128

There is little doubt angrychair Apr 2016 #106

Sorry, I would like the first woman president to be someone I can be proud of. Skwmom Apr 2016 #110

I feel you. Orsino Apr 2016 #114

The women politicians are just as corrupt as the men. Skwmom Apr 2016 #115

In general. Clinton is especially so, and Sanders especially not. n/t Orsino Apr 2016 #118

Her only use for grassroots is to mow them down on Election Day. After that, Roundup and pavement. leveymg Apr 2016 #103

She has proven that she can be dragged, slowly, toward progressivism. Orsino Apr 2016 #119

^^This right here^^ farleftlib Apr 2016 #120

What terrifies me about her getting in. PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #121

I think any Clinton supporter who says she has nothing to learn from Sanders geek tragedy Apr 2016 #2

Did Sanders concede? merrily Apr 2016 #4

No, although some seem eager to push that idea. n/t winter is coming Apr 2016 #7

One is always likely to encounter "shepherds" along the journey FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #38

Ha! haikugal Apr 2016 #60

Hillary winning the GE is not a sure bet. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #5

Trump, I don't think so....Kaisich might clean her clock if he got the nom Armstead Apr 2016 #6

I think Kaisich would definitely clean her clock. Punkingal Apr 2016 #12

Really? Kasich in real time against Hillary or Bernie is a dem win floppyboo Apr 2016 #27

Bernie would beat him...she won't. Punkingal Apr 2016 #29

Bernie certainly has the edge - over ALL of the republicans! floppyboo Apr 2016 #32

I wish I could believe that about Kaisich, but I think he can fool people. Punkingal Apr 2016 #54

Hillary's not exactly Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #90

Oh my unicorn Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #130

Trump actually has several big advantages. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #15

....! KoKo Apr 2016 #41

And I see just the opposite happening passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #55

You see the independents swinging to her? Or just the Democrats falling in line? BillZBubb Apr 2016 #59

Pretty much Just the dems. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #63

There is very little time artislife Apr 2016 #139

Not just or even mainly her BUT she and her husband are the pol ringleaders of the Turd Way movement TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #109

agreed! eom passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #111

You wrote previously that he will have no support among Latino voters oberliner Apr 2016 #87

He will have slightly under the usual republican level of support from Hispanics. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #98

Romney won the independent vote against Obama oberliner Apr 2016 #99

I explained why Trumps negatives will come down in the GE campaign. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #101

What about the revolutionaries? redstateblues Apr 2016 #129

We won't be voting for your Dinos. nt artislife Apr 2016 #140

Yep she'll put those nails in the coffin personally notadmblnd Apr 2016 #8

I am sure Nostradamus said something about artislife Apr 2016 #141

An agenda requires a Congress to pass legislation and a Supreme Court to protect it. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #9

She won't win the GE. Punkingal Apr 2016 #13

She will win the GE, handily. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #16

I don't think so....her negatives are too high. Punkingal Apr 2016 #40

Yep. The only candidate she can beat is Cruz, and only LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #36

Thanks for your post. I don't say they will beat her because I want them to. Punkingal Apr 2016 #39

Regardless of the composition of Congress....She is going to need more popular support than she has Armstead Apr 2016 #17

In the General election against any possible Republican opponent, she will have it. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #20

You are missing my point Armstead Apr 2016 #23

In the General against a Republican Opponent, Republicans will lose. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #25

She will put a reliable corporatist on SCOTUS, someone like Roberts farleftlib Apr 2016 #122

No, she will appoint someone like Ginsburg, who was appointed by her hustband. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #123

No, she will not. farleftlib Apr 2016 #124

LOL. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #125

I agree totally that she needs to somehow integrate what Sanders represents. DCBob Apr 2016 #10

I can assure you, this Sanders person and former Clinton supporter in 08 will not Autumn Apr 2016 #85

So there is literally nothing she can say or do to get your support in the general election? oberliner Apr 2016 #88

To get my support? You are absolutely right, there is nothing she can do or say Autumn Apr 2016 #91

No doubt Hillary and Bill have already discussed the importance of oasis Apr 2016 #11

If you believe that, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #19

Don't expect any giant smorgasbord giveaway programs if that's your desire. oasis Apr 2016 #33

That's a depressing prospect Armstead Apr 2016 #46

You think that economics is just about give away programs? What simplistic hogwash. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #50

Oh, Hillary would continue giant corporate welfare programs k8conant Apr 2016 #56

Hill and Bill Clinton believe in prosperity for all Americans. oasis Apr 2016 #58

Really? You buy that? Why do you think so? haikugal Apr 2016 #61

I was fortunate enough to experience the Clinton prosperity of the 90's. oasis Apr 2016 #65

It was built on a bubble. It wasn't real. haikugal Apr 2016 #67

The checks we cashed WERE real. Clinton got results. nt oasis Apr 2016 #69

No he didn't. He's the film flam man...sorry to say we were taken for a ride and our jobs and haikugal Apr 2016 #71

Clinton delivered. "Film flam" is promising pie in the sky. oasis Apr 2016 #73

The unemployment checks we cashed Mnpaul Apr 2016 #94

22+ million jobs sprang from Clinton's eight years in office. Many oasis Apr 2016 #96

Mostly due to the internet - not Clinton Mnpaul Apr 2016 #97

The problem as I see it is that she can and will say anything. peace13 Apr 2016 #34

They are polar opposites. You are mistaken... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #132

Your optimism is lovely artislife Apr 2016 #142

Maybe you should do yourself a favor and develop some oasis Apr 2016 #154

Neither. artislife Apr 2016 #157

Seriously? Have you looked at history. Democratic Presidents lose midterms and control of congress Skwmom Apr 2016 #14

^^^This. artislife Apr 2016 #143

After she puts choice and SS on the table farleftlib Apr 2016 #18

That's my point.... Armstead Apr 2016 #21

Sorry farleftlib Apr 2016 #22

They probably don't care dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #30

Unfortunately you're probably correct...I've seen this movie too many times Armstead Apr 2016 #44

tep. These old movies are really stale. bbgrunt Apr 2016 #78

Dreaming. . . . pdsimdars Apr 2016 #24

great, i'll plan my vacation. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #26

yep!! oldandhappy Apr 2016 #28

She will never have passionate MuseRider Apr 2016 #31

She has more baggage than the Duggar family on a world cruise. LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #37

Well that is a good way to put it! MuseRider Apr 2016 #105

Bernie is absolutely correct that the movement will have jwirr Apr 2016 #35

.......! KoKo Apr 2016 #42

Only if we have the will to say no and can make pols more afraid of us than of crossing the Clintons TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #45

Good article about The Democratic Stockholm Syndrome 2cannan Apr 2016 #47

A little O/T, but I liked the side story about the Bernie Burger. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2016 #57

I so laughed my ass off, that 14 buck bologna sandwich is classic! TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #79

OMG Thank you so much for that link Autumn Apr 2016 #89

I saved that one MuseRider Apr 2016 #108

Thanks for posting that TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #80

Agreed. jwirr Apr 2016 #48

The spineless democrats are worse for the people than the raging religious GOP. haikugal Apr 2016 #66

ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY! haikugal Apr 2016 #64

Amazing how much faith you have in the GOP. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #49

No he'd face the same realities....But he'd fight back for real stuff Armstead Apr 2016 #52

Me thinks thou hopes too much. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #62

This is a bit early, but sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #68

Sadly... this ^^^^ libdem4life Apr 2016 #82

This is silly. The way to get things done is to get Congress people to support them with you. Squinch Apr 2016 #70

Clinton would not inspire that "elect Democrats to office" Armstead Apr 2016 #72

They never HAVE worked with Sanders. Why do you think they would start now? Squinch Apr 2016 #74

You're flat out wriong that they have never worked with Sanders Armstead Apr 2016 #75

It hardly matters now, but you are wrong. He has a very poor history of working with others to Squinch Apr 2016 #76

Translation: Won't colborate on warmongering, padding the pockets of the wealthy, looting the TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #81

Speaking of symbolic gestures, Hillary proposed the Flag Protection Act of 2005 Fumesucker Apr 2016 #83

You know NOTHING of Bernie's accomplishments. senz Apr 2016 #86

If millennials don't let us down again, she'll do okay Onlooker Apr 2016 #84

POTUS Obama jettisoned the millenials and liberals after the 2008 election PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #131

She can't win without Bernie's supporters and she knows it. Why she talks about 'unity' AFTER sabrina 1 Apr 2016 #92

Clinton and the neo-liberal Democratic leadership don't want the liberals and millenials PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #133

Sadly, nolawarlock Apr 2016 #93

The kind of corporatist, war-waging government Clinton would be ought to be gridlocked. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #100

Not possible. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #102

Gridlock will continue in Congress either way. The Republicans hate Socialists. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #104

She won't win. My opinion. closeupready Apr 2016 #107

Guess what? The Democratic Party has actually been strengthened this primary season! randome Apr 2016 #113

and I read many posts from Hillary supporters over the last few days that say we B Calm Apr 2016 #126

How does this help your cause or any of the things important to you? NurseJackie Apr 2016 #116

You are one of the folks that put a flawed individuals personal ambition over the good of a majority PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #135

The contest played out and Bernie wasn't chosen. Find a better candidate next time ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #137

I expect to vote for Clinton save for a miracle but PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #145

Don't know, don't care PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #117

No one has ever won with her negative numbers, ever. The uniting is not enough. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #138

Support is needed beyond just Hillary Clinton. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #144

Real policies and honest intentions are needed to generate that support Armstead Apr 2016 #149

I hope she does. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #148

I am so sick of this nonsense Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #150

Too much work, man. Corporatocracy. Authoritarians. Establishment. Oligarchy. Clinton. randome Apr 2016 #153

Thanks Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #158

Why is the "base" the ones who supported the losing candidate? treestar Apr 2016 #151

I believe she will pick My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #152

And then all the "Not Hillary" posters will have something to complain about for 8 years... SidDithers Apr 2016 #155

The GOP will regroup and come back with a renewed and unprecedented vengeance the moment azurnoir Apr 2016 #156