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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Another Double Standard (But This One Doesn't Matter Now) [View all]pat_k
(9,313 posts)50. Hillary supporters support the New, New Deal!
If Bernie were the nominee, there would be no reason to start offering watered down versions of his proposals.
Every Hillary supporter I've talked to ("in real life" would love to see the major parts of Sanders New, New Deal enacted. I've never heard any of them say "his proposals are bad." The do say one or more of the following:
1. Some form of the "can't win, so don't fight," "it's unrealistic," "she's pragmatic" memes.
2. Some form of the "unelectable" meme: "He'll never be elected," "they'll crush him with the socialist/communist label."
3.We could never afford to enact the proposals (which is really another form of "it's unrealistic."
4. His supporters are obnoxious.
If Hillary changed her tune, offerred bolder proposals, called on people to elect leaders to congress who can help make it happen, and presented the "real math" demonstrating WE CAN absolutely afford these bolder proposals, she wouldn't lose anybody, and she's gain lots of people.
On the other hand, if Bernie were the nominee, and abandoned his platform, he lose people big time.
Every Hillary supporter I've talked to ("in real life" would love to see the major parts of Sanders New, New Deal enacted. I've never heard any of them say "his proposals are bad." The do say one or more of the following:
1. Some form of the "can't win, so don't fight," "it's unrealistic," "she's pragmatic" memes.
2. Some form of the "unelectable" meme: "He'll never be elected," "they'll crush him with the socialist/communist label."
3.We could never afford to enact the proposals (which is really another form of "it's unrealistic."
4. His supporters are obnoxious.
If Hillary changed her tune, offerred bolder proposals, called on people to elect leaders to congress who can help make it happen, and presented the "real math" demonstrating WE CAN absolutely afford these bolder proposals, she wouldn't lose anybody, and she's gain lots of people.
On the other hand, if Bernie were the nominee, and abandoned his platform, he lose people big time.
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Not a fair comparison. Sanders is promising everything but the kitchen sink. If he were the nominee,
Trust Buster
Apr 2016
#1
And ,of course, it's hard to know what her postions are, they change day by day...
Human101948
Apr 2016
#55
Electing a Democrat as president for oblivious reasons such as SC nominations.
Thinkingabout
Apr 2016
#2
The fact that the questions was never asked by the MSM and Democratic Machine....
Armstead
Apr 2016
#4
You're making an argument where there is none, just for the sake of argument
Lazy Daisy
Apr 2016
#43
Bernie never would win hard-core Clinton supporters because, let's face it, they
NorthCarolina
Apr 2016
#25
Things that make you go hmmmmm especially in light of the Brock get-paid-as-you-post scheme.
nc4bo
Apr 2016
#40
and I have no time nor patience for it. I am ruthless, from now on, with my ignore feature.
Hiraeth
Apr 2016
#42
If Hillary wants the votes of the Left, she'll have to turn left (or appear to).
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2016
#39