2016 Postmortem

COLGATE4

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160. No question that he gets a lot of the 'Libertarian'

Reply to procon (Reply #79)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:50 PM

Apr 2016

vote, at least now. He's the only successor to Ron Paul now that Rand screwed up so badly.

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Seriously. When did we decide as a Democrat, I should feel shame, wanting a Democratic candidate? [View all] seabeyond Apr 2016 OP

We have those who wish to hijack our process....I for one thought beachbumbob Apr 2016 #1

Abso fucking lutely generous of the Democrats. And instead of being gracious, he has been being the seabeyond Apr 2016 #4

Easy to pull the wool over the eyes of the young.... beachbumbob Apr 2016 #10

Ya. You know. It has been weird, and interesting. I agree. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #12

the pro Bernie demographic on this forum is not young. Stop insulting us. elias7 Apr 2016 #189

Young people are too stupid to know better, yet outrage if POC are tarred with the same brush.... Human101948 Apr 2016 #299

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #19

If he decides to run on the Independent ticket and chooses the correct VEEP. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #21

Yeah. He can split the vote to it goes to the House of COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #157

Haha. Nope. He will be the one to win it. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #192

Are you really suggesting that, if Bernie runs as a COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #193

Are you saying it is impossible because Nader. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #194

No, I'm saying it's impossible because of Hillary and Trump. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #196

Could get very interesting and very close and everyone's vote WOULD matter. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #197

You're flirting with TOC violations. brush Apr 2016 #278

Do you mean ToS? At least charge me right if you are Hiraeth Apr 2016 #302

Yes, TOS is correct. You're going right to the 3rd party advocacy line without crossing. brush Apr 2016 #320

I dont think he's gonna do that. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #258

I don't either but it was a nice thought for a minute. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #301

"...third-Way Democrats..." and I stopped reading. Find a theme song. That one is played out. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #27

I'm crushed. NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #47

But I'm dead serious. I'm so fucking tired of this "third way" bullshit, it's immeasurable. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #52

I agree. I cannot even get a set definition, and all seem to fall under it depending whether seabeyond Apr 2016 #54

+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #56

Thank you. And yes. Lol. ;) Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #58

Sure gonna be quiet around here when Skinner lifts the no vacation rule. -none Apr 2016 #92

Hey! I have 8 hides. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #107

I know, I checked. -none Apr 2016 #115

Then you also noticed two things: Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #178

Not that I saw. -none Apr 2016 #181

Yawn. Speaking of shit stirring. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #183

OK -none Apr 2016 #186

People objecting to a meaningless slur is that hurtful to you? This is a weird thing to come out Squinch Apr 2016 #149

Actually Andy823 Apr 2016 #146

The milk in my fridge has gone sour. It's very third way at this point. Squinch Apr 2016 #151

I think you are right on. Thank you Andy. I stopped discussing politics, because there was no seabeyond Apr 2016 #168

And they harassed and made fun of Obama's supporters mcar Apr 2016 #190

The phrase has taken on a new meaning. Now it means, "I know that I hate Hillary. I've heard Squinch Apr 2016 #62

Omg, yes. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #64

"Oligarch" has become a synonym for it. Squinch Apr 2016 #69

Yes. And there are issues, for sure. None of us are stupid enough to not get it. We live in seabeyond Apr 2016 #73

I think there are huge issues. But I haven't thought Sanders had any way to address them Squinch Apr 2016 #148

I agree with all of that. I posted basically the same basis, that it was the "third way" attack that seabeyond Apr 2016 #169

Amen, BC Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #81

Nothing but a throw away line at this point. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #104

That was the threat to bring Sanders into the Democratic Primary, knowing what was probably in store seabeyond Apr 2016 #32

Too bad they treated him like shit. nt NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #44

Lordy, as he sues, and sues.... and says.... seabeyond Apr 2016 #57

HE has never wanted to be in the Democratic Party. This is demonstrated throughout his career... LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #76

But at least he's raised a lot of money for down ballot Dems... Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #82

It is like, way back campaigning in New Hampshire, a long time Democrat said to Sanders, .... seabeyond Apr 2016 #84

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #89

You just called a poster stupid. Why? seabeyond Apr 2016 #93

Because I'm sick of the Bernie-bashing shit and lying. Bernie is 10 times more a Democrat than she. HERVEPA Apr 2016 #95

We disagree. seabeyond Apr 2016 #101

To that I will answer with this LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #99

you're. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #114

Especially when those within the Democratic Party have been doing all the work. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #290

Exept caucusing with the dems Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #8

Ya. Ok. So? Hence the Democratic party allowing, .... get that? Allowing him to run in our party. seabeyond Apr 2016 #15

So by his own admission he's a hypocrit griffi94 Apr 2016 #24

I guess you'd rathyer than he'd have run as a thiord party spoiler Armstead Apr 2016 #25

I would have rather he had met his promise of integrity. seabeyond Apr 2016 #35

Hoooookay. End of discussion Armstead Apr 2016 #41

That happens. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #61

+1000 stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #110

Exactly. Campaigning within the Democratic Party was a favor. trudyco Apr 2016 #180

Every time I see this list of his many categoric rejections of the Dem. Party, Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #39

The threat of third party run is taken seriously. That is what Democrats had to weigh. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #63

Point taken, but as you can see in my edited post above, Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #86

I think a third party run by Bernardo would have lasted about 6 weeks, maybe 3 months at the outside seabeyond Apr 2016 #91

So when did he become Bernardo? HERVEPA Apr 2016 #103

It's the Saint's name they will give him COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #158

Not to mention, the only reason why Bernie went beyond 3% was because the Dems let him try KitSileya Apr 2016 #200

Excellent point and right on. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #213

He followed the same process you did to be in the party. Live and Learn Apr 2016 #67

I don't mind the closed primaries TDale313 Apr 2016 #2

We are dealing with Republicans, baggers and Libertarians who have no qualm what so ever, seabeyond Apr 2016 #6

You think those people would have a qualm TDale313 Apr 2016 #26

I think this si a special election with both Sanders and Clinton. Both bringing their own special seabeyond Apr 2016 #53

You're wrong about one thing. The majority of Americans do belong to a party. brush Apr 2016 #288

Just to clarify- TDale313 Apr 2016 #291

Yeah, I get that, still more people belong to parties than don't brush Apr 2016 #292

Yep. And unfortunately a lot of people just don't vote period. n/t TDale313 Apr 2016 #295

I've often wondered if Bernie's most ardent fans are crossovers from the previous procon Apr 2016 #79

My son is doing a Philosophy paper on the different political party. He told me he used Sanders seabeyond Apr 2016 #88

Ron Paul's craziness didn't really catch up to him until after the election. procon Apr 2016 #119

I agree. I totally agree. This GE might be fucked up for them, but I do think that awareness will seabeyond Apr 2016 #121

No question that he gets a lot of the 'Libertarian' COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #160

"Are we in an alternative universe here? " sufrommich Apr 2016 #3

Well. No. I think there are way more reasoned people, hence Clinton winning. But, I hear ya. Lol seabeyond Apr 2016 #7

Right back atcha,Sea. sufrommich Apr 2016 #9

Democrats should pick the Democratic nominee griffi94 Apr 2016 #5

All they had to do was take the steps to educate themselves how they would be able to vote, and they seabeyond Apr 2016 #11

Exactly griffi94 Apr 2016 #13

They can take the time to clear caches so they can vote multiple times in online polls. MADem Apr 2016 #18

Impulse voters. I think that is a very good description. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #68

Washington Democrats picked Bernie by 70+ percent. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #70

Bernie did well in Washington griffi94 Apr 2016 #85

couldn't agree more - the Dems select the Dem candidate, the GOP select the GOP candidate, DrDan Apr 2016 #78

And if the Indies and Greens want to vote in the Democratic primary griffi94 Apr 2016 #87

And we should make it as hard as possible to register or change registration (sarcasm) All in it together Apr 2016 #118

Making registration is being made hard by the GOP. Obama, DOJ, Clinton and the Democrats seabeyond Apr 2016 #123

Every state is different griffi94 Apr 2016 #133

I had heard a bunch of stuff about change in Texas voting so, well before the primary I googled seabeyond Apr 2016 #137

I'm in Texas as well. griffi94 Apr 2016 #141

Right? Lol. Nt. seabeyond Apr 2016 #170

They are monday morning quarterbacks blaming the refs. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #14

Ya know, if Bernie had eked out a slightly larger percentage in NY... Armstead Apr 2016 #30

And if ... and if ... and if ... JoePhilly Apr 2016 #40

And if Warren had done so, the Cinton machine and supporters would be working overtime... Armstead Apr 2016 #51

Ahhh ... predictions about hypothetical events in response to facts. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #248

Excellent point!!!! nt LAS14 Apr 2016 #242

And regardless of how often this has been pointed out, real absurdities, it is ignored. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #71

"We Democrats" never decided any such thing. MADem Apr 2016 #16

"...they'd rather co-opt someone else's, and then get mad, after shitting on our carpet, Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #22

Haha I saw another good one griffi94 Apr 2016 #33

LOL--and the pink slip! And money for gas!!! MADem Apr 2016 #43

Hahaha griffi94 Apr 2016 #49

Another.... Abso fuckin' lutely. Yes. There are so many interesting angles in this story. seabeyond Apr 2016 #77

Like the Green Party? Then what would you establishment folks be saying. JCanete Apr 2016 #131

When there are Greens in Congress, I'll take the Green Party seriously. MADem Apr 2016 #185

so until they are a "legitimate" party with their own corporate sponsors you'll do your part to JCanete Apr 2016 #202

Oh boy! A "So then you" strawman! MADem Apr 2016 #209

"So then you"... This is another I simply will not do one more time. So you.... Then a huge story seabeyond Apr 2016 #214

Yep, the "wrap you around an axle" approach to conversation--it's what people do when their team is MADem Apr 2016 #217

it was a starting point, you could have corrected me if I misinterpreted your position, JCanete Apr 2016 #249

It wasn't a starting point--it was a doggone lecture. MADem Apr 2016 #281

Is your goal to win the general election, or to have a party machine? jeff47 Apr 2016 #17

Which Hillary, which seabeyond, which merrily, which jeff? merrily Apr 2016 #20

I see what you did there ... lol Hiraeth Apr 2016 #23

So much to see! merrily Apr 2016 #46

real eye opener ... however, I can not understand allowing someone else to determine how I feel. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #75

That is, just on you. seabeyond Apr 2016 #96

OWN IT. This is YOUR op. READ what YOU wrote. it is ON YOU. jesus. you are obtuse Hiraeth Apr 2016 #105

"maybe that is just me" Lol. I was agreeing with you. Geeeesh. seabeyond Apr 2016 #124

bullshit. AGAIN. Read what YOU wrote: Hiraeth Apr 2016 #129

wow. Now, this is becoming weird. K. you say, ..... "maybe that is just me" seabeyond Apr 2016 #130

alright. maybe you are now agreeing with me. I will accept that. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #134

I know whatever you were implying was a jab at me. I totally do not get, nor care what the jab was. seabeyond Apr 2016 #138

when did we decide? WE did not decide. YOU did. that is all I am trying to say here. no jab. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #143

Yep. Agreed. TDale313 Apr 2016 #29

Many people when registering in Cal wanted to be independent but registered for an actual party All in it together Apr 2016 #152

Yeah. American Independent Party counts on that... TDale313 Apr 2016 #164

What good does winning the general do griffi94 Apr 2016 #37

Way to wander off track there. jeff47 Apr 2016 #198

Haha talk about wandering off track griffi94 Apr 2016 #203

My position is Democratic rule, in a Democratic primary, picking a Democratic candidate. seabeyond Apr 2016 #94

So, you want a machine then. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2016 #199

214. "So then you"... This is another I simply will not do one more time. seabeyond Apr 2016 #215

Yeah, it really sucks when people actually listen to your position jeff47 Apr 2016 #260

Not offended, disrespectful I think and why bother. You have already had the conversation, seabeyond Apr 2016 #263

Because disrespect is entirely not offensive. :eyes: jeff47 Apr 2016 #267

I feel it is disrespectful to define another or create a story of who they are, instead of listening seabeyond Apr 2016 #271

And I feel it's disrespectful to attempt to claim such a personal attack when it isn't present. jeff47 Apr 2016 #276

"So, you want a machine then." Stupid comment that had nothing to do with my reply, simply made to seabeyond Apr 2016 #279

I have no qualms with the democratic party, or for that matter the Rs, or the greens nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #28

Really good post. Thanks. n/t TDale313 Apr 2016 #34

Comparative government comes handy every so often nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #38

Great post Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #36

thanks nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #50

How on earth is letting everyone who is member of a party participate in choosing its nominee KitSileya Apr 2016 #201

It is not in a small d nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #204

If all who are eligible are allowed to vote, and all can become eligible, then it is democratic. KitSileya Apr 2016 #205

A closed election by defintion is not open nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #206

Well, then all elections are closed if that is your definition. KitSileya Apr 2016 #207

Nope, that is polticial science nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #208

Parties are democratic for their constituency. KitSileya Apr 2016 #245

Alas that is not the measure nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #253

Or simply pragmatic fact. But, wtf? Right? seabeyond Apr 2016 #256

Standards of clean and open and transparent nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #264

You are ignoring all fact to try and make the point work. It doesn't hold up. seabeyond Apr 2016 #266

You didn't address that person's point and just plowed straight ahead. It has nothing to do with stevenleser Apr 2016 #296

Apples and nuts nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #297

No, comparing general elections to party primaries is Apples and Nuts. Thanks for playing. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #306

Since I was not comparing a type nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #308

Oh I know very well what you were/are TRYING to do, and I also know why. stevenleser Apr 2016 #309

I still think your candidate, Senator Bernie Sanders, has a chance! zappaman Apr 2016 #210

Don't stop believing! !!! Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #216

Who the fuck appointed you to decide who is "our BEST Democrat?" 99Forever Apr 2016 #31

Actually the decision of who is the best Democrat to be our nominee griffi94 Apr 2016 #42

Annnnnnnnnd ..... there it is!!!! MADem Apr 2016 #48

All or nothing, my way or the highway Dem2 Apr 2016 #74

Yep. If you give them long enough, all the virtuous and COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #162

No one. Nor did I suggest it. Democrats voting in their Democratic primary will do the choosing. seabeyond Apr 2016 #97

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #45

I think that the party crashers should go do the work and form their own The Second Stone Apr 2016 #55

With party realignment that will happen nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #83

Since the Clintons and the DNC made the Democratic party a less malevolent version tabasco Apr 2016 #59

Too many think Democrat is a club and not a policy. kpola12 Apr 2016 #60

"Too many think Democrat is a club" The strong majority of Democrats disagree with you. seabeyond Apr 2016 #98

I have been told it is a club here on DU nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #113

Perhaps you should feel a little sheepish inchhigh Apr 2016 #65

So true Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #72

Why? Most of us are prepared with a "because" after "I want a Democratic president" lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #66

I suspect you don't read a lot of pro-Clinton posts. LAS14 Apr 2016 #247

You're silly. Hillary is the Queen of Shame and her followers are the Legion of Shame WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #80

Ah, insults. seabeyond Apr 2016 #100

Dude! Why do you get special treatment? No one else does. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #102

I don't know it Hillary has the empathy to feel shame. Her followers must speak for themselves. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #111

Seriously. When did we decide as a Democrat, I should feel shame, wanting a Democratic candidate? jmousso75 Apr 2016 #90

If one wants to have a say in who the Democratic candidate is they should register as a Democrat Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #106

K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #108

Since we have been infiltrated by corporate beholden operatives that pose as Democrats. insta8er Apr 2016 #109

Yada yada yada. seabeyond Apr 2016 #126

Lalalalalalalalalalalalllalalalal insta8er Apr 2016 #128

Exactly. Yadda yadda yadda. Nothing more. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #163

I honestly can't read past the word "corporate" anymore Recursion Apr 2016 #322

There's no reason party primaries shouldn't katsy Apr 2016 #112

That would be the democratic way to do it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #116

+1 katsy Apr 2016 #120

Absolutely nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #122

agreed obamanut2012 Apr 2016 #117

K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #125

Where do you get off callling only one of our candidates Democrats? Who appointed you? Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #127

Never. Any "shame" you feel is on you. SMC22307 Apr 2016 #132

Thank you. Maybe, you have explained it better than I did. I tried but, seemed to have failed. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #147

I just read your #75... SMC22307 Apr 2016 #156

Gosh. Thanks. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #191

All people should be able to vote for their preferred candidate. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #135

Parties are selecting party nominees. Gasp.... Not a tough concept. seabeyond Apr 2016 #139

You're right. It's not a tough concept and it works. But, it's not democratic. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #144

The Democratic Party I knew was not run by a neocon, corporate shill. awake Apr 2016 #136

And the Democrats vote. seabeyond Apr 2016 #140

Thoes who's registration has not been mysterisly changed that is awake Apr 2016 #145

God, Read up. The statistics have now been put out and almost COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #165

From what I had read, the only poor judgment or mishap was not kicking the 70k off previous election seabeyond Apr 2016 #171

Correct. But that won't stop them from bitching over and over COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #174

yadda yadda yadda. Yup. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #176

Rinse and repeat - ad nauseam. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #177

But, but, but!! MADem Apr 2016 #218

They're still deep in denial. Well, they've got until about 10:00 PM COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #287

When the democrat is bad for the country whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #142

Excellent question. It should never happen. KPN Apr 2016 #150

Depends if you want a DINO or a real liberal Democrat. B Calm Apr 2016 #153

Surely the Democrats get to decide the "DINO" thru our vote, right? seabeyond Apr 2016 #172

You mean the shitty fucking candidate our major democratic party is shoving down our throats? B Calm Apr 2016 #195

That the Democratic voters have voted on and is winning hands down. seabeyond Apr 2016 #219

Democrats should get to decide who the the Democratic nominee is Gothmog Apr 2016 #154

When you stopped looking at policy Arkana Apr 2016 #155

Insulting to suggest if one does not go with your candidate, we are simply not looking at policy. seabeyond Apr 2016 #173

rahrah, my team [label here] is the best! lakeguy Apr 2016 #159

The Democratic Party changed into something else in my lifetime Go Vols Apr 2016 #161

That is the point, though. I lot of us see that Hillary is not a "real" Democrat. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #166

And more of us disagree with you. Doesn't mean we open it up to have others decide, right? seabeyond Apr 2016 #175

Not sure I get what you're complaining about? Is it because Sanders runs as a D or that republicans Sunlei Apr 2016 #167

I think we are supposed to feel shame for wanting some one not anointed by the democratic party Autumn Apr 2016 #179

She is getting the votes. That isn't anointing. To want Sanders regardless of "We the people" would seabeyond Apr 2016 #182

No. The alternate universe would make sense. GeorgeGist Apr 2016 #184

When our Democratic party sold out to corporate interests and the top 0.1%. nt mhatrw Apr 2016 #187

Great question! mcar Apr 2016 #188

only on bernie underground. But that will end soon. Lil Missy Apr 2016 #211

I am trying to figure out the point of the OP. It seems like word salad to me. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #212

Over 200 hundred replies had no problem understanding the OP so I have to wonder about your ability seabeyond Apr 2016 #221

Just seems badly written that's all. Like I said, word salad. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #225

And again.... Whatever. seabeyond Apr 2016 #226

Don't take it personally. Here, have a cookie. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #232

I do not take it personally, and why the game? Think it makes you look clever? seabeyond Apr 2016 #237

There is no game, I just think the OP is poorly written. I told you that, you seemed upset. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #240

Have a cookie? seabeyond Apr 2016 #241

Well the PUMA stuff kinda did me in...I cannot take on faith something just because I want to. Rex Apr 2016 #220

Sanders is the PUMA of 2016. I put no concern in it in 2008 and I certainly don't now. seabeyond Apr 2016 #223

I refuse the 'both parties are the same' bullshit and the partisan infighting. Rex Apr 2016 #227

You are a hoot Rex. seabeyond Apr 2016 #228

Loveya sea! Rex Apr 2016 #231

Lets wait until the race is called, them we can talk "PUMA" or not, Sea. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #234

Sanders people meet the very definition of PUMA, Warren. And, I did not bring the word up. seabeyond Apr 2016 #235

"Sanders people" are not a monolith. Im a sanders person, and I've said up and down I'll support the Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #238

No, they are not Warren. Absolutely. None of us are regardless of our candidate. PUMA of 2008 seabeyond Apr 2016 #239

True. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #246

Well look at the results, even with PUMA...Obama became POTUS and HRC became SOS. Rex Apr 2016 #250

I totally agree. 2008 I didn't even know what they were. I heard comments, but I was focused on seabeyond Apr 2016 #255

I skipped out on the 2008 primary. Had to think about my blood pressure. Rex Apr 2016 #262

I agree. But, I was all the way an Obama supporter. Nt. seabeyond Apr 2016 #265

I think the PUMA phenomenon was overblown in 2008, and likewise Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #257

It looks like it. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #268

How about Port angeles? That or olympia. Which. I sure do like Port angeles. Lol. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #236

From what I've seen, it's all beautiful up there. Hard to go wrong, I think Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #244

True that. Thanks. I still have a year to decide, but thanks. I am really listening to people up seabeyond Apr 2016 #270

Yeah, were i am now is probably about the farthest ive lived from the ocean in most of my adult life Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #273

I agree totally. In Oregon, there is Cannon, Astoria, Coo Bay, but they seabeyond Apr 2016 #275

You'd have to deal with lot of hippies, in Eugene. But you get the Oregon Country Fair every summer Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #283

I am good with hippies. seabeyond Apr 2016 #285

You should only feel shame on how narrowly you define 'Democratic'. nt beedle Apr 2016 #222

But... You are truly limited in info to arrive at any kind of understanding how I define, shit. seabeyond Apr 2016 #224

Hey. I've read your posts, maybe your communication skills are just as limited beedle Apr 2016 #229

mmmmmmm, lol. seabeyond Apr 2016 #230

It would be a huge rebuilding job if the parties went away. LAS14 Apr 2016 #233

Sanders has started a revolution among young people. That will not just go away imo even if he loses Rex Apr 2016 #243

I'm glad for the young people Sanders has brought in. LAS14 Apr 2016 #251

Me too, we are the Democratic Party and should be bringing in the younger generations. Rex Apr 2016 #254

But lets not forget. Democrats ALWAYS attract youth in GE. This is not new. Sanders brought them seabeyond Apr 2016 #261

I know a lot of young women that cannot wait to vote, their first time Rex Apr 2016 #269

Exactly. I did not care who they are voting for, I want the enthusiasm, but I want it to go thru GE seabeyond Apr 2016 #274

My mom is excited, puts a smile on my face to see her so energized at 68. Rex Apr 2016 #280

Our primary is so long. Thankfully, the GE won't start up until about Sept.... and that is only seabeyond Apr 2016 #282

We will crush Dumpster Don and Cruz Missile! Rex Apr 2016 #284

I agree with you. They will try to make it a race, but I think it is the Democrats to lose. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #286

That is what I've been saying under my breath, figured the last few months might as well say it. Rex Apr 2016 #289

The alternate universe is the one where Hillary Clinton is a democrat basselope Apr 2016 #252

The alternate universe is the one where BERNIE is a democrat. Hillary has BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #293

Hillary a democrat??? basselope Apr 2016 #294

In the top 15% of most liberal in congress. seabeyond Apr 2016 #298

LOL. basselope Apr 2016 #300

Of course, the yada yada reply. seabeyond Apr 2016 #304

No, the truth. basselope Apr 2016 #310

No. Merely an opinion. seabeyond Apr 2016 #312

Sorry, but facts are facts. basselope Apr 2016 #313

my reply was not about that point. seabeyond Apr 2016 #314

Well.. that WAS the point. basselope Apr 2016 #315

"Clinton is no democrat. She is a republican. Just like her husband, just like Obama." seabeyond Apr 2016 #316

That is the fact that leads to the other fact. basselope Apr 2016 #317

Lordy. No. That is not a fact. Now. Done. seabeyond Apr 2016 #318

Of course it is. basselope Apr 2016 #319

It is astounding how ridiculous some (not all of course) of these Clinton supporters sound. JumpinJehosaphat Apr 2016 #259

Well. See. You are wrong. seabeyond Apr 2016 #277

You're backing a right-winger. Therefore, I and many others see you Broward Apr 2016 #272

Are you a member of the Democratic Party? imagine2015 Apr 2016 #303

Is that all? immoderate Apr 2016 #305

Wow Seabeyond, you really shook the hornets' nest. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #307

We're sure as shit in an alternate universe if you think HRC is our best Democrat. vintx Apr 2016 #311

Hillary is a fake dem, and you are too star struck to see it. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #321