2016 Postmortem

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86. He doesn't care about the issus when he claims "we'll see" about helping down ballot dems....

Reply to senz (Reply #81)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:04 AM

Apr 2016

... he's full of shit.

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Clinton supporters...be prepared to make your best case at convention! [View all] silvershadow Apr 2016 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author metroins Apr 2016 #1

Bernie is far more trusting than i am. ridgenvalley Apr 2016 #2

Absolutely... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #3

Have you ever seen a candidate adhere to the platform? 72DejaVu Apr 2016 #6

I watched Obama, for the most part, Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #10

The candidates promises and the party's platform are not the same thing. 72DejaVu Apr 2016 #14

oh PLEASE MFM008 Apr 2016 #27

I've been a democrat since 2nd grade... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #46

Right? Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #58

I admire your candor. ridgenvalley Apr 2016 #12

The platform is a statement of principles and goals 72DejaVu Apr 2016 #15

I'm 60. I've given it plenty of thought. ridgenvalley Apr 2016 #16

Boom! Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #47

Which according to you means nothing. Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #59

She wrote the TPP and ushered it through. I cannot vote for the Corporate State. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #25

Some have tried but have not succeeded because of the powerful opposition. Would you Cal33 Apr 2016 #118

Bernie is laying down the gauntlet to put up or shut up. She can't put up with any silvershadow Apr 2016 #7

He is not the front runner Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #35

Helping the GOP? Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #48

He does, however, have enough support that if it is withheld, the frontrunner won't win. Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #60

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #124

agree with your assessment Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #8

Has Bernie ever attended/ participated in a DNC National Convention... Ever? FarPoint Apr 2016 #26

Has the DNC ever listened to its progressive wing ridgenvalley Apr 2016 #29

Can you answer the question? FarPoint Apr 2016 #33

That's an easy one. ridgenvalley Apr 2016 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #84

No, he will be looking for the door. FarPoint Apr 2016 #85

I think there are a lot of people who don't know how the convention works... 72DejaVu Apr 2016 #4

Whistling past the graveyard. Why should she represent his views as her own instead of him silvershadow Apr 2016 #9

I'm not following that 72DejaVu Apr 2016 #13

If the platform doesn't look like his, guess who doesn't get the votes? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #21

It is quite funny Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #43

This is great griffi94 Apr 2016 #5

Umm ... Bernie is making a reasoned pivot. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #11

I understand why...and then, like I said, be prepared to make your best case to ME at the silvershadow Apr 2016 #19

It's ok. No one is holding their breath for your vote. Do with it what you will brush Apr 2016 #57

This is the best case that might be made. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #66

As a Hillary supporter... JSup Apr 2016 #17

His endorsement or lack thereof (or anywhere in between) carries *enormous weight. silvershadow Apr 2016 #22

I don't care who you vote for. Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #32

This thread is convincing me to try to be national delegate for Clinton Gothmog Apr 2016 #18

It will, in fact, be an enormous lift to fly in the face of the evidence before you. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #20

You got to be kidding Gothmog Apr 2016 #23

So you're really voting for the Corporate State? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #24

I am a member of the Democratic party Gothmog Apr 2016 #50

But are you actually going to pull the trigger on Democracy? That's what I meant?nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #52

Insulting voters is a good way to win support Gothmog Apr 2016 #121

That's not an insult, that's exactly where we are at. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #122

We don't have to say anything Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #28

No doubt Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #44

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I do not want Sanders to campaign for Clinton, I do not trust Sanders to campaign for Clinton. seabeyond Apr 2016 #30

Me either. I used to like him too. grossproffit Apr 2016 #37

He will win this thing yet. It is FAR from over. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #40

His ass has been well kicked. Winner and a Loser. seabeyond Apr 2016 #41

He might. But with Hillary it is guaranteed. Besides, she is for The Corporate State and TPP. silvershadow Apr 2016 #42

I don't think you get it. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #31

The longer Bernie stays in the race, the more left Hillary has to run. What B Calm Apr 2016 #34

I haven't said he should drop out... NCTraveler Apr 2016 #36

It's good to see Bernie beginning the conversation at least Tarc Apr 2016 #39

I thought we were still stuck at "bargaining" brooklynite Apr 2016 #45

Make your best case hillary i'm ready for the bullshit. RATM435 Apr 2016 #49

Benie will support Hillary. Period. RandySF Apr 2016 #51

Hope you all have a back up plan when the votes don't come in November. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #53

They will RandySF Apr 2016 #54

So we are abandoned the new deal then for the Corporate State? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #55

Don't project your own motives and biases. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #103

His endorsement... deathrind Apr 2016 #56

She already has them, remember the Debbiegate story? She's been mailing me postal silvershadow Apr 2016 #61

That's right. deathrind Apr 2016 #64

the loser doesn't get to set the terms. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2016 #62

She's really trying hard to get my vote isn't she? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #63

I'm thinking her best case is that she won more votes, which means more delegates all american girl Apr 2016 #65

You misunderstood my post. I am telling you to be prepared to make your case at convention silvershadow Apr 2016 #67

Doesn't the DNC make the platform? all american girl Apr 2016 #68

They sure do. I'm sounding the alarm to them to plan wisely for the sake of our party. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #69

So what would you like in the platform all american girl Apr 2016 #70

We can discuss it later. I still expect Bernie to be the nominee as she has no case for it. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #71

He does have a lot of delegates he has to make up for... all american girl Apr 2016 #72

The party insiders already know in the pit of their stomach that she can't expect silvershadow Apr 2016 #73

So you don't think it's "suicide" to over turn all the voters? all american girl Apr 2016 #74

Are you writing a book, dear? Please. I'm going to have to put you on full ignore now. silvershadow Apr 2016 #76

Why? all american girl Apr 2016 #77

test! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #83

I don't recall Hillary making these kinds of demands from Obama in 2008. Beacool Apr 2016 #75

I don't recall being even remotely interested in what she was selling back then, either. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #80

Well, I'm not remotely interest in Sanders' demands. Beacool Apr 2016 #88

You mean the electorates demands? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #94

So in 2008 it wasn't the electorates demands, but now in 2016 it is? BS cheerleader hypocrisy SFnomad Apr 2016 #97

I didn't say a thing about 2008, it's just something you asserted. silvershadow Apr 2016 #99

And now you just all out lie SFnomad Apr 2016 #101

No you are conflating. I said I wasn't remotely interested in what she was selling back then. silvershadow Apr 2016 #102

LOL ... you were the one conflating them originally SFnomad Apr 2016 #104

Bernie entered the race to launch a political revolution. He CARES about the issues. senz Apr 2016 #81

He doesn't care about the issus when he claims "we'll see" about helping down ballot dems.... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #86

He's full of himself. Beacool Apr 2016 #91

Today on MTP he blamed poor people for not voting, Clinton never blamed the people for uponit7771 Apr 2016 #92

Yes, we know what Sanders thinks of the South and its poor people. Beacool Apr 2016 #93

Typical dismissive and insulting behavior from one of his supporters. Beacool Apr 2016 #90

See... that's the thing. Clinton and Sanders have different motivations. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #105

Nonsense. Beacool Apr 2016 #119

There are ways Sanders Could get the Superdelegates! ncovington89 Apr 2016 #79

The ONLY case they have is: "Republicans are worse." That is ALL they have. senz Apr 2016 #82

Which is probably why the Republicans are stalling on SCOTUS. silvershadow Apr 2016 #95

With Hillary, they've got all their bases covered. senz Apr 2016 #98

I didn't say that. Where did you get that from? silvershadow Apr 2016 #100

It was all over this forum late last night. Here's a link -- senz Apr 2016 #107

Oh, a different thread. Try to stay on topic. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #108

Not true. Perhaps you didn't understand my response. senz Apr 2016 #109

We are. I thought so too. Perhaps not. I just woke up. I'm still not even fully awake. :) nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #110

Wake up grouchy, eh? senz Apr 2016 #113

This primary can't end soon enough for me. My future depends on the outcome. silvershadow Apr 2016 #114

That sounds kind of dire. senz Apr 2016 #115

I cannot support the cementing of The Corporate State. I hope it doesn't come down silvershadow Apr 2016 #116

The TPP represent a big step into cementing. senz Apr 2016 #117

Oh wow I'm not blocked from commenting..... seekthetruth Apr 2016 #87

Given the vote count, I'd say the case has already been made brooklynite Apr 2016 #89

Well after what happened in NY, and virtually ever other state, I'd say it hasn't been made silvershadow Apr 2016 #96

It all comes back to "It's her turn!" ... NewImproved Deal Apr 2016 #106

Make your best case why RandySF Apr 2016 #111

So she will have actual people along, not just corporate "persons". silvershadow Apr 2016 #112

The Best case is going to be... SaschaHM Apr 2016 #120

As stated upthread, I as talking about keeping me in the party going forward from silvershadow Apr 2016 #123