2016 Postmortem

pampango

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16. Since Trump "lies" and "flips his views" repeating his talking points does not prove anything.

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:00 AM

Apr 2016

Most Democrats support TPP. Most republicans oppose it. Bernie will renegotiate NAFTA. Trump will 'rip it up'.
Trump wants to build up the military and 'obliterate' ISIS. Believe he is anti-war if you wish.
Trump is only in favor of one rich guy donating money to one rich guy's campaign.
He "hints" at a lot of things - generally whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear.

Trump openly talks ..., Trump openly talks ..., Trump talks bad about it ..., He has said on many occasion ...

I am glad that his rhetoric is having an effect on some liberals. I am not defending Hillary since I support Bernie. But no one should think Trump is more liberal or anti-war than any of our candidates, rhetoric notwithstanding.

I am not endorsing Trump at all

Glad to hear it. You had me going there for a minute.

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Bernie is 110% right poor people don't vote [View all] bigdarryl Apr 2016 OP

It's a poor revolutionary kennetha Apr 2016 #1

That's a shallow and wrongheaded answer Armstead Apr 2016 #25

Because of inquities in our system, minorties make up a big percentage of the poor . . . brush Apr 2016 #35

You are correct in terms of present familiarity with candidates Armstead Apr 2016 #36

Maybe, but still, if the poor, a good many of whom are minorities, did vote, they've vote like . . brush Apr 2016 #39

I am talking about larger than just electoral strategy Armstead Apr 2016 #41

Didn't he suggest that that was one of the reasons he was losing? brush Apr 2016 #44

Analyze this: young adults are also known for not voting, yet that is who Sanders went after... KittyWampus Apr 2016 #43

i will not try to convince you of anything, not analyze anything Armstead Apr 2016 #45

Has he had a voter registration effort going? brush Apr 2016 #60

I can't speak for that...I'm not on his campaign staff Armstead Apr 2016 #61

But Amstead, Bernie's answer is telling. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #46

From about 3 precent in the polls to about 40 percent is pretty damn good Armstead Apr 2016 #50

From 3% to 40% is huge. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #52

No prob about the name...It's my middle name and I had a hard time spelling it when young Armstead Apr 2016 #54

AMEN uponit7771 Apr 2016 #56

Currently he is 44% of voters below $50,000, still losing in that category also. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #2

Let's all pile on the Only liberal candidate up for the presidential election fasttense Apr 2016 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #5

Obviously you don't want liberals in the Democratic party. fasttense Apr 2016 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #7

If you support Hillary... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #19

Careful, with all those purity tests, the "revolution" becomes exclusive... JaneyVee Apr 2016 #27

so who do you want to include here? Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #28

So what's your stance on these issues? Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #57

You've just diagnosed a considerable portion of the Democratic Party membership. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #47

What are your stance on these issue? Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #58

No, I think you are a moderate conservative capatalist fasttense Apr 2016 #23

" Hillary is more RepubliCON like than Trump." How exactly? n/t pampango Apr 2016 #8

To name a few Gwhittey Apr 2016 #12

Since Trump "lies" and "flips his views" repeating his talking points does not prove anything. pampango Apr 2016 #16

I was only replying from stand point that many voters will take in GE Gwhittey Apr 2016 #17

Same goes for Hillary TrueDemVA Apr 2016 #18

I can see this wishy washiness from HRC & Trump astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #34

7-0 leave Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #30

That's the point...This is not only about Sanders. It's a campaign against all reform Armstead Apr 2016 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #4

you put a smile on my face...like if wasn;t for the fact beachbum bob Apr 2016 #9

Do have link to that post Gwhittey Apr 2016 #13

Sanders' analysis about the poor, and those supporters of his who agree are nuts. brush Apr 2016 #38

Some factual data... Sancho Apr 2016 #10

This exactly. ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #15

More like voter suppression... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #20

Well said, thanks! nt haikugal Apr 2016 #37

The poor turn out to vote for Clinton, not Sanders Tarc Apr 2016 #11

My problem with that is this; He won Washington State in a landslide ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #14

She won NY, where turnout was 29%, in NYC just 12% of eligible Democrats voted at all. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #21

But Sanders is the champion of the poor AND he's drawing people into the political process. George II Apr 2016 #22

He's behind because capitalist don't want a Socialist President. fasttense Apr 2016 #24

Capitalism will always exist. Always. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #29

Money is NOT capitalism. Capitalism will evolve away like feudalism. fasttense Apr 2016 #31

I dont want to read Marx, I like capitalism. And... JaneyVee Apr 2016 #32

Polls in NY were held when poor were at work and not when Stock Markets opened egalitegirl Apr 2016 #33

So, what does that say about caucuses which are more time restrictive? Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #42

Nice comeback, Chicago. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #48

What does that say? Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #40

I think Bernie made a broad brush with his comment. Of course many in riversedge Apr 2016 #49

Political Correctness is a Self-Inflicted Restriction on Free Speech PCPrincess Apr 2016 #51

Thank you for speaking so eloquently for the poor. beedle Apr 2016 #59

The poor don't vote because they have been disproportionately disenfranchised. -none Apr 2016 #53

Well he and his supporters have slammed every other good Democrat, now let's slam the poor. Hoyt Apr 2016 #55

It's true. Poor people don't vote... ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #62