2016 Postmortem

seabeyond

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275. I agree totally. In Oregon, there is Cannon, Astoria, Coo Bay, but they

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 05:11 PM

Apr 2016

are small and do not seems really nifty well put together towns. Eugene would be an easy two or three hour drive to the ocean, which isn't bad. Living in Texas, we are use to driving distance to go anywhere. So Eugene is an equal consideration for Oregon.

Thank you for chatting about this. Lol.

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Seriously. When did we decide as a Democrat, I should feel shame, wanting a Democratic candidate? [View all] seabeyond Apr 2016 OP

We have those who wish to hijack our process....I for one thought beachbumbob Apr 2016 #1

Abso fucking lutely generous of the Democrats. And instead of being gracious, he has been being the seabeyond Apr 2016 #4

Easy to pull the wool over the eyes of the young.... beachbumbob Apr 2016 #10

Ya. You know. It has been weird, and interesting. I agree. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #12

the pro Bernie demographic on this forum is not young. Stop insulting us. elias7 Apr 2016 #189

Young people are too stupid to know better, yet outrage if POC are tarred with the same brush.... Human101948 Apr 2016 #299

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #19

If he decides to run on the Independent ticket and chooses the correct VEEP. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #21

Yeah. He can split the vote to it goes to the House of COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #157

Haha. Nope. He will be the one to win it. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #192

Are you really suggesting that, if Bernie runs as a COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #193

Are you saying it is impossible because Nader. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #194

No, I'm saying it's impossible because of Hillary and Trump. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #196

Could get very interesting and very close and everyone's vote WOULD matter. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #197

You're flirting with TOC violations. brush Apr 2016 #278

Do you mean ToS? At least charge me right if you are Hiraeth Apr 2016 #302

Yes, TOS is correct. You're going right to the 3rd party advocacy line without crossing. brush Apr 2016 #320

I dont think he's gonna do that. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #258

I don't either but it was a nice thought for a minute. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #301

"...third-Way Democrats..." and I stopped reading. Find a theme song. That one is played out. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #27

I'm crushed. NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #47

But I'm dead serious. I'm so fucking tired of this "third way" bullshit, it's immeasurable. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #52

I agree. I cannot even get a set definition, and all seem to fall under it depending whether seabeyond Apr 2016 #54

+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #56

Thank you. And yes. Lol. ;) Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #58

Sure gonna be quiet around here when Skinner lifts the no vacation rule. -none Apr 2016 #92

Hey! I have 8 hides. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #107

I know, I checked. -none Apr 2016 #115

Then you also noticed two things: Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #178

Not that I saw. -none Apr 2016 #181

Yawn. Speaking of shit stirring. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #183

OK -none Apr 2016 #186

People objecting to a meaningless slur is that hurtful to you? This is a weird thing to come out Squinch Apr 2016 #149

Actually Andy823 Apr 2016 #146

The milk in my fridge has gone sour. It's very third way at this point. Squinch Apr 2016 #151

I think you are right on. Thank you Andy. I stopped discussing politics, because there was no seabeyond Apr 2016 #168

And they harassed and made fun of Obama's supporters mcar Apr 2016 #190

The phrase has taken on a new meaning. Now it means, "I know that I hate Hillary. I've heard Squinch Apr 2016 #62

Omg, yes. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #64

"Oligarch" has become a synonym for it. Squinch Apr 2016 #69

Yes. And there are issues, for sure. None of us are stupid enough to not get it. We live in seabeyond Apr 2016 #73

I think there are huge issues. But I haven't thought Sanders had any way to address them Squinch Apr 2016 #148

I agree with all of that. I posted basically the same basis, that it was the "third way" attack that seabeyond Apr 2016 #169

Amen, BC Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #81

Nothing but a throw away line at this point. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #104

That was the threat to bring Sanders into the Democratic Primary, knowing what was probably in store seabeyond Apr 2016 #32

Too bad they treated him like shit. nt NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #44

Lordy, as he sues, and sues.... and says.... seabeyond Apr 2016 #57

HE has never wanted to be in the Democratic Party. This is demonstrated throughout his career... LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #76

But at least he's raised a lot of money for down ballot Dems... Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #82

It is like, way back campaigning in New Hampshire, a long time Democrat said to Sanders, .... seabeyond Apr 2016 #84

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #89

You just called a poster stupid. Why? seabeyond Apr 2016 #93

Because I'm sick of the Bernie-bashing shit and lying. Bernie is 10 times more a Democrat than she. HERVEPA Apr 2016 #95

We disagree. seabeyond Apr 2016 #101

To that I will answer with this LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #99

you're. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #114

Especially when those within the Democratic Party have been doing all the work. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #290

Exept caucusing with the dems Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #8

Ya. Ok. So? Hence the Democratic party allowing, .... get that? Allowing him to run in our party. seabeyond Apr 2016 #15

So by his own admission he's a hypocrit griffi94 Apr 2016 #24

I guess you'd rathyer than he'd have run as a thiord party spoiler Armstead Apr 2016 #25

I would have rather he had met his promise of integrity. seabeyond Apr 2016 #35

Hoooookay. End of discussion Armstead Apr 2016 #41

That happens. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #61

+1000 stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #110

Exactly. Campaigning within the Democratic Party was a favor. trudyco Apr 2016 #180

Every time I see this list of his many categoric rejections of the Dem. Party, Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #39

The threat of third party run is taken seriously. That is what Democrats had to weigh. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #63

Point taken, but as you can see in my edited post above, Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #86

I think a third party run by Bernardo would have lasted about 6 weeks, maybe 3 months at the outside seabeyond Apr 2016 #91

So when did he become Bernardo? HERVEPA Apr 2016 #103

It's the Saint's name they will give him COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #158

Not to mention, the only reason why Bernie went beyond 3% was because the Dems let him try KitSileya Apr 2016 #200

Excellent point and right on. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #213

He followed the same process you did to be in the party. Live and Learn Apr 2016 #67

I don't mind the closed primaries TDale313 Apr 2016 #2

We are dealing with Republicans, baggers and Libertarians who have no qualm what so ever, seabeyond Apr 2016 #6

You think those people would have a qualm TDale313 Apr 2016 #26

I think this si a special election with both Sanders and Clinton. Both bringing their own special seabeyond Apr 2016 #53

You're wrong about one thing. The majority of Americans do belong to a party. brush Apr 2016 #288

Just to clarify- TDale313 Apr 2016 #291

Yeah, I get that, still more people belong to parties than don't brush Apr 2016 #292

Yep. And unfortunately a lot of people just don't vote period. n/t TDale313 Apr 2016 #295

I've often wondered if Bernie's most ardent fans are crossovers from the previous procon Apr 2016 #79

My son is doing a Philosophy paper on the different political party. He told me he used Sanders seabeyond Apr 2016 #88

Ron Paul's craziness didn't really catch up to him until after the election. procon Apr 2016 #119

I agree. I totally agree. This GE might be fucked up for them, but I do think that awareness will seabeyond Apr 2016 #121

No question that he gets a lot of the 'Libertarian' COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #160

"Are we in an alternative universe here? " sufrommich Apr 2016 #3

Well. No. I think there are way more reasoned people, hence Clinton winning. But, I hear ya. Lol seabeyond Apr 2016 #7

Right back atcha,Sea. sufrommich Apr 2016 #9

Democrats should pick the Democratic nominee griffi94 Apr 2016 #5

All they had to do was take the steps to educate themselves how they would be able to vote, and they seabeyond Apr 2016 #11

Exactly griffi94 Apr 2016 #13

They can take the time to clear caches so they can vote multiple times in online polls. MADem Apr 2016 #18

Impulse voters. I think that is a very good description. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #68

Washington Democrats picked Bernie by 70+ percent. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #70

Bernie did well in Washington griffi94 Apr 2016 #85

couldn't agree more - the Dems select the Dem candidate, the GOP select the GOP candidate, DrDan Apr 2016 #78

And if the Indies and Greens want to vote in the Democratic primary griffi94 Apr 2016 #87

And we should make it as hard as possible to register or change registration (sarcasm) All in it together Apr 2016 #118

Making registration is being made hard by the GOP. Obama, DOJ, Clinton and the Democrats seabeyond Apr 2016 #123

Every state is different griffi94 Apr 2016 #133

I had heard a bunch of stuff about change in Texas voting so, well before the primary I googled seabeyond Apr 2016 #137

I'm in Texas as well. griffi94 Apr 2016 #141

Right? Lol. Nt. seabeyond Apr 2016 #170

They are monday morning quarterbacks blaming the refs. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #14

Ya know, if Bernie had eked out a slightly larger percentage in NY... Armstead Apr 2016 #30

And if ... and if ... and if ... JoePhilly Apr 2016 #40

And if Warren had done so, the Cinton machine and supporters would be working overtime... Armstead Apr 2016 #51

Ahhh ... predictions about hypothetical events in response to facts. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #248

Excellent point!!!! nt LAS14 Apr 2016 #242

And regardless of how often this has been pointed out, real absurdities, it is ignored. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #71

"We Democrats" never decided any such thing. MADem Apr 2016 #16

"...they'd rather co-opt someone else's, and then get mad, after shitting on our carpet, Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #22

Haha I saw another good one griffi94 Apr 2016 #33

LOL--and the pink slip! And money for gas!!! MADem Apr 2016 #43

Hahaha griffi94 Apr 2016 #49

Another.... Abso fuckin' lutely. Yes. There are so many interesting angles in this story. seabeyond Apr 2016 #77

Like the Green Party? Then what would you establishment folks be saying. JCanete Apr 2016 #131

When there are Greens in Congress, I'll take the Green Party seriously. MADem Apr 2016 #185

so until they are a "legitimate" party with their own corporate sponsors you'll do your part to JCanete Apr 2016 #202

Oh boy! A "So then you" strawman! MADem Apr 2016 #209

"So then you"... This is another I simply will not do one more time. So you.... Then a huge story seabeyond Apr 2016 #214

Yep, the "wrap you around an axle" approach to conversation--it's what people do when their team is MADem Apr 2016 #217

it was a starting point, you could have corrected me if I misinterpreted your position, JCanete Apr 2016 #249

It wasn't a starting point--it was a doggone lecture. MADem Apr 2016 #281

Is your goal to win the general election, or to have a party machine? jeff47 Apr 2016 #17

Which Hillary, which seabeyond, which merrily, which jeff? merrily Apr 2016 #20

I see what you did there ... lol Hiraeth Apr 2016 #23

So much to see! merrily Apr 2016 #46

real eye opener ... however, I can not understand allowing someone else to determine how I feel. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #75

That is, just on you. seabeyond Apr 2016 #96

OWN IT. This is YOUR op. READ what YOU wrote. it is ON YOU. jesus. you are obtuse Hiraeth Apr 2016 #105

"maybe that is just me" Lol. I was agreeing with you. Geeeesh. seabeyond Apr 2016 #124

bullshit. AGAIN. Read what YOU wrote: Hiraeth Apr 2016 #129

wow. Now, this is becoming weird. K. you say, ..... "maybe that is just me" seabeyond Apr 2016 #130

alright. maybe you are now agreeing with me. I will accept that. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #134

I know whatever you were implying was a jab at me. I totally do not get, nor care what the jab was. seabeyond Apr 2016 #138

when did we decide? WE did not decide. YOU did. that is all I am trying to say here. no jab. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #143

Yep. Agreed. TDale313 Apr 2016 #29

Many people when registering in Cal wanted to be independent but registered for an actual party All in it together Apr 2016 #152

Yeah. American Independent Party counts on that... TDale313 Apr 2016 #164

What good does winning the general do griffi94 Apr 2016 #37

Way to wander off track there. jeff47 Apr 2016 #198

Haha talk about wandering off track griffi94 Apr 2016 #203

My position is Democratic rule, in a Democratic primary, picking a Democratic candidate. seabeyond Apr 2016 #94

So, you want a machine then. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2016 #199

214. "So then you"... This is another I simply will not do one more time. seabeyond Apr 2016 #215

Yeah, it really sucks when people actually listen to your position jeff47 Apr 2016 #260

Not offended, disrespectful I think and why bother. You have already had the conversation, seabeyond Apr 2016 #263

Because disrespect is entirely not offensive. :eyes: jeff47 Apr 2016 #267

I feel it is disrespectful to define another or create a story of who they are, instead of listening seabeyond Apr 2016 #271

And I feel it's disrespectful to attempt to claim such a personal attack when it isn't present. jeff47 Apr 2016 #276

"So, you want a machine then." Stupid comment that had nothing to do with my reply, simply made to seabeyond Apr 2016 #279

I have no qualms with the democratic party, or for that matter the Rs, or the greens nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #28

Really good post. Thanks. n/t TDale313 Apr 2016 #34

Comparative government comes handy every so often nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #38

Great post Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #36

thanks nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #50

How on earth is letting everyone who is member of a party participate in choosing its nominee KitSileya Apr 2016 #201

It is not in a small d nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #204

If all who are eligible are allowed to vote, and all can become eligible, then it is democratic. KitSileya Apr 2016 #205

A closed election by defintion is not open nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #206

Well, then all elections are closed if that is your definition. KitSileya Apr 2016 #207

Nope, that is polticial science nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #208

Parties are democratic for their constituency. KitSileya Apr 2016 #245

Alas that is not the measure nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #253

Or simply pragmatic fact. But, wtf? Right? seabeyond Apr 2016 #256

Standards of clean and open and transparent nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #264

You are ignoring all fact to try and make the point work. It doesn't hold up. seabeyond Apr 2016 #266

You didn't address that person's point and just plowed straight ahead. It has nothing to do with stevenleser Apr 2016 #296

Apples and nuts nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #297

No, comparing general elections to party primaries is Apples and Nuts. Thanks for playing. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #306

Since I was not comparing a type nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #308

Oh I know very well what you were/are TRYING to do, and I also know why. stevenleser Apr 2016 #309

I still think your candidate, Senator Bernie Sanders, has a chance! zappaman Apr 2016 #210

Don't stop believing! !!! Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #216

Who the fuck appointed you to decide who is "our BEST Democrat?" 99Forever Apr 2016 #31

Actually the decision of who is the best Democrat to be our nominee griffi94 Apr 2016 #42

Annnnnnnnnd ..... there it is!!!! MADem Apr 2016 #48

All or nothing, my way or the highway Dem2 Apr 2016 #74

Yep. If you give them long enough, all the virtuous and COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #162

No one. Nor did I suggest it. Democrats voting in their Democratic primary will do the choosing. seabeyond Apr 2016 #97

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #45

I think that the party crashers should go do the work and form their own The Second Stone Apr 2016 #55

With party realignment that will happen nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #83

Since the Clintons and the DNC made the Democratic party a less malevolent version tabasco Apr 2016 #59

Too many think Democrat is a club and not a policy. kpola12 Apr 2016 #60

"Too many think Democrat is a club" The strong majority of Democrats disagree with you. seabeyond Apr 2016 #98

I have been told it is a club here on DU nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #113

Perhaps you should feel a little sheepish inchhigh Apr 2016 #65

So true Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #72

Why? Most of us are prepared with a "because" after "I want a Democratic president" lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #66

I suspect you don't read a lot of pro-Clinton posts. LAS14 Apr 2016 #247

You're silly. Hillary is the Queen of Shame and her followers are the Legion of Shame WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #80

Ah, insults. seabeyond Apr 2016 #100

Dude! Why do you get special treatment? No one else does. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #102

I don't know it Hillary has the empathy to feel shame. Her followers must speak for themselves. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #111

Seriously. When did we decide as a Democrat, I should feel shame, wanting a Democratic candidate? jmousso75 Apr 2016 #90

If one wants to have a say in who the Democratic candidate is they should register as a Democrat Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #106

K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #108

Since we have been infiltrated by corporate beholden operatives that pose as Democrats. insta8er Apr 2016 #109

Yada yada yada. seabeyond Apr 2016 #126

Lalalalalalalalalalalalllalalalal insta8er Apr 2016 #128

Exactly. Yadda yadda yadda. Nothing more. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #163

I honestly can't read past the word "corporate" anymore Recursion Apr 2016 #322

There's no reason party primaries shouldn't katsy Apr 2016 #112

That would be the democratic way to do it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #116

+1 katsy Apr 2016 #120

Absolutely nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #122

agreed obamanut2012 Apr 2016 #117

K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #125

Where do you get off callling only one of our candidates Democrats? Who appointed you? Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #127

Never. Any "shame" you feel is on you. SMC22307 Apr 2016 #132

Thank you. Maybe, you have explained it better than I did. I tried but, seemed to have failed. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #147

I just read your #75... SMC22307 Apr 2016 #156

Gosh. Thanks. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #191

All people should be able to vote for their preferred candidate. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #135

Parties are selecting party nominees. Gasp.... Not a tough concept. seabeyond Apr 2016 #139

You're right. It's not a tough concept and it works. But, it's not democratic. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #144

The Democratic Party I knew was not run by a neocon, corporate shill. awake Apr 2016 #136

And the Democrats vote. seabeyond Apr 2016 #140

Thoes who's registration has not been mysterisly changed that is awake Apr 2016 #145

God, Read up. The statistics have now been put out and almost COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #165

From what I had read, the only poor judgment or mishap was not kicking the 70k off previous election seabeyond Apr 2016 #171

Correct. But that won't stop them from bitching over and over COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #174

yadda yadda yadda. Yup. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #176

Rinse and repeat - ad nauseam. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #177

But, but, but!! MADem Apr 2016 #218

They're still deep in denial. Well, they've got until about 10:00 PM COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #287

When the democrat is bad for the country whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #142

Excellent question. It should never happen. KPN Apr 2016 #150

Depends if you want a DINO or a real liberal Democrat. B Calm Apr 2016 #153

Surely the Democrats get to decide the "DINO" thru our vote, right? seabeyond Apr 2016 #172

You mean the shitty fucking candidate our major democratic party is shoving down our throats? B Calm Apr 2016 #195

That the Democratic voters have voted on and is winning hands down. seabeyond Apr 2016 #219

Democrats should get to decide who the the Democratic nominee is Gothmog Apr 2016 #154

When you stopped looking at policy Arkana Apr 2016 #155

Insulting to suggest if one does not go with your candidate, we are simply not looking at policy. seabeyond Apr 2016 #173

rahrah, my team [label here] is the best! lakeguy Apr 2016 #159

The Democratic Party changed into something else in my lifetime Go Vols Apr 2016 #161

That is the point, though. I lot of us see that Hillary is not a "real" Democrat. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #166

And more of us disagree with you. Doesn't mean we open it up to have others decide, right? seabeyond Apr 2016 #175

Not sure I get what you're complaining about? Is it because Sanders runs as a D or that republicans Sunlei Apr 2016 #167

I think we are supposed to feel shame for wanting some one not anointed by the democratic party Autumn Apr 2016 #179

She is getting the votes. That isn't anointing. To want Sanders regardless of "We the people" would seabeyond Apr 2016 #182

No. The alternate universe would make sense. GeorgeGist Apr 2016 #184

When our Democratic party sold out to corporate interests and the top 0.1%. nt mhatrw Apr 2016 #187

Great question! mcar Apr 2016 #188

only on bernie underground. But that will end soon. Lil Missy Apr 2016 #211

I am trying to figure out the point of the OP. It seems like word salad to me. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #212

Over 200 hundred replies had no problem understanding the OP so I have to wonder about your ability seabeyond Apr 2016 #221

Just seems badly written that's all. Like I said, word salad. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #225

And again.... Whatever. seabeyond Apr 2016 #226

Don't take it personally. Here, have a cookie. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #232

I do not take it personally, and why the game? Think it makes you look clever? seabeyond Apr 2016 #237

There is no game, I just think the OP is poorly written. I told you that, you seemed upset. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #240

Have a cookie? seabeyond Apr 2016 #241

Well the PUMA stuff kinda did me in...I cannot take on faith something just because I want to. Rex Apr 2016 #220

Sanders is the PUMA of 2016. I put no concern in it in 2008 and I certainly don't now. seabeyond Apr 2016 #223

I refuse the 'both parties are the same' bullshit and the partisan infighting. Rex Apr 2016 #227

You are a hoot Rex. seabeyond Apr 2016 #228

Loveya sea! Rex Apr 2016 #231

Lets wait until the race is called, them we can talk "PUMA" or not, Sea. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #234

Sanders people meet the very definition of PUMA, Warren. And, I did not bring the word up. seabeyond Apr 2016 #235

"Sanders people" are not a monolith. Im a sanders person, and I've said up and down I'll support the Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #238

No, they are not Warren. Absolutely. None of us are regardless of our candidate. PUMA of 2008 seabeyond Apr 2016 #239

True. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #246

Well look at the results, even with PUMA...Obama became POTUS and HRC became SOS. Rex Apr 2016 #250

I totally agree. 2008 I didn't even know what they were. I heard comments, but I was focused on seabeyond Apr 2016 #255

I skipped out on the 2008 primary. Had to think about my blood pressure. Rex Apr 2016 #262

I agree. But, I was all the way an Obama supporter. Nt. seabeyond Apr 2016 #265

I think the PUMA phenomenon was overblown in 2008, and likewise Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #257

It looks like it. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #268

How about Port angeles? That or olympia. Which. I sure do like Port angeles. Lol. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #236

From what I've seen, it's all beautiful up there. Hard to go wrong, I think Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #244

True that. Thanks. I still have a year to decide, but thanks. I am really listening to people up seabeyond Apr 2016 #270

Yeah, were i am now is probably about the farthest ive lived from the ocean in most of my adult life Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #273

I agree totally. In Oregon, there is Cannon, Astoria, Coo Bay, but they seabeyond Apr 2016 #275

You'd have to deal with lot of hippies, in Eugene. But you get the Oregon Country Fair every summer Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #283

I am good with hippies. seabeyond Apr 2016 #285

You should only feel shame on how narrowly you define 'Democratic'. nt beedle Apr 2016 #222

But... You are truly limited in info to arrive at any kind of understanding how I define, shit. seabeyond Apr 2016 #224

Hey. I've read your posts, maybe your communication skills are just as limited beedle Apr 2016 #229

mmmmmmm, lol. seabeyond Apr 2016 #230

It would be a huge rebuilding job if the parties went away. LAS14 Apr 2016 #233

Sanders has started a revolution among young people. That will not just go away imo even if he loses Rex Apr 2016 #243

I'm glad for the young people Sanders has brought in. LAS14 Apr 2016 #251

Me too, we are the Democratic Party and should be bringing in the younger generations. Rex Apr 2016 #254

But lets not forget. Democrats ALWAYS attract youth in GE. This is not new. Sanders brought them seabeyond Apr 2016 #261

I know a lot of young women that cannot wait to vote, their first time Rex Apr 2016 #269

Exactly. I did not care who they are voting for, I want the enthusiasm, but I want it to go thru GE seabeyond Apr 2016 #274

My mom is excited, puts a smile on my face to see her so energized at 68. Rex Apr 2016 #280

Our primary is so long. Thankfully, the GE won't start up until about Sept.... and that is only seabeyond Apr 2016 #282

We will crush Dumpster Don and Cruz Missile! Rex Apr 2016 #284

I agree with you. They will try to make it a race, but I think it is the Democrats to lose. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #286

That is what I've been saying under my breath, figured the last few months might as well say it. Rex Apr 2016 #289

The alternate universe is the one where Hillary Clinton is a democrat basselope Apr 2016 #252

The alternate universe is the one where BERNIE is a democrat. Hillary has BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #293

Hillary a democrat??? basselope Apr 2016 #294

In the top 15% of most liberal in congress. seabeyond Apr 2016 #298

LOL. basselope Apr 2016 #300

Of course, the yada yada reply. seabeyond Apr 2016 #304

No, the truth. basselope Apr 2016 #310

No. Merely an opinion. seabeyond Apr 2016 #312

Sorry, but facts are facts. basselope Apr 2016 #313

my reply was not about that point. seabeyond Apr 2016 #314

Well.. that WAS the point. basselope Apr 2016 #315

"Clinton is no democrat. She is a republican. Just like her husband, just like Obama." seabeyond Apr 2016 #316

That is the fact that leads to the other fact. basselope Apr 2016 #317

Lordy. No. That is not a fact. Now. Done. seabeyond Apr 2016 #318

Of course it is. basselope Apr 2016 #319

It is astounding how ridiculous some (not all of course) of these Clinton supporters sound. JumpinJehosaphat Apr 2016 #259

Well. See. You are wrong. seabeyond Apr 2016 #277

You're backing a right-winger. Therefore, I and many others see you Broward Apr 2016 #272

Are you a member of the Democratic Party? imagine2015 Apr 2016 #303

Is that all? immoderate Apr 2016 #305

Wow Seabeyond, you really shook the hornets' nest. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #307

We're sure as shit in an alternate universe if you think HRC is our best Democrat. vintx Apr 2016 #311

Hillary is a fake dem, and you are too star struck to see it. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #321