2016 Postmortem

snowy owl

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18. Excellent point! That's really the big change. Manufacturing jobs - the average blue collar guy.

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Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:40 AM

Apr 2016

What's Clinton going to do for him?

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Why do white men support Bernie disproportionately? [View all] Onlooker Apr 2016 OP

Because they're fearful of a female President. nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #1

Yup just like people that vote for whistler162 Apr 2016 #57

Which is? rock Apr 2016 #88

Good point egalitegirl Apr 2016 #141

Am I reading this wrong? GulfCoast66 Apr 2016 #145

You have read the post that created whistler162 Apr 2016 #156

I didn't realize that Black voters that voted for Obama in 2008 were fearful LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #114

1) Sexism. This was the biggest one we were supposed to push. We had to smear Bernie as misogynistic insta8er Apr 2016 #150

LINK please. Gotta see the breakdown your referencing. snowy owl Apr 2016 #2

Link Onlooker Apr 2016 #4

C'mon. 50-49% by gender for Clinton. Overall, whites 54-45 Sanders. Minority vote - a problem. snowy owl Apr 2016 #12

Clinton did not get 50-49 by gender, unless you leave out ALL the votes of persons of color. nt pnwmom Apr 2016 #19

Wait now, are these the same exit polls that showed beedle Apr 2016 #96

This shows a fundamental misunderstanding of exit poll data. Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #135

Are you a white man? whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #3

Do Hillary supporters have "daddy issues"? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #5

Hope you were in a state that was going to go R/D no matter what in 2012. moriah Apr 2016 #7

I don't see where it says you have to vote for a Democrat in there. Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #8

I have the archaic notion that my vote belongs to me. Not to a candidate, party, or DU. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #9

You have every right to vote as you choose. moriah Apr 2016 #30

The notion of "third party spoilers" is way overblown. Garrett78 Apr 2016 #10

+1 Unicorn Apr 2016 #21

In Hillary World, everything has to be broken down into race because that's what defines us Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #6

That's true of BLM too Onlooker Apr 2016 #14

My daughters age 10 and 20 despise Hillary and cannot see her as a role insta8er Apr 2016 #17

Your 10 year old daughter despises Hillary? oberliner Apr 2016 #36

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Hey Kein, welcome to DU ~ HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #42

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So you joined DU, like an hour ago HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #44

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Glass house and all that. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #47

Gates and Jolie? That should tell you something right there. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #45

Tells me you could use to expand your reading list HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #48

I know how Gates got his money, do you? hobbit709 Apr 2016 #49

I know what Gates is doing with his money... HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #50

I hang with saints and sinners. Dealt with demons within and out. Purity test? hobbit709 Apr 2016 #51

Have we stop discussing Bill Gates? HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #53

Does that offset how he got his money? hobbit709 Apr 2016 #60

So if I understand you correctly... HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #65

Whoosh right over your head but to be expected. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #89

Clever thoughtful fact filled retort. HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #94

Read the last sentence of my sig line. Good bye hobbit709 Apr 2016 #95

Loved that...heard it took a few months to teach him ~ HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #99

I think you need to do some research on how these Beowulf Apr 2016 #80

Purity test check. nt HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #82

You need to read what progressive educators think Beowulf Apr 2016 #85

"You need to"... "You need to..." You folks say that a lot ~ HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #93

I would leave you to your delusions, Beowulf Apr 2016 #100

Shouldn't meet the purity test of any DUer...unless they love giant bloodsucking corporations... Human101948 Apr 2016 #54

... HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #58

How did Maggie Thatcher rate back in the day? n/t That Guy 888 Apr 2016 #87

Their surroundings? grossproffit Apr 2016 #40

Read my post. insta8er Apr 2016 #72

Your 10 year old daughter despises Hillary because of her position on fracking? oberliner Apr 2016 #78

My husband despises Bernie. So does my mother and stepfather. All of them vote. grossproffit Apr 2016 #39

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Good for you, I'm sad to see my 10 year old will have to deal with insta8er Apr 2016 #75

10 is too young to hate. hack89 Apr 2016 #98

10 years old, and staging an anti Trump "demonstration" last Saturday with her class mates. These insta8er Apr 2016 #122

By hating and despising Hillary Clinton? Ok. nt hack89 Apr 2016 #123

Despising you added the hating, a 10 year old can see what she stands for. To bad the insta8er Apr 2016 #124

Do you despise people that are good and who you admire? hack89 Apr 2016 #125

And you are going to tell me how i should raise my children? someone who supports a morally corrupt insta8er Apr 2016 #128

Yes - if you are raising your children to hate then I feel an obligation to say something. hack89 Apr 2016 #130

Thanks, I will have my children call out the corrupt and phony ones wherever they see them insta8er Apr 2016 #138

She thinks Trump is a little better than Hillary? oberliner Apr 2016 #159

Excellent post. Unicorn Apr 2016 #22

They don't do "policy". They market by skin tone and plumbing. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #117

Rehashing the Obamaboys talking points are we? Lancero Apr 2016 #11

White men are the only demographic that hasn't seen increased wages in the past 40 years Recursion Apr 2016 #13

Excellent point! That's really the big change. Manufacturing jobs - the average blue collar guy. snowy owl Apr 2016 #18

That's a good point ... Onlooker Apr 2016 #23

I get that sense too about the distrust Recursion Apr 2016 #24

Appealing to the self-interest of the most privileged group of people on the planet... Garrett78 Apr 2016 #90

This is a very good point. And there was also that study about suicide rates and YouDig Apr 2016 #52

We might not know how the average african-american lives, but we do know how our parents lived. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #108

The average working man has lost about 25% of his earnings since 1970. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #107

I suspect that Sanders supporters are more likely than Clinton supporters... Garrett78 Apr 2016 #15

Excellent points all! classof56 Apr 2016 #119

As a white man, I support the candidate least tolerant of war killbotfactory Apr 2016 #16

I don't get that either. Cold-war diplomacy. Minority and poor grandkids: get ready for war. snowy owl Apr 2016 #20

+ 10^6 n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #118

So we can agree that Hillary getting extra female support since she is female is just as bad as Unicorn Apr 2016 #25

Actually, your argument is a white rights type of argument ... Onlooker Apr 2016 #28

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Why do young people? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #26

Maybe we're not scared to back someone unconventional who makes ultimate sense and has the courage highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #27

JFK lost the female vote but won the male vote, I only mention that because JFK was mentioned braddy Apr 2016 #29

The Kennedy-Nixon numbers would surprise a lot of people oberliner Apr 2016 #160

I enjoy knowing things that fly in the face of what everyone knows, and there is so much of them. braddy Apr 2016 #162

so i guess you are also saying that eomen who support hillary PaulaFarrell Apr 2016 #31

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Aw. Welcome to DU! grossproffit Apr 2016 #34

In Kansas you wouldn't believe the amount of White Women who don't support Hillary Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #35

Wow. You speak for an entire state. Impressive. grossproffit Apr 2016 #70

I know where I live Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #136

Everybody I knew at the time voted for McGovern redstateblues Apr 2016 #105

Trashing Thread B Calm Apr 2016 #38

In NY maybe they like me didn't vote for a whistler162 Apr 2016 #55

I doubt they are sexist Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #56

The Clinton machine is really good at the Politics of Division Armstead Apr 2016 #59

So Hillary's greatest appeal to women is gender. That's exactly what I thought. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #61

Here's what jumps out at me Proud Public Servant Apr 2016 #62

And in the case of millenial POC forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #64

Exactly (nt) Proud Public Servant Apr 2016 #69

Sanders's demographic has, throughout history, done better than all the other demographics Squinch Apr 2016 #71

Largely agree, but I would parse it a bit differently Proud Public Servant Apr 2016 #73

I have no doubt YOUR sincere desire is to extend it to all people, but his insistence that only Squinch Apr 2016 #74

Median wages for men lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #106

Yep. This doesn't contradict what I have said. Squinch Apr 2016 #113

If "history" ends in 1972, then perhaps. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #116

The playing field is not level, but is more level. Men have fewer unearned advantages. So, yes, Squinch Apr 2016 #120

Excellent post. nt auntpurl Apr 2016 #86

Inherent fear of a powerful woman beachbum bob Apr 2016 #63

Your should send this to Comedy Central Armstead Apr 2016 #67

Nah. There are some out there for whom this is very true. You have to admit that. Squinch Apr 2016 #76

If that were the case, no men would ever get married Armstead Apr 2016 #79

That doesn't even make sense. Squinch Apr 2016 #81

Nor do you sometimes Armstead Apr 2016 #101

I think most of the men who "inherently fear a powerful woman" are probably voting Republican. Svafa Apr 2016 #134

Because Bernie's message is almost exclusively about economics... SidDithers Apr 2016 #66

I think an economic class based approach CAN win forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #97

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So I take it you won't be voting for her in the general. Squinch Apr 2016 #77

Probably because a disproportionate number of white women support Hillary randr Apr 2016 #83

because white men are bitter and sexist AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #84

'Registered Democratic White Men' actually. beedle Apr 2016 #103

Touch� whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #115

Has anyone thought support for Hillary is because kcjohn1 Apr 2016 #91

Sanders platform is specifically designed for white, men, middle and upper middle income. seabeyond Apr 2016 #92

not in my family. I support Bernie and husband supports HRC. He is a feminist. CTyankee Apr 2016 #142

Love you CT, thanks for sharing, and isn't that an hoot. seabeyond Apr 2016 #144

Maybe it's because so many women have "Daddy issues"?? dmosh42 Apr 2016 #102

There's a disproportionate versus proportionate #? Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #104

Ah! Another get out the vote post! actslikeacarrot Apr 2016 #109

Easy. bvf Apr 2016 #110

The Brock Meter is rising above a 100 today. 2banon Apr 2016 #111

Oh goody! It's been a while since we've had a Bernie is a racist thread. jillan Apr 2016 #112

If every candidate was substantively the same, then maybe you'd have a point. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #121

Because they are inherently bad somehow so Hillary is awesome. Throd Apr 2016 #126

Then a woman supporting Hillary is sexist WDIM Apr 2016 #127

I love the homophobia in the OP basselope Apr 2016 #129

Well not really. While I'm a bit surprised by the results whatthehey Apr 2016 #132

Seems more a prejudiced assumption basselope Apr 2016 #137

There are more whatthehey Apr 2016 #140

Not nearly enough data. basselope Apr 2016 #143

Seems like a bad guess to me, since Sanders is the one who first supported marriage equality. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #139

You don't know what homophobia is Onlooker Apr 2016 #149

Yes, I do. basselope Apr 2016 #152

Bullshit Onlooker Apr 2016 #153

Bull basselope Apr 2016 #154

Why are you assuming that they are all straight? Svafa Apr 2016 #131

One more nail in the coffin apcalc Apr 2016 #133

You'll never reach social equality without economic equality davidn3600 Apr 2016 #146

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I'm a white guy Urchin Apr 2016 #147

Sexism.nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #148

Unwillingness to vote for a corporatist warmonger, in my case Rob H. Apr 2016 #151

Do you mean white men who happen to be Democrats? jfern Apr 2016 #157

Because white males in the Democratic voting block are more liberal. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #158

Why do white men support Trump disproportionately? Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #161