2016 Postmortem

LAS14

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35. I wasn't talking about local and state.

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:10 AM

Apr 2016

Last edited Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:43 AM - Edit history (1)

Bernie wants $15 federal limit for all areas of the country (this includes any company that crosses state lines). Hillary wants a 12$ limit with the expectation that high cost of living areas will go higher. I would be delighted if we could make the base even higher. I trust (yes trust) the experts who have put a lot of effort into this to have proposed something that might be adopted. I confess. I think "the establishment" has a lot of really smart, dedicated, caring people in it. Along with, of course, the greedy, hostile, self-involved people we all know about.

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Why would we want a law which required... [View all] LAS14 Apr 2016 OP

Is one to understand that edgineered Apr 2016 #1

Thanks for the heads up. I edited for more clarity. LAS14 Apr 2016 #3

Your republican point is noted. HERVEPA Apr 2016 #2

See my edit, in case you misunderstood. LAS14 Apr 2016 #5

A little better, but $12/hour is too low anywhere HERVEPA Apr 2016 #21

$12 an hour would be Fat City in half of Idaho jmowreader Apr 2016 #31

No it wouldn't. It wouldn't be Fat City anywhere. HERVEPA Apr 2016 #32

Thank you, and no it wouldnt. It would if you think owning a microwave makes you Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #52

Yes, of course it wouldn't. HERVEPA Apr 2016 #53

400 Americans have as much as 150 million combined. This does not happen Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #54

Never lived in Idaho? jmowreader Apr 2016 #56

$24,000 a year is good money nowhere in this country. HERVEPA Apr 2016 #57

The MEDIAN wage where I live is about $13/hr.... Adrahil Apr 2016 #65

So the concept of minimum is as confusing to you catnhatnh Apr 2016 #4

I care too. See my edit. LAS14 Apr 2016 #6

Of course the cost of living is different in different places, but $15/hr is nowhere near what you cui bono Apr 2016 #17

re: "limit big cities to the wages of rural America" Electric Monk Apr 2016 #7

Or states from enacting higher minimum wage laws. cui bono Apr 2016 #20

See my edits on OP. But to your point. Of course... LAS14 Apr 2016 #34

You need to think a little more. The federal minimum wage law Sanders favors Vattel Apr 2016 #8

I wasn't talking about local and state. LAS14 Apr 2016 #35

That is not correct. Vattel Apr 2016 #43

Oh. Well, I guess that makes sense. LAS14 Apr 2016 #44

You DO understand that all federal laws pertaining to labor angstlessk Apr 2016 #9

Now that is a new one, I have worked for a small company, ran a small company and the Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #11

How many employees and how much did the company make? angstlessk Apr 2016 #16

Three employees and about $125,000 Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #23

Well that company is exempt unless it does business with the federal government angstlessk Apr 2016 #24

First of all, I would have never thought about paying less than $7.25 and I did not pay less. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #25

Fine, but you could have paid less thasn the federal minimum wage..n/t angstlessk Apr 2016 #26

I note your first post said you worked for that company, now you are saying it was your company.... Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #45

You need to go back and read it again, I am not playing a game. Two different companies Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #47

Not sure why you wouldn't read properly anigbrowl Apr 2016 #60

So you thought that the employees who kmade you a profit... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #29

Bye Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #51

Your answer reflects your attitude towards workers... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #55

You don't have any idea, a job steward for 31 years, yes I care about workers, don't Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #58

I do, but the federal minimum has a ripple effect. LAS14 Apr 2016 #36

because it's the right thing to do. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #10

KNR Lucinda Apr 2016 #12

To your point, in labor contracts which has many cities and all states it was the standard Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #13

To stop poor states from poaching employers from rich states Recursion Apr 2016 #14

Apparently you do not understand that "minimum" is not "maximum". jeff47 Apr 2016 #15

See my edit. LAS14 Apr 2016 #37

Your edit does not change your erroneous position. jeff47 Apr 2016 #46

Because we're fucking Democrats for Dog's sake. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #18

Indeed RobertEarl Apr 2016 #22

+1 Seriously, what's next, attacking the free lunch program for schools? FSogol Apr 2016 #40

There is nothing stopping states from enacting their own minimum wage laws that are higher cui bono Apr 2016 #19

I meant, of course, limit those businesses... LAS14 Apr 2016 #38

Who is limiting anyone? There is no limit. There is just a basic safety net wage. cui bono Apr 2016 #59

In the distant past I worked for a large national corporation SheilaT Apr 2016 #27

What logic Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #28

Raising wages doesn't "wreak havoc" on small towns AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #30

see edit on op LAS14 Apr 2016 #39

I've edited the post. LAS14 Apr 2016 #33

So basically you have no argument against Bernie's plan. beedle Apr 2016 #41

Well, I do have a difference. LAS14 Apr 2016 #42

Why? What made you decide $12 is enough? n/t cui bono Apr 2016 #61

I agree Dem2 Apr 2016 #48

You say "a world where we all pay enough for our hamburgers that all the workers can support a Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #49

Do cars cost the same in Bethel, Maine as they do in NYC? How about refrigerators? Microwaves? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #50

No probably not anigbrowl Apr 2016 #62

OK, I was wrong. Sort of. LAS14 Apr 2016 #63

This is actually uncontroversial, and it's been the policy approach for awhile. joshcryer Apr 2016 #64