2016 Postmortem

R. Daneel Olivaw

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137. I provide facts. You provide conjecture.

Reply to oberliner (Reply #132)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:34 PM

Apr 2016

Same as it always was.

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Hillary Clinton is holding a campaign fundraiser in Israel next month [View all] kgnu_fan Apr 2016 OP

You realize that'll be with American citizens? brooklynite Apr 2016 #1

LOL! Care to explain who these Americans are R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #8

Remember when the Sanders folks were all excited about winning DEMOCRATS ABROAD? brooklynite Apr 2016 #9

I'm questioning the Hilly campaign rocking it in the Apartheid state known as Israel. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #13

Is "Apartheid State" a Sanders campaign term? brooklynite Apr 2016 #31

It's the reality that you can't seem to stomach. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #42

You didn't question Sanders when he was rocking it w/the homophobic Pope. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #57

Was Sanders holding a campaign fundraiser with the Pope? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #66

He raised money from the visit. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #90

Since you brought it up let me ask that again. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #94

Completely irrational comparison. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #75

What if he did? brooklynite Apr 2016 #76

A lot of Americans live abroad treestar Apr 2016 #64

Sure they do. How many of them are illegally colonizing the West Bank, though. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #67

None as those in israel are not treestar Apr 2016 #68

That's such nice conjecture on your part. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #71

You are repeating a lie oberliner Apr 2016 #82

Whose campaign is holding the fundraiser, Sherlock? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #96

You wrote: "Perhaps some if them will be fawning over Hilly when she arrives fir her gala." oberliner Apr 2016 #106

Perhaps not in person but definately in checkbook. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #118

Facial tissue? oberliner Apr 2016 #131

So they are not in Israel treestar Apr 2016 #115

Let's break this down so you might try and understand. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #125

Why don't you post in the I/P forum? oberliner Apr 2016 #133

Why don't you take yer ball and run home? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #138

Wonderful, hope she enjoy her time in the Land of Milk and Honey! tritsofme Apr 2016 #2

She's not going...like she didn't go to Hong Kong. brooklynite Apr 2016 #32

Are they massively weathly like her average fundraiser audience? Unicorn Apr 2016 #120

Well, seeing how cozy she is with apartheid Likud R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #3

Apartheid was in South Africa Tarc Apr 2016 #6

you realize 'aparthied' is a word with a meaning beedle Apr 2016 #7

I think most readers can parse my sentence quite easily, thanks Tarc Apr 2016 #11

So the difference is? beedle Apr 2016 #12

Building a wall to keep acts of terrorism at bay is not apartheid Tarc Apr 2016 #24

That's exactly what it is ... beedle Apr 2016 #34

You can keep swinging and a'missin all day if you like Tarc Apr 2016 #43

OFFS beedle Apr 2016 #50

Jury results pintobean Apr 2016 #59

Thank you jury. beedle Apr 2016 #60

you think personal attacks are OK? Mosby Apr 2016 #80

I think standing against bigotry beedle Apr 2016 #88

saying that there is no aparthied in israel and the west bank Mosby Apr 2016 #91

And any of that is different to what was going on in South Africa exactly how? beedle Apr 2016 #92

Poor, poor mosby. Are your thoughts on autopilot tonight? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #101

Palestinians in the West Bank are treated as slaves? oberliner Apr 2016 #107

When they're not treated like moving targets. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #119

In the West Bank? oberliner Apr 2016 #130

LOL! So Israelis squatting on Palestinian land have rights, but R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #98

They both have a claim to the territory Tarc Apr 2016 #111

The Israeli land grab position is built on a mountain of bullshit. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #122

And that's your excuse for Palestinian terrorism Tarc Apr 2016 #124

Thanks for acknowledging your part. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #127

You say that like it's a bad thing Tarc Apr 2016 #135

I guess that somebody might find Israeli apartheid attractive in the same way that R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author Tarc Apr 2016 #37

+1000 grossproffit Apr 2016 #16

You might want to drop a note to Carter that he should not use that term nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #18

Jimmy Carter is otherwise an reputable individual, but Tarc Apr 2016 #20

Actuyally he is not the only one nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #26

Carter didn't say what you think he said. Mosby Apr 2016 #79

I love the smell of desperate hasbara. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #19

Perhaps the Palestinians should stop committing acts of terrorism to advance their cause Tarc Apr 2016 #22

Actually almost insignificant compared to the war crimes committed by the right wing Israelis Human101948 Apr 2016 #54

Israelis do not blow up outdoor cafes, or busses Tarc Apr 2016 #58

You really do buy into the propaganda... Human101948 Apr 2016 #61

I have no issue at all with any of Israel's actions in those circumstances Tarc Apr 2016 #63

So you think that a military slaughtering civlians en mass is perfectly acceptable then? Lancero Apr 2016 #81

"a military slaughtering civlians en mass" oberliner Apr 2016 #83

They killed over a thousand civilians. Lancero Apr 2016 #100

That's true oberliner Apr 2016 #104

No, but that's not what actually happened, Mr. Hyperbole Tarc Apr 2016 #89

Except you did just say that you found nothing wrong with their actions... Lancero Apr 2016 #99

Oh, but they do bomb children in a beach and snipe them in the back. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #102

`Fraid not Tarc Apr 2016 #112

Oh, such sand you bury your head in my poor little ostritch. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #123

R. Daniel Olivaw is one of the best posters! I click on his posts ever time. broiles Apr 2016 #129

What would you advise them to do? deathrind Apr 2016 #55

There is not a single Israeli or Jew in the Gaza Strip oberliner Apr 2016 #85

I'm so happy that you can regugitate RE talking points WRT Israel's shitty human rights policies. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #21

The Palestinians commit acts of terrorism on a daily basis Tarc Apr 2016 #25

That's strange. I made no mention of the wall, but thank you for bring g it up. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #30

Lot of typos there, are you feeling ok? Little agitated? Tarc Apr 2016 #35

Cute. I can correct my typos. How easily will you R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #44

Israel is not responsible for the acts committed by or creation of terrorist organization, sorry Tarc Apr 2016 #47

Keep on burying your head lil ostritch. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #139

Cool story, bro Tarc Apr 2016 #140

Best one around when I can laugh at others overt bigotry. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #141

Like your anti-Israeli sentiment? Tarc Apr 2016 #142

What's even better is I get to laugh at their half-baked fantasy as well. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #143

And I can only feel pity for someone who hates Israelis so much, yet... Tarc Apr 2016 #144

I also love how the poor dears believe their own propaganda. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #145

Yep, a good ol a.s. to the end Tarc Apr 2016 #146

And when they know that they are losing their argument R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #147

No the term is used because Israel has 2 different sets of laws azurnoir Apr 2016 #27

The West Bank & Gaza are not a part of Israel, thus those there do not have Israeli rights Tarc Apr 2016 #29

the Israeli's living in the West Bank are not citizens of the land they occupy azurnoir Apr 2016 #36

Marriage does not confer automatic citizenship Tarc Apr 2016 #45

laws prevent residence I never said anything about citizenship azurnoir Apr 2016 #49

Just because we use the word Kleenex, doesn't artislife Apr 2016 #41

Zing! artislife Apr 2016 #40

This one ridiculed people for discussing a "white noise generator", until it was proven to exist. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #51

A slug beedle Apr 2016 #53

Apartheid exists in Israel, and the West Bank, but I do appreciate R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #15

Exactly. But no Clinton supporter will ever admit that ... bjo59 Apr 2016 #28

Winner! Winner! Chicken dinner! R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #39

She will ignore blood and tear of Palestinians kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #4

Yes of course the evil Clinton Dem2 Apr 2016 #38

Hope Bernie does the same. emulatorloo Apr 2016 #5

End the occupation! That is what Hillary needs to say. kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #10

Without the "occupation," Igel Apr 2016 #17

It's not occupation. It's forced colinization of Palestinian lands. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #23

Sanders would disagree. grossproffit Apr 2016 #33

I don't care. I'm not married to every opinion R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #48

The Israelis pulled out of Gaza in 2005 Tarc Apr 2016 #73

Gaza under occupation. Some of you need to learn what is going on. kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #74

there are no Israelis in Gaza Mosby Apr 2016 #84

too many ignorant people .... kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #87

Excuse me? You are saying - end the occupation of Palestine and that's why Hillary needs to stay? Unicorn Apr 2016 #121

Wonderful! grossproffit Apr 2016 #14

That's a lie oberliner Apr 2016 #46

Americans living in Israel = West Bank squatters. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #65

That's also a lie oberliner Apr 2016 #70

Since they believe that "Clinton isn't a Democrat" you can understand their confusion... brooklynite Apr 2016 #77

Oh, I never mentioned the percentage, ober, but how nice of you obfuscate. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #97

You wrote "Americans living in Israel = West Bank squatters" oberliner Apr 2016 #105

And again, thanks for the attempt at blowing smoke rings. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #117

OK oberliner Apr 2016 #132

I provide facts. You provide conjecture. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #137

Neocons gotta neocon Califonz Apr 2016 #52

Do people over there like her? I mean her likeability is the lowest ever recorded for a Democratic pdsimdars Apr 2016 #56

Seeing how Sanders is rather hostile to Israel and more sympathetic to the Palestinians Tarc Apr 2016 #72

HOW is she getting there???? tabasco Apr 2016 #62

She is not going oberliner Apr 2016 #69

LOL JackRiddler Apr 2016 #78

I bet she won't even see the Pope. hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #86

Who is going to pay for her plane fare???!!!! jillan Apr 2016 #93

She is not going oberliner Apr 2016 #108

I guess she will go there to explain why she authorized the largest arms insta8er Apr 2016 #95

She is not going there oberliner Apr 2016 #109

Overseas fundraisers less likely to be scrutized for "irregularities", i.e., cheating Divernan Apr 2016 #103

Both Clinton and Sanders have gotten significant contributions from Democrats living abroad oberliner Apr 2016 #110

So corrupt... kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #113

Once and for all: this is a fundraiser conducted by Americans living in Israel onenote Apr 2016 #114

Clinton campaign caught cheating in 2007-8 in these fundraisers Divernan Apr 2016 #116

The most telling part of the video... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #126

GOOD! I like a President who stands with the majority of Americans (by 4:1 ratios) ericson00 Apr 2016 #128

kick kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #134