2016 Postmortem

artislife

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73. They will live and learn.

Reply to Svafa (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:53 PM

Apr 2016

Oh well, if I cared about them it would matter. But I don't.

Not anymore.

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It's About The Independents, Stupid! [View all] berni_mccoy Apr 2016 OP

Yep. KPN Apr 2016 #1

I think a lot of Clinton people don't think that that will happen, Svafa Apr 2016 #4

Clinton fans think that the rest of us will knuckle under like good authoritarians followers. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #7

Well said! KPN Apr 2016 #8

They are short-sighted. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #11

But not blind. "It's about the liberals, stupid." Hortensis Apr 2016 #59

They will live and learn. artislife Apr 2016 #73

Come on. Trump's negatives are higher than every candidate. And indies come in all stripes brush Apr 2016 #26

I don't waste my breath nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #2

Well, it's not about the South, NE, mid-west, or...... NCTraveler Apr 2016 #3

In past elections millions of eligible voters stayed home because they figured it was rhett o rick Apr 2016 #15

Have at it. Good luck tomorrow. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #18

I've yet to see a Hillary Bumper Sticker here HockeyMom Apr 2016 #5

We're not amazing with bumper stickers or lawn signs. auntpurl Apr 2016 #17

And consistently.nt Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #25

President Hillary Clinton 2008...and again, 2012 islandmkl Apr 2016 #58

Can bumperstickers vote? leftynyc Apr 2016 #21

I don't know people in parking lots or on the road HockeyMom Apr 2016 #22

Clinton 64.4% - Sanders 33.3% GulfCoast66 Apr 2016 #82

Just read another post oldandhappy Apr 2016 #6

This is the post. Search DU for 'The growing myth of the �independent� voter' oldandhappy Apr 2016 #12

If we could see past all the illusion felix_numinous Apr 2016 #9

Obama lost the Independent vote in nearly every swing state in 2012. Garrett78 Apr 2016 #10

Obama got 50% of Independants in Florida in 2012. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #19

I had read that NC was the only swing state in which he won the Independent vote. Garrett78 Apr 2016 #49

I agree completely /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #13

They ignore independents and ignore voting irregularities. Failure to see the big picture is not jillan Apr 2016 #14

Winning the GE is a secondary goal. They must defeat progressivism at all costs. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #16

You are correct. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #20

Exactly. And the Clinton fans are oblivious to this. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #54

this is the essence of it amborin Apr 2016 #23

"They prefer Hillary but would settle for Trump over Sanders." zappaman Apr 2016 #53

I've seen DWS do it in Florida. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #56

You seem to be ignoring that all independents are not of the same political stripe. brush Apr 2016 #28

It would be good if we were all of the same political stripe nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #80

I corrected my headline to read "not of the same political stripe". brush Apr 2016 #85

exactly Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #24

Obama won without independents or white males. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #27

Not in 2008. He won Independents by a wide margin berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #31

Bernie has not been swiftboated by the GOP Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #29

Clinton will get the Independent. Clinton will not get the bagger and Libertarians. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #30

keep dreaming. berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #32

Betcha. seabeyond Apr 2016 #42

Given the choice between a Democrat who acts like a Republican AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #33

Obama won without winning independents ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #35

Hillary isn't Obama AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #36

He won independents in 2008 by a wide margin berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #37

I think there's a good reason for that. ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #38

He still didn't lose independents berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #40

what are you basing that on? ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #50

really?..yeah, two White Houses which is a hell of an accomplishment... islandmkl Apr 2016 #61

We're talking about a presidential election, no? ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #76

Okay... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #87

Clinton is in the top 15% most liberal. seabeyond Apr 2016 #43

How can that be true AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #46

Because you make up stories to allow you not to see the truth. seabeyond Apr 2016 #47

Is she liberal on Fracking? AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #48

Yes yes yes yes yes no. seabeyond Apr 2016 #69

That's a reflection of how RW politicians have gone. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #51

Yada Yada Yada. seabeyond Apr 2016 #70

in a 20-foot barrel of crap...just where does that place her? islandmkl Apr 2016 #62

Top 15% of congress. seabeyond Apr 2016 #71

i rest my case...thanks islandmkl Apr 2016 #72

Whatever.... seabeyond Apr 2016 #74

That's because they only look at legislation that comes up for a voter eridani Apr 2016 #84

There are different types of independents. ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #34

we've 'won' 16 years of Presidency in the past 24 years...a hell of an accomplishment... islandmkl Apr 2016 #68

well we are talking about the presidential race after all. not congress or governorships. ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #77

Are we in the Independent Underground or the Democratic Underground? Tarc Apr 2016 #39

If he can win the general election where she can't it does fucking matter berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #41

The Raptors are currently locked in a tough battle with the Pacers Tarc Apr 2016 #44

Even if a Dem candidate had 100% votes of Democrats... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #57

You don't get promoted to the varsity team if you can't cut it at the JV Tarc Apr 2016 #60

He's been in Congress and Senate for decades... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #65

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #45

Lets face it artislife Apr 2016 #75

Hillary is a big bucket of corruption Rass Apr 2016 #52

the nomination does not mean SHIT. IF HILLARY LOSES! go bernie!!! pansypoo53219 Apr 2016 #55

The claim that Sanders would do well with independents is wrong-Sanders has not been vetted Gothmog Apr 2016 #63

Supporters of a candidate currently under a FBI criminal investigation... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #66

Democrats would be insane to nominate Sanders Gothmog Apr 2016 #64

A Person applied for a job with a company. Rilgin Apr 2016 #88

It's about the Independents... Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #67

Not only that but it's about the swing independents in the swing states. ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #78

I am a registered democrat since Obama - TBF Apr 2016 #79

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #81

Sanders supporters who are Democrats proobably would vote for Clinton. The trouble is that-- eridani Apr 2016 #83

Almost matches what I have heard in the field. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #86