2016 Postmortem

Recursion

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67. You know fracking reduces emissions, right?

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:57 PM

Apr 2016

I mean, you are aware of that, I hope, since you seem to care about this? Natural gas burns cleaner than coal. Fracking is a large part of why our emissions are falling at the rate they are.

TPP all but guarantees environmental degradation.

Ummm.... no, it puts stronger environmental standards in place in most of its signatories than they currently have.

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Okay Wall St. Looks like you have your country back....Phew that was a scare [View all] Armstead Apr 2016 OP

Maybe just merge mooseprime Apr 2016 #1

Yes, a corporate merger, perfect! dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #9

Republicrats Inc. 2banon Apr 2016 #78

Someone should make a meme out of it! dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #79

Done LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #99

No they will never do that arikara Apr 2016 #21

Wonder how many more election cycles before they finally pull the thick woolen veil off their eyes? 2banon Apr 2016 #77

They'll keep us divided over social issues. OnionPatch Apr 2016 #104

Exactly arikara Apr 2016 #106

They already did that. The result was the "Third Way," aka DLC, aka Blue Dog Dems. senz Apr 2016 #45

Looks like the Democratic establishment could readily slice off PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #49

Not all progressives support sanders...either way as a Democrat beachbum bob Apr 2016 #2

Won't be my mission...I'll hold my nose and pull the D lever but that's it Armstead Apr 2016 #3

Wall street thanks you. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #4

.that^ 840high Apr 2016 #29

You're a better person then me. I'll vote down ticket. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #8

Not better....Self preservation. The only thing that depresses me more than the.... Armstead Apr 2016 #39

I want ACA Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #72

Amen. babylonsister Apr 2016 #12

I chose that avatar with a certain sense of irony.....Alas it's deja vu Armstead Apr 2016 #41

I'm done giving the DNC license to abuse me. No, she won't get my vote. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #6

Make it clear you mean "in the primary." senz Apr 2016 #40

After all, you do have your pride. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #51

"Progressives" another term that became co-opted by the Third Way 2banon Apr 2016 #82

Trump or Cruz are way more likely now TransitJohn Apr 2016 #84

If you support Clinton then by definition you are not a progressive. Progressives do not support rhett o rick Apr 2016 #103

Apparently things are looking up for the Democratic Party despite the nay-sayers. randome Apr 2016 #5

Not likely, no dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #14

Same thing may happen to millennials that happened to liberals in the 90's Armstead Apr 2016 #18

Sure, that COULD happen. OTOH, maybe things won't turn out as Dystopian as you think. randome Apr 2016 #19

Right now I'm just so depressed and angry that I'm not going to think in any long term... Armstead Apr 2016 #26

Hey ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #52

How can we help her be a better president? Punkingal Apr 2016 #27

Pay for massive psychotherapy and spiritual advising? senz Apr 2016 #32

Hi Senz! Punkingal Apr 2016 #53

I shudder when I think of what it would do to the American people. senz Apr 2016 #55

Well, we could stop insulting people like senz does down below. randome Apr 2016 #38

Good. Better than some loon who wants to.. Kang Colby Apr 2016 #7

No way it would be a 50 bps tax. Lucky Luciano Apr 2016 #33

5 would be too much uponit7771 Apr 2016 #43

Bad news hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #93

I just love complaints from the priveldged on this board. 2banon Apr 2016 #81

That term is not appropriate here. Please review the rules. 2banon Apr 2016 #83

As long as you get yours, then TransitJohn Apr 2016 #85

There are people here who believe gunz are "progressive." Term is misused. Hoyt Apr 2016 #10

Is there anyone here so DUMB to think a D- NRA rating means pro-gunz? senz Apr 2016 #13

You miss my point, but you sound a bit sensitive about his position. Hoyt Apr 2016 #16

No, I'm sick of the lies, that's all. senz Apr 2016 #28

D- is a passing grade and its horrible! Way to go with being in with this horrible organization SBS uponit7771 Apr 2016 #44

Okay, let's ask one of our favorite presidents ... senz Apr 2016 #48

Clinton gets an F from the NRA something the uber "progressive" Sanders can't say uponit7771 Apr 2016 #63

Bernie is only slightly more moderate on guns than Clinton.... Armstead Apr 2016 #15

My point is the term "progressive " is often misused. Yelling at the sky won't Hoyt Apr 2016 #17

That seems to be about the only option Armstead Apr 2016 #20

You have my empathy, supported George McGovern and really wanted george war bush beaten in 2004. Hoyt Apr 2016 #23

In a nutshell AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #22

Fuck Wall Street senz Apr 2016 #11

There are only two separate branches of one corporate entity. Skwmom Apr 2016 #24

War wins again... actslikeacarrot Apr 2016 #25

Ya, but it will never be the same. Its been Berned and the scortch marks will remain! n/t Peregrine Took Apr 2016 #30

Our country is now officially fucked on climate change riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #31

Oh don't you know? She just mouthed nearly all of Bernie's talking points in a speech. senz Apr 2016 #34

If moving towards Bernie's position was a condition for his support, oasis Apr 2016 #35

Words....They go in one ear and out the otehr...In the GE she'll be back to Ms. Centrist Armstead Apr 2016 #36

If Bernie agrees with you then he should say he won't support her. oasis Apr 2016 #42

I think he'll support her.....but in his Bernie way Armstead Apr 2016 #46

If it's anything less than a full throated endorsement, oasis Apr 2016 #50

He -- and I (and many others) -- still believe those issues are vital to keep pressing on them Armstead Apr 2016 #57

Thanks for confirming your passive aggressive intentions here. 2banon Apr 2016 #90

Got Bait? 2banon Apr 2016 #88

Do you even know what it is you're supporting for the presidency? senz Apr 2016 #37

I know I'm supporting a candidate who knows what she wants oasis Apr 2016 #47

What she wants is money and power senz Apr 2016 #54

I want a Democrat in the White House and she's the ticket. oasis Apr 2016 #56

Third Way isn't Democrat. senz Apr 2016 #59

Don't feel guilty -- you did a lot Armstead Apr 2016 #58

For days I'd been wanting to put together OPs on the subject senz Apr 2016 #60

"There is a huge lie floating out there..." 2banon Apr 2016 #89

Deep. frylock Apr 2016 #65

omg. 2banon Apr 2016 #87

I don't see how she could be all Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #61

What are you talking about? We've reduced our emissions by more than our Kyoto target Recursion Apr 2016 #62

Being "more aggressive" than Obama is laughable. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #64

You know fracking reduces emissions, right? Recursion Apr 2016 #67

And fracking has an unpleasant tendency to destroy ground water riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #70

It does, but the question was climate change Recursion Apr 2016 #71

ooohkay, you don't think fracking plays its part in that equation? riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #73

Sure, fracking clearly reduces emissions Recursion Apr 2016 #74

Whoosh... I'm not talking emissions. I'm talking aquifers. nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #75

Sure, it's awful for aquifers. And earthquakes. But the question above was about climate change Recursion Apr 2016 #76

Climate change for those unable to live in OK riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #80

Yes, and atmospheric CO2 is now growing at 3+ ppm/yr, not 2+ (around 408-410 now) hatrack Apr 2016 #66

Well, talk to Chindia about that Recursion Apr 2016 #68

Yes, if it's emitted by China or India, it wont affect us hatrack Apr 2016 #91

What a weird claim. Of course it will affect us. Do you not know that? Recursion Apr 2016 #94

You might want to recalibrate your sarc-meter hatrack Apr 2016 #96

Yeah, that coal we're not burning gets exported to countries who do burn it. arcane1 Apr 2016 #102

The fight for progressive reform will continue. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #69

Since the term "Progressive" has been co-opted by Third Way to mean Third Way 2banon Apr 2016 #86

In their world "progressive" means making sure big insurance gets a piece of the health care pie. Vinca Apr 2016 #92

Exactly. n/t 2banon Apr 2016 #95

How about Commie? Armstead Apr 2016 #100

Yep felix_numinous Apr 2016 #97

Bwah. I wish that weren't true. bigwillq Apr 2016 #98

Looks that way. While social issues will be the main reason liberals must vote for her Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #101

The choice is between Trump and Goldman Sachs. ozone_man Apr 2016 #105