2016 Postmortem

The Velveteen Ocelot

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127. Clinton's candidacy.

Reply to reddread (Original post)

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:28 PM

Apr 2016

But that's just being flip. As to specific things I'd say it's the heavy thumb of DWS on the DNC's scale.

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in retrospect, what has been the low point of this primary? [View all] reddread Apr 2016 OP

The pointed use of racial politics by the Clinton campaign to disparage Sanders.[n/t] Maedhros Apr 2016 #1

The Worst of the Worst noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #3

Right up there with Willy Horton.[n/t] Maedhros Apr 2016 #4

Or WillyT. JTFrog Apr 2016 #23

heh. nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #66

I'm glad you referenced that. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #67

so you call him WillyH .... Hiraeth Apr 2016 #123

So does this mean you are defending his racist Stockholm Syndrome post? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #138

I know one thing, Hiraeth Apr 2016 #139

Thank you ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #141

Or down there, Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #196

Low information voters, Stockholm Syndrome, Southern states don't matter KittyWampus Apr 2016 #13

Southern states have "master/slave" mentality emulatorloo Apr 2016 #58

But it was okay when they had the same mentality to Iowa, Vermont etc artislife Apr 2016 #109

Don't forget, "when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about ... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #162

At every turn and every opportunity. nt cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #31

I second this but add a little extra GummyBearz Apr 2016 #49

I'd pretend that as well... it allows us the creative pretense of oppression. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #126

Yesterday's post yearning for Hillary's indictment Hortensis Apr 2016 #72

Yearning for an indictment on charges of which she very well may be guilty Maedhros Apr 2016 #75

The indictment fairy. Lil Missy Apr 2016 #113

Lol. More like the indictment evil warlock. Hortensis Apr 2016 #145

First answer is the thread winner farleftlib Apr 2016 #78

That for sure Armstead Apr 2016 #100

I thought that was very unfair Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #114

My jaw dropped when I was told that it didn't matter if he walked with MLK fasttense Apr 2016 #129

"when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. " uponit7771 Apr 2016 #161

Hillary's refusal to drop out while facing investigations, for the good of the party, takes it silvershadow Apr 2016 #2

Hillary trolls shutting down facebook groups by spamming with child-porn AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #5

yes. That was probably the lowest that I've seen ANY dana_b Apr 2016 #10

AND getting PAID for doing so AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #14

I don't want to just put you on Ignore, but... moriah Apr 2016 #20

I believe there has been a photo with Hillary ....... peace13 Apr 2016 #213

Yeah, that didn't happen, but you go on and believe whatever helps you sleep at night. nt JTFrog Apr 2016 #18

Guess you didn't hear that Facebook itself said that it was a technical glitch and . . . brush Apr 2016 #82

A porn spamming glitch that only took down Sanders groups? AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #144

Did you not read what I wrote? It wasn't only Sanders pages. brush Apr 2016 #146

Bernie using the Vatican and Pope for a political stunt photo op itsrobert Apr 2016 #6

Yeah nolawarlock Apr 2016 #68

The obsessive attention to the Vatican Visit was a comedic lown point Armstead Apr 2016 #105

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #175

Berniebros attacking multiple civil rights icons. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #7

Translation: Sanders marched with MLK whilest Hillary was working to get Goldwater elected AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #15

Translation: Bernie gets the shit beat out of him by Hillary with minorities.... LexVegas Apr 2016 #22

"Pandering, lying bullshit"...Ever heard of Projection? Look it up. KeepItReal Apr 2016 #53

This. This. This. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #205

The information theft by the Sanders campaign CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #8

...that never materialized... AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #17

We'll never know, sadly. CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #21

Bernie fired them for a reason. n/t emulatorloo Apr 2016 #56

The "speech" that Sanders just gave. grossproffit Apr 2016 #9

He was an angry bird. CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #24

That hotsauce thing... ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #11

MSM pretending Senator Sanders was not real. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #12

The disgusting attacks on civil rights leaders and others who dare endorse Hillary. JTFrog Apr 2016 #16

Which civil rights leader was criticized just for endorsing her? NT Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #189

the alert stalking in the African American Group- all the rude assessments of the intellect or bettyellen Apr 2016 #19

+1 itsrobert Apr 2016 #25

That ticks most of my boxes too. wildeyed Apr 2016 #47

Well said. emulatorloo Apr 2016 #55

yeah, the hosts here have been bullied to the brink by libertarians who had an active dislike bettyellen Apr 2016 #62

I don't think Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #116

Bernie is a progressive in the true sense. Isn't it normal for you to find that intimidating I guess snowy owl Apr 2016 #130

"Why is it bad to acknowledge" the rampant harassment of women and POC here IS a real problem? bettyellen Apr 2016 #131

In the eyes of the beholder I guess. Harassment of women? I don't see it. snowy owl Apr 2016 #140

and the harassment of POC- not worth you addressing? Noted. bettyellen Apr 2016 #143

No, I haven't noted that either. Perhaps you're overly sensitive. POC treated like everybody else. snowy owl Apr 2016 #150

Well you are ignorant to what has gone on in the AA forum, but I assure you, I am not. bettyellen Apr 2016 #151

So I disagree so am ignorant. hahaha. Spoken like a true Clinton supporter. snowy owl Apr 2016 #153

You said more than once you did not know- yet discount what I say. So you admittedly spoke from bettyellen Apr 2016 #187

Women. Hillary Supporters. People of Color. AA. sheshe2 Apr 2016 #155

No, I haven't. HRC claims victimhood. Maybe that's prevalent on your side. snowy owl Apr 2016 #157

You have a link to where she claims victim hood? sheshe2 Apr 2016 #159

No link. I guess her "artful smears" comment early on. Her cheap shots connote the victim but... snowy owl Apr 2016 #171

Good dodge. sheshe2 Apr 2016 #185

This is false on its face, a disproportionate amount of us were banned multiple times uponit7771 Apr 2016 #166

How do you know that? I mean that there were many of you? snowy owl Apr 2016 #176

I was hidden twice for posting about Sanders having the person who called Obama niggerized... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #177

Sorry, I don't know about that person. Can you link? snowy owl Apr 2016 #179

Yes a very high number of people have been hidden or banned just for posting links to Sanders votes uponit7771 Apr 2016 #210

The hides are in the groups. sheshe2 Apr 2016 #186

I'm talking about GDP not individual groups where hides are available uponit7771 Apr 2016 #211

Voted for CFMA, corporate immunity, against Brady Bill and has Tad Devin on his time =! progressive! uponit7771 Apr 2016 #165

You don't do your homework. Check your facts. That's my complaint about HRC people. snowy owl Apr 2016 #178

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #164

+1. A real eye-opener for me. n/t emulatorloo Apr 2016 #60

+1000 Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #73

you mean the unofficial Hillary group? ibegurpard Apr 2016 #132

Sour grapes is a shitty reason to stalk the African American group. bettyellen Apr 2016 #135

I don't go to the African American group ibegurpard Apr 2016 #136

You know because you never go there? wildeyed Apr 2016 #198

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #163

That DU has been so fractured that people who used to be friends... moriah Apr 2016 #26

+1000 AirmensMom Apr 2016 #48

When the election goes to GE footing I'll clear my list. moriah Apr 2016 #63

The people I have mostly agreed with over the years I still agree with Fumesucker Apr 2016 #192

Election fraud n/t. Helga Scow Stern Apr 2016 #27

The fact that the Clinton campaign never addressed this issue. peace13 Apr 2016 #204

Keep seeing nasty posts/comments, elleng Apr 2016 #28

The smug, entitled, arrogant posts of the HRC cheerleaders. grntuscarora Apr 2016 #29

Do you feel that any of Bernie's supporters have been smug, entitled, or arrogant? oberliner Apr 2016 #34

Hillary supporters. grntuscarora Apr 2016 #42

I have seen some of that on both sides oberliner Apr 2016 #44

Perhaps, yes. grntuscarora Apr 2016 #46

Thinking that Hillary and especially Bill xloadiex Apr 2016 #30

Bernie supporters referring to mostly African-American voters as representing "Confederate states" oberliner Apr 2016 #32

Just Bernie Supporters? The South does have a reputation. That Guy 888 Apr 2016 #137

Thanks for posting. A difficult subject. Obama campaigned for Lincoln when a very good real dem was snowy owl Apr 2016 #182

the inability of the democratic party to act like a party Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #33

Clinton supporters calling fellow Democrats racists. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #35

Realizing I don't belong in this party, my values are different. Joob Apr 2016 #36

The systematic attacks against AA people. joshcryer Apr 2016 #37

Bernie supporters promoting conspiracy theories and right wing talking points on a constant basis qdouble Apr 2016 #38

EXACTLY. Sparkly Apr 2016 #95

Conspiracies? In your fantasies. Like what? snowy owl Apr 2016 #154

+1, to this day!!! uponit7771 Apr 2016 #167

Hasn't happened for me yet. 99Forever Apr 2016 #39

Hillary. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #40

Corporate whore Renew Deal Apr 2016 #41

The confirmation that some democrats refuse to embrace progressive policies. Juicy_Bellows Apr 2016 #43

Yes. And also, for me, learning the depth of corruption and seeing that it hasn't been important to JudyM Apr 2016 #134

Well said. I agree and share your shock. Juicy_Bellows Apr 2016 #148

Mr "we'll see" isn't the standard for progressiveness for America uponit7771 Apr 2016 #168

Isn't Festivus in December? TSIAS Apr 2016 #45

For some people, festivus is year round. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #50

Hillary being called a 'whore' in NY. RandySF Apr 2016 #51

Hillary saying "That'll never happen" about FBI investigation implicating her... k8conant Apr 2016 #52

O'Malley not getting any traction at all. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #54

I can actually quite agree with this. Xyzse Apr 2016 #122

There have been too many to count... The painting of a good man as racist, sexist, anti-LGBT ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #57

The realization that a majority of my fellow Dems... actslikeacarrot Apr 2016 #59

When the field winnowed down to our two worst candidates Recursion Apr 2016 #61

Who should have been the nominee? NT Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #193

Schweitzer, had he run Recursion Apr 2016 #194

Oof, that's a hard question. auntpurl Apr 2016 #64

That we let the party get hijacked by an unelectable outsider ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #65

Sorry, but this post is just ridiculous. Maedhros Apr 2016 #81

Worst: realization so few people value democracy. snowy owl Apr 2016 #90

The party and its reaction to progressive ideals. mmonk Apr 2016 #69

This is a tough one ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #70

One thing that has really bummed me out ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #71

when it became obvious to me that the whole primary process was rigged by the Democratic� party corkhead Apr 2016 #74

I concur with this astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #76

When the DNC imposed stifling restrictions on debates Maedhros Apr 2016 #83

The Clinton supporters and campaign using racism against Bernie Sanders and his supporters. Autumn Apr 2016 #77

What do you think of this post? auntpurl Apr 2016 #79

My thoughts? It was a good hide. How do you know it was 3 Bernie supporters? Autumn Apr 2016 #91

So you think it was Hillary supporters? auntpurl Apr 2016 #93

Do you think there are only Bernie and Hillary supporters here and this place is troll free? Autumn Apr 2016 #99

Okey doke. auntpurl Apr 2016 #102

Looks like you have all the right Hillary supporters on ignore if you think that it's only Bernie Autumn Apr 2016 #104

There are definitely jerks on both sides. auntpurl Apr 2016 #106

Maybe it was just racists or trolls? Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #117

I'm sure there are trolls on both sides, yes. auntpurl Apr 2016 #118

Probably not. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #119

I certainly hope so. auntpurl Apr 2016 #120

"when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. " uponit7771 Apr 2016 #170

Ghettos are not exclusive to African-American communities Autumn Apr 2016 #200

Looking at the context of the question everyone knew what he was talking about no amount of excuses uponit7771 Apr 2016 #207

BernieBros threatening to rape my daughter Proud Public Servant Apr 2016 #80

They're like the Black Bloc that show up at street protests here in Portland. Maedhros Apr 2016 #86

When sanders said Hillary wasn't qualified.... beachbum bob Apr 2016 #84

Aw, c'mon. Feel so bad...poor Clintonites . . . even though HRC surrogates said it first. snowy owl Apr 2016 #87

Corruption. It's been at the root of everything else. merrily Apr 2016 #85

"All of them, Charlie." nemo137 Apr 2016 #88

The low point was when Hillary John Poet Apr 2016 #89

+1 farleftlib Apr 2016 #94

The failure of the media to cover Bernie because they dubbed him as "fringe." Vinca Apr 2016 #92

Not good enough Bernie Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #96

Trump Haveadream Apr 2016 #97

Oh god yes, I rescind my answer! THIS. auntpurl Apr 2016 #108

Attacking civil rights icons... workinclasszero Apr 2016 #98

"not good enough, Bernie" jack_krass Apr 2016 #101

Seeing that so many support perpetual war, empire and profit over human lives, polly7 Apr 2016 #103

Yes Polly, I agree. peace13 Apr 2016 #209

This has been the dirtiest campaing I have experienced since 2000 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #107

Last night Armstead Apr 2016 #110

Good grief, this is a shit stirring OP. cry baby Apr 2016 #111

All of it. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #112

The attacks on Senator Sanders wife. nt DookDook Apr 2016 #115

The fixing that has gone on from the state to the actual election. jwirr Apr 2016 #121

That's a pretty good description of an oligarchy. snowy owl Apr 2016 #156

Yes - I wonder how long it has been this way and we did not jwirr Apr 2016 #214

Clinton's candidacy. bvf Apr 2016 #124

Master-Slave relationship and Stockholm Syndrome. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #125

Clinton's candidacy. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #127

When Hillary Clinton announced she was running again. B Calm Apr 2016 #128

And, this ....... right before vital votes. polly7 Apr 2016 #133

That was very well put together. Good points by TYT and a must watch JimDandy Apr 2016 #183

"Count the brown people" Prism Apr 2016 #142

balls out racism from racists reddread Apr 2016 #149

..and that notion was confirmed by polling, it was obvious for all to see after he had Cornell West uponit7771 Apr 2016 #172

That right-wing news sources are used to make arguments and validate opinions. Lil Missy Apr 2016 #147

The media promoting donald trump. It was not funny, but the media hyped that idiot! akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #152

The ascendancy of Trump means that the Repuke field LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #184

How bad our fellow dems are with their cavalier views of voters. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #158

The primary isn't over. I have confidence no matter what the low point is now... Kalidurga Apr 2016 #160

Asshole WillyT's Bigoted Shit Getting a lot of support JI7 Apr 2016 #169

yeap, 80 recs for his meta Stockholm Syndrome post uponit7771 Apr 2016 #173

And 89 melman Apr 2016 #190

Please keep calm! You do not want to get exiled! akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #174

Coming back to DU after a couple year layoff cliffordu Apr 2016 #180

Sanders appearing to let up before all primaries are completed... peace13 Apr 2016 #212

Krugman. I used to listen to him. Now I only see a smug lying bastard. floppyboo Apr 2016 #181

Yes, I also have less respect for Paul Krugman. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #191

Hillary Clinton calling Sanders a single-issue candidate Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #188

When the DNC crammed a shitty candidate down our throats! B Calm Apr 2016 #195

With regard to DU, the letter to our friend in Alaska. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #197

Hillary has been a huge disappointment. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #199

My cursing out other DUers. My being nasty to others here and my bad behavior. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #201

We've all done that...Chalk it up to passion Armstead Apr 2016 #208

That Clinton supporters just don't care that while she was SOS.. peace13 Apr 2016 #202

The systematic use of racial politics by the Clintons and their lackeys. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #203

To me this Democratic 2016 Presidential campaign began with the low that the choice had been made TumbleAndJumble Apr 2016 #206

Low Point? The Writings of H. A. Goodman. MineralMan Apr 2016 #215