2016 Postmortem

Prism

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142. "Count the brown people"

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:32 PM

Apr 2016

It began the day Sanders announced, and it was used to plant the seeds of Bernie's "racial problem" (always put in vague tones with ever shifting conditions he should meet but seemingly never did no matter how he tried to accommodate those demands).

It never ended. The strategy from Day One - alienate Sanders from racial minorities through smear, innuendo, and implication.

It worked. By the time the primaries began, Hillary Clinton should've just gone full Kanye with "Bernie Sanders doesn't care about black people." Even though she was a guiding force and voice for a perspective on crime and welfare that devastated millions of minorities' lives and plenty of poor whites as well).

This dividing tactic was even tried in the LGBT community, but fortunately, we weren't having that shit. The LGBT community remained fairly evenly divided, and when people tried, "Bernie is against gay marriage!" a lot of my brothers and sisters laughed in those shameless partisan lackeys' faces.

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in retrospect, what has been the low point of this primary? [View all] reddread Apr 2016 OP

The pointed use of racial politics by the Clinton campaign to disparage Sanders.[n/t] Maedhros Apr 2016 #1

The Worst of the Worst noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #3

Right up there with Willy Horton.[n/t] Maedhros Apr 2016 #4

Or WillyT. JTFrog Apr 2016 #23

heh. nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #66

I'm glad you referenced that. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #67

so you call him WillyH .... Hiraeth Apr 2016 #123

So does this mean you are defending his racist Stockholm Syndrome post? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #138

I know one thing, Hiraeth Apr 2016 #139

Thank you ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #141

Or down there, Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #196

Low information voters, Stockholm Syndrome, Southern states don't matter KittyWampus Apr 2016 #13

Southern states have "master/slave" mentality emulatorloo Apr 2016 #58

But it was okay when they had the same mentality to Iowa, Vermont etc artislife Apr 2016 #109

Don't forget, "when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about ... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #162

At every turn and every opportunity. nt cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #31

I second this but add a little extra GummyBearz Apr 2016 #49

I'd pretend that as well... it allows us the creative pretense of oppression. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #126

Yesterday's post yearning for Hillary's indictment Hortensis Apr 2016 #72

Yearning for an indictment on charges of which she very well may be guilty Maedhros Apr 2016 #75

The indictment fairy. Lil Missy Apr 2016 #113

Lol. More like the indictment evil warlock. Hortensis Apr 2016 #145

First answer is the thread winner farleftlib Apr 2016 #78

That for sure Armstead Apr 2016 #100

I thought that was very unfair Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #114

My jaw dropped when I was told that it didn't matter if he walked with MLK fasttense Apr 2016 #129

"when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. " uponit7771 Apr 2016 #161

Hillary's refusal to drop out while facing investigations, for the good of the party, takes it silvershadow Apr 2016 #2

Hillary trolls shutting down facebook groups by spamming with child-porn AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #5

yes. That was probably the lowest that I've seen ANY dana_b Apr 2016 #10

AND getting PAID for doing so AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #14

I don't want to just put you on Ignore, but... moriah Apr 2016 #20

I believe there has been a photo with Hillary ....... peace13 Apr 2016 #213

Yeah, that didn't happen, but you go on and believe whatever helps you sleep at night. nt JTFrog Apr 2016 #18

Guess you didn't hear that Facebook itself said that it was a technical glitch and . . . brush Apr 2016 #82

A porn spamming glitch that only took down Sanders groups? AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #144

Did you not read what I wrote? It wasn't only Sanders pages. brush Apr 2016 #146

Bernie using the Vatican and Pope for a political stunt photo op itsrobert Apr 2016 #6

Yeah nolawarlock Apr 2016 #68

The obsessive attention to the Vatican Visit was a comedic lown point Armstead Apr 2016 #105

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #175

Berniebros attacking multiple civil rights icons. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #7

Translation: Sanders marched with MLK whilest Hillary was working to get Goldwater elected AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #15

Translation: Bernie gets the shit beat out of him by Hillary with minorities.... LexVegas Apr 2016 #22

"Pandering, lying bullshit"...Ever heard of Projection? Look it up. KeepItReal Apr 2016 #53

This. This. This. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #205

The information theft by the Sanders campaign CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #8

...that never materialized... AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #17

We'll never know, sadly. CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #21

Bernie fired them for a reason. n/t emulatorloo Apr 2016 #56

The "speech" that Sanders just gave. grossproffit Apr 2016 #9

He was an angry bird. CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #24

That hotsauce thing... ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #11

MSM pretending Senator Sanders was not real. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #12

The disgusting attacks on civil rights leaders and others who dare endorse Hillary. JTFrog Apr 2016 #16

Which civil rights leader was criticized just for endorsing her? NT Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #189

the alert stalking in the African American Group- all the rude assessments of the intellect or bettyellen Apr 2016 #19

+1 itsrobert Apr 2016 #25

That ticks most of my boxes too. wildeyed Apr 2016 #47

Well said. emulatorloo Apr 2016 #55

yeah, the hosts here have been bullied to the brink by libertarians who had an active dislike bettyellen Apr 2016 #62

I don't think Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #116

Bernie is a progressive in the true sense. Isn't it normal for you to find that intimidating I guess snowy owl Apr 2016 #130

"Why is it bad to acknowledge" the rampant harassment of women and POC here IS a real problem? bettyellen Apr 2016 #131

In the eyes of the beholder I guess. Harassment of women? I don't see it. snowy owl Apr 2016 #140

and the harassment of POC- not worth you addressing? Noted. bettyellen Apr 2016 #143

No, I haven't noted that either. Perhaps you're overly sensitive. POC treated like everybody else. snowy owl Apr 2016 #150

Well you are ignorant to what has gone on in the AA forum, but I assure you, I am not. bettyellen Apr 2016 #151

So I disagree so am ignorant. hahaha. Spoken like a true Clinton supporter. snowy owl Apr 2016 #153

You said more than once you did not know- yet discount what I say. So you admittedly spoke from bettyellen Apr 2016 #187

Women. Hillary Supporters. People of Color. AA. sheshe2 Apr 2016 #155

No, I haven't. HRC claims victimhood. Maybe that's prevalent on your side. snowy owl Apr 2016 #157

You have a link to where she claims victim hood? sheshe2 Apr 2016 #159

No link. I guess her "artful smears" comment early on. Her cheap shots connote the victim but... snowy owl Apr 2016 #171

Good dodge. sheshe2 Apr 2016 #185

This is false on its face, a disproportionate amount of us were banned multiple times uponit7771 Apr 2016 #166

How do you know that? I mean that there were many of you? snowy owl Apr 2016 #176

I was hidden twice for posting about Sanders having the person who called Obama niggerized... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #177

Sorry, I don't know about that person. Can you link? snowy owl Apr 2016 #179

Yes a very high number of people have been hidden or banned just for posting links to Sanders votes uponit7771 Apr 2016 #210

The hides are in the groups. sheshe2 Apr 2016 #186

I'm talking about GDP not individual groups where hides are available uponit7771 Apr 2016 #211

Voted for CFMA, corporate immunity, against Brady Bill and has Tad Devin on his time =! progressive! uponit7771 Apr 2016 #165

You don't do your homework. Check your facts. That's my complaint about HRC people. snowy owl Apr 2016 #178

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #164

+1. A real eye-opener for me. n/t emulatorloo Apr 2016 #60

+1000 Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #73

you mean the unofficial Hillary group? ibegurpard Apr 2016 #132

Sour grapes is a shitty reason to stalk the African American group. bettyellen Apr 2016 #135

I don't go to the African American group ibegurpard Apr 2016 #136

You know because you never go there? wildeyed Apr 2016 #198

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #163

That DU has been so fractured that people who used to be friends... moriah Apr 2016 #26

+1000 AirmensMom Apr 2016 #48

When the election goes to GE footing I'll clear my list. moriah Apr 2016 #63

The people I have mostly agreed with over the years I still agree with Fumesucker Apr 2016 #192

Election fraud n/t. Helga Scow Stern Apr 2016 #27

The fact that the Clinton campaign never addressed this issue. peace13 Apr 2016 #204

Keep seeing nasty posts/comments, elleng Apr 2016 #28

The smug, entitled, arrogant posts of the HRC cheerleaders. grntuscarora Apr 2016 #29

Do you feel that any of Bernie's supporters have been smug, entitled, or arrogant? oberliner Apr 2016 #34

Hillary supporters. grntuscarora Apr 2016 #42

I have seen some of that on both sides oberliner Apr 2016 #44

Perhaps, yes. grntuscarora Apr 2016 #46

Thinking that Hillary and especially Bill xloadiex Apr 2016 #30

Bernie supporters referring to mostly African-American voters as representing "Confederate states" oberliner Apr 2016 #32

Just Bernie Supporters? The South does have a reputation. That Guy 888 Apr 2016 #137

Thanks for posting. A difficult subject. Obama campaigned for Lincoln when a very good real dem was snowy owl Apr 2016 #182

the inability of the democratic party to act like a party Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #33

Clinton supporters calling fellow Democrats racists. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #35

Realizing I don't belong in this party, my values are different. Joob Apr 2016 #36

The systematic attacks against AA people. joshcryer Apr 2016 #37

Bernie supporters promoting conspiracy theories and right wing talking points on a constant basis qdouble Apr 2016 #38

EXACTLY. Sparkly Apr 2016 #95

Conspiracies? In your fantasies. Like what? snowy owl Apr 2016 #154

+1, to this day!!! uponit7771 Apr 2016 #167

Hasn't happened for me yet. 99Forever Apr 2016 #39

Hillary. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #40

Corporate whore Renew Deal Apr 2016 #41

The confirmation that some democrats refuse to embrace progressive policies. Juicy_Bellows Apr 2016 #43

Yes. And also, for me, learning the depth of corruption and seeing that it hasn't been important to JudyM Apr 2016 #134

Well said. I agree and share your shock. Juicy_Bellows Apr 2016 #148

Mr "we'll see" isn't the standard for progressiveness for America uponit7771 Apr 2016 #168

Isn't Festivus in December? TSIAS Apr 2016 #45

For some people, festivus is year round. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #50

Hillary being called a 'whore' in NY. RandySF Apr 2016 #51

Hillary saying "That'll never happen" about FBI investigation implicating her... k8conant Apr 2016 #52

O'Malley not getting any traction at all. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #54

I can actually quite agree with this. Xyzse Apr 2016 #122

There have been too many to count... The painting of a good man as racist, sexist, anti-LGBT ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #57

The realization that a majority of my fellow Dems... actslikeacarrot Apr 2016 #59

When the field winnowed down to our two worst candidates Recursion Apr 2016 #61

Who should have been the nominee? NT Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #193

Schweitzer, had he run Recursion Apr 2016 #194

Oof, that's a hard question. auntpurl Apr 2016 #64

That we let the party get hijacked by an unelectable outsider ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #65

Sorry, but this post is just ridiculous. Maedhros Apr 2016 #81

Worst: realization so few people value democracy. snowy owl Apr 2016 #90

The party and its reaction to progressive ideals. mmonk Apr 2016 #69

This is a tough one ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #70

One thing that has really bummed me out ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #71

when it became obvious to me that the whole primary process was rigged by the Democratic� party corkhead Apr 2016 #74

I concur with this astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #76

When the DNC imposed stifling restrictions on debates Maedhros Apr 2016 #83

The Clinton supporters and campaign using racism against Bernie Sanders and his supporters. Autumn Apr 2016 #77

What do you think of this post? auntpurl Apr 2016 #79

My thoughts? It was a good hide. How do you know it was 3 Bernie supporters? Autumn Apr 2016 #91

So you think it was Hillary supporters? auntpurl Apr 2016 #93

Do you think there are only Bernie and Hillary supporters here and this place is troll free? Autumn Apr 2016 #99

Okey doke. auntpurl Apr 2016 #102

Looks like you have all the right Hillary supporters on ignore if you think that it's only Bernie Autumn Apr 2016 #104

There are definitely jerks on both sides. auntpurl Apr 2016 #106

Maybe it was just racists or trolls? Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #117

I'm sure there are trolls on both sides, yes. auntpurl Apr 2016 #118

Probably not. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #119

I certainly hope so. auntpurl Apr 2016 #120

"when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. " uponit7771 Apr 2016 #170

Ghettos are not exclusive to African-American communities Autumn Apr 2016 #200

Looking at the context of the question everyone knew what he was talking about no amount of excuses uponit7771 Apr 2016 #207

BernieBros threatening to rape my daughter Proud Public Servant Apr 2016 #80

They're like the Black Bloc that show up at street protests here in Portland. Maedhros Apr 2016 #86

When sanders said Hillary wasn't qualified.... beachbum bob Apr 2016 #84

Aw, c'mon. Feel so bad...poor Clintonites . . . even though HRC surrogates said it first. snowy owl Apr 2016 #87

Corruption. It's been at the root of everything else. merrily Apr 2016 #85

"All of them, Charlie." nemo137 Apr 2016 #88

The low point was when Hillary John Poet Apr 2016 #89

+1 farleftlib Apr 2016 #94

The failure of the media to cover Bernie because they dubbed him as "fringe." Vinca Apr 2016 #92

Not good enough Bernie Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #96

Trump Haveadream Apr 2016 #97

Oh god yes, I rescind my answer! THIS. auntpurl Apr 2016 #108

Attacking civil rights icons... workinclasszero Apr 2016 #98

"not good enough, Bernie" jack_krass Apr 2016 #101

Seeing that so many support perpetual war, empire and profit over human lives, polly7 Apr 2016 #103

Yes Polly, I agree. peace13 Apr 2016 #209

This has been the dirtiest campaing I have experienced since 2000 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #107

Last night Armstead Apr 2016 #110

Good grief, this is a shit stirring OP. cry baby Apr 2016 #111

All of it. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #112

The attacks on Senator Sanders wife. nt DookDook Apr 2016 #115

The fixing that has gone on from the state to the actual election. jwirr Apr 2016 #121

That's a pretty good description of an oligarchy. snowy owl Apr 2016 #156

Yes - I wonder how long it has been this way and we did not jwirr Apr 2016 #214

Clinton's candidacy. bvf Apr 2016 #124

Master-Slave relationship and Stockholm Syndrome. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #125

Clinton's candidacy. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #127

When Hillary Clinton announced she was running again. B Calm Apr 2016 #128

And, this ....... right before vital votes. polly7 Apr 2016 #133

That was very well put together. Good points by TYT and a must watch JimDandy Apr 2016 #183

"Count the brown people" Prism Apr 2016 #142

balls out racism from racists reddread Apr 2016 #149

..and that notion was confirmed by polling, it was obvious for all to see after he had Cornell West uponit7771 Apr 2016 #172

That right-wing news sources are used to make arguments and validate opinions. Lil Missy Apr 2016 #147

The media promoting donald trump. It was not funny, but the media hyped that idiot! akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #152

The ascendancy of Trump means that the Repuke field LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #184

How bad our fellow dems are with their cavalier views of voters. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #158

The primary isn't over. I have confidence no matter what the low point is now... Kalidurga Apr 2016 #160

Asshole WillyT's Bigoted Shit Getting a lot of support JI7 Apr 2016 #169

yeap, 80 recs for his meta Stockholm Syndrome post uponit7771 Apr 2016 #173

And 89 melman Apr 2016 #190

Please keep calm! You do not want to get exiled! akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #174

Coming back to DU after a couple year layoff cliffordu Apr 2016 #180

Sanders appearing to let up before all primaries are completed... peace13 Apr 2016 #212

Krugman. I used to listen to him. Now I only see a smug lying bastard. floppyboo Apr 2016 #181

Yes, I also have less respect for Paul Krugman. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #191

Hillary Clinton calling Sanders a single-issue candidate Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #188

When the DNC crammed a shitty candidate down our throats! B Calm Apr 2016 #195

With regard to DU, the letter to our friend in Alaska. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #197

Hillary has been a huge disappointment. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #199

My cursing out other DUers. My being nasty to others here and my bad behavior. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #201

We've all done that...Chalk it up to passion Armstead Apr 2016 #208

That Clinton supporters just don't care that while she was SOS.. peace13 Apr 2016 #202

The systematic use of racial politics by the Clintons and their lackeys. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #203

To me this Democratic 2016 Presidential campaign began with the low that the choice had been made TumbleAndJumble Apr 2016 #206

Low Point? The Writings of H. A. Goodman. MineralMan Apr 2016 #215