Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
13. Yes, I sometimes use the words Corporatist and Republican interchangeably, even though
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:23 PM
Apr 2016

I know that the Corporatists are the big money-bags who mostly pull the strings from behind
the scenes, and the Republicans have been their puppets for the longest time. Recently, some
of the puppets have begun to rebel, with Trump as their leader.

Democrats, on the other hand, have been against the Corporatists from way back, but more
and more of them have also begun to be financially influenced by the Corporatists since the
time of Reagan - perhaps even of Nixon? Today the Democratic Establishment is composed of
more Corporate Democrats than anything else, and Sanders and Warren are leading a
separate group - the Progressives or Libertarians - that is fighting against being swallowed up
by the Corporatists.

Hillary sometimes describes herself as a Progressive. It's for political reasons, of course. She
is anything but. Yes, she is a Wall-Streeter. I also use the word Corporatist with Wall Street
interchangeably. However, there is some difference between her and a Republican. I don't
think she would nominate a Republican to the Supreme Court. Obama seems to be doing this
now, but I think he is doing it to embarrass the Republicans - it's a game of daring, which, I
think, is both childish and dangerous.

I agree that the Corporatists don't want Trump to win. But Trump is flicking his fingers from
his nose at the Corporatists at the moment. He is financially independent and can afford to do
so. I think Trump is for Trump, and nobody else. I read yesterday that he said if he should
lose, we wouldn't be hearing from him again - ever. No big loss, as far as I am concerned.
In the meantime he is probably having fun leading the Republican part of the rebellion
against the Corporatists.

There isn't much difference between the Republican and Democratic Corporatists. But I hope
Sanders and Warren have started a movement that will unite and give direction to the energies
of the Progressives, and that the movement will continue after she and he will have left the
political scene.

Last time I looked Hillary received 3 MILLION more beachbum bob Apr 2016 #1
Like I've said above, this happens only in the Primaries, where the odd rules and Cal33 Apr 2016 #3
Bro, its a Democratic primary, Democrats should choose the nominee. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #19
Sanders is a real Democrat. He is trying to bring back a government of, by and for the people -- Cal33 Apr 2016 #20
Cannot compare the two egalitegirl Apr 2016 #2
Right you are. And a hearty welcome to DU!! Cal33 Apr 2016 #4
Already have one, 'but she beat Sanders, so...'. Expect many more. Dawgs Apr 2016 #5
The people have spoken. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #6
Both of these parties are rapidly becoming obsolete. Marr Apr 2016 #7
It's the Establishment Democrats who have sold out to Corporate Power. I hope the Progressive Cal33 Apr 2016 #14
I think you're in complete denial about what the Democratic Party has become BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #8
"Spare me the poor Democrats, nothing to fight back with..." Hey, you only quoted part of the Cal33 Apr 2016 #10
Cal33, you attribute things almost entirely to Republicans that I think are corporatist BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #11
Yes, I sometimes use the words Corporatist and Republican interchangeably, even though Cal33 Apr 2016 #13
The Democratic Party has taken a hard right, and has disappeared in a cloud of swirling djean111 Apr 2016 #9
I think it's a new normal status mythology Apr 2016 #12
The majority of democrats trust Clinton uponit7771 Apr 2016 #15
The majority of Democrats? I'm not so sure. Cal33 Apr 2016 #16
the 2 oligarchs Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #17
That's another way of Cal33 Apr 2016 #18
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Isn't it odd that Clinton...»Reply #13