2016 Postmortem

RufusTFirefly

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117. Exactly!

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:21 PM

Apr 2016

I've always thought that Trump was designed to scare us into voting for a corporatist in order to avoid electing Mussolini.

Think how relieved we'll all be when we elect a Wall Street tool instead of a dictator.

As for why the Republicans hate her, the answer is the same as why they accused the President of being a socialist: it forces the Democrats to move even further right and provides an excuse for doing so.

FDR would be shocked and saddened by what passes as the Democratic Party these days. Heck, even Richard Nixon would be appalled.

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My party has sold it's soul. [View all] Splinter Cell Apr 2016 OP

16 Tons Xipe Totec Apr 2016 #1

But the ideas are still alive and well Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #2

Hoping for a new viable nationwide 3rd party The People's Party. Populists vs the 2 corp parties. RiverLover Apr 2016 #61

I second the motion. Great platform! nt Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #84

and the Oscar goes to... dlwickham Apr 2016 #3

..Hilary Clinton, Neocon/Neolib, for greatest performance as a Democrat (a Republican method actor) Dragonfli Apr 2016 #6

Excellent! Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #12

So true Carolina Apr 2016 #13

.that^ 840high Apr 2016 #15

If she's a Repub, how come they hate her so much? VOX Apr 2016 #19

Well, now you're just trying to use logic and reason. nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #20

That has always been a mystery to me as she agrees with so many of their policies Dragonfli Apr 2016 #21

Bernie and Hillary voted the same 93% of the time. Try again. nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #22

not regarding war or bad trade deals, she is a tool of the rich, you count post office votes mostly. Dragonfli Apr 2016 #25

I don't know but I think more and more it's a good cop bad cop routine. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Apr 2016 #31

In a nutshell. /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #32

It's like some folks give up on that tough pistachio shell. Juicy_Bellows Apr 2016 #33

Professional Wrestling Secrets. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #89

Exactly! RufusTFirefly Apr 2016 #117

It seems to make the most sense to me. Juicy_Bellows Apr 2016 #118

prove that. If you don't want to, you don't want to know treestar Apr 2016 #76

First of all, I did not make the claim, I responded to it, the "proving" of a statement is on them. Dragonfli Apr 2016 #86

Thank you Dragonfli LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #95

Wow! Amaril Apr 2016 #100

Thank you... TeeYiYi Apr 2016 #108

Thank you for this! Great post. nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #125

We share 98% of our dna with chimps but there's still a difference. Don't be dense. snowy owl Apr 2016 #35

Nor during primary season. We yet sit safely in our trees flinging poo at each LanternWaste Apr 2016 #69

Can't speak for you but I'm sitting at a computer. Enjoy your tree. snowy owl Apr 2016 #122

Figures lie and liars figure. 99Forever Apr 2016 #82

But wait aren't we being told that like 60% of them will vote for her? azurnoir Apr 2016 #23

That is a lie. A Koch did not endorse her. I really hate it when people lie like that. Gross. nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #24

sorry your right it's less than 60% but still it's a signifigant number and Koch did endorse her as azurnoir Apr 2016 #27

Hmm, he came pretty close and when asked, he didn't say no to the question of endorsement snowy owl Apr 2016 #36

I really hate it when Hillary continues to lie about Sanders' daily news hit piece. Gross. nt Chezboo Apr 2016 #113

It's just another cheap shot in her arsenal. Dishonest smears-my problem with her. snowy owl Apr 2016 #123

No, he did not endorse her. apcalc Apr 2016 #126

The Republican establishment bvf Apr 2016 #62

Because she has a D next to her name, not an R. nt m-lekktor Apr 2016 #73

I know! If they would believe the Republicans' fictional Hillary treestar Apr 2016 #75

Because they attack the Dem CENTRISTS as ULTRA-LIBERAL; that shifts everything to the RIGHT yodermon Apr 2016 #92

Which is exactly wy I will never vote for Hillary LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #96

They hate Bill and her Beowulf Apr 2016 #112

they don't hate her, they're just jealous. n/t RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #121

Bookmarked. Dem2 Apr 2016 #94

... Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #115

Yeah, talk about exaggerated drama treestar Apr 2016 #74

Amen to that. Here's an article on the effort from Obama on down to defeat MD and PA progressives BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #4

Pro-Israel Billionaire Haim Saban Drops $100,000 Against Donna Edwards in Maryland azurnoir Apr 2016 #26

And good riddence to that progressive nonsense! quantumjunkie Apr 2016 #5

Mammon: The greedy pursuit of wealth. Goldman-Sachs, the Koch Bros, the rhett o rick Apr 2016 #7

I will say this ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #8

Yeah, its been fun, but if not Sanders I believe I'll be solely a down ticket voter. JPnoodleman Apr 2016 #9

There's nothing Carolina Apr 2016 #18

She consorts with all the slithering beings, Kissinger and Goldman Sachs. JPnoodleman Apr 2016 #30

She's proud of her Kissinger connection. Leslie Stahl: She's the biggest hawk in the race. snowy owl Apr 2016 #37

Sounds like Trump is for you then leftofcool Apr 2016 #54

Only an idiot would jump to that illogical conclusion LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #97

Exactly, both HRC & Trump are beholden to Wall Street/MegaBanks... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #110

Can you read?! Carolina Apr 2016 #99

Vote for the blue corporate warmonger or else you're voting for the red corporate warmonger Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #116

... MoonRiver Apr 2016 #68

Someone should gild the Wall Street Bull nt felix_numinous Apr 2016 #10

gild? like cover in gold? I think that's been done and will continue unabated azurnoir Apr 2016 #28

Geld - to neuter or castrate: gelding - a male horse who can't. Gild-cover with gold is correct. snowy owl Apr 2016 #38

I know the difference between geld and gild but the Wall Street bull is gilded already azurnoir Apr 2016 #39

My apologies. I see why you made that comment. I thought it was bronze... Sorry again. snowy owl Apr 2016 #43

Your golden calf reference was apropos Fairgo Apr 2016 #93

Not dead, it is going to be reborn, as soon as Hillary loses to Trump. She's tied now ffs. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #11

And if he wins, he'll be one and done... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #111

Whoa! I tripped on your hyperbole Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #14

FUCK IT.......Social Democratic Party. seekthetruth Apr 2016 #16

I'm sorry to tell you this, but FDR was also funded by Wall Street. BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #17

Wall Street in 1932 had been severely humbled , not so these days however azurnoir Apr 2016 #40

May have been but... "I welcome their hatred." Can Clinton welcome their hatred? snowy owl Apr 2016 #41

He was pandering. FDR did a lot of that. He ran on lowering taxes Recursion Apr 2016 #44

If 0.01%er FDR can forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #87

They do what they have to do to mount the campaign treestar Apr 2016 #77

Mine is doing just fine, and is on it's way to electing the first female POTUS Lucinda Apr 2016 #29

But it's really because she's a woman, huh? snowy owl Apr 2016 #42

Why, because we're nominating somebody who has been part of the D establishment for over 20 years? ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #34

The establishment was basically blindsided by Sanders, I don't see that happening again Fumesucker Apr 2016 #48

"its" auntpurl Apr 2016 #45

... Scuba Apr 2016 #46

Hillary's lies and a failing media have contributed to an ignorant populace. Broward Apr 2016 #47

Someone else who doesn't know history... Adrahil Apr 2016 #49

Bernie fights to save this party, if he loses. The war will be fought OUTSIDE this party. Joob Apr 2016 #50

God, one can only hope! COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #63

Ten million Democrats are "liars and fools"... brooklynite Apr 2016 #51

No not fools -- but conned....... I was once conned by the Clintons too. Armstead Apr 2016 #59

In a nutshell! Thread winner! COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #52

Nah! The Party has rigged it's soul. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #53

"its" not "it's" nt COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #65

Losing is rough workinclasszero Apr 2016 #55

If Hillary represents the Democratic Party - warmongering, fracking, giving away jobs, djean111 Apr 2016 #56

This is false on its face uponit7771 Apr 2016 #57

HRC supporters don't get it casperthegm Apr 2016 #58

By all means, start another party! auntpurl Apr 2016 #60

The more reasonable will accept that their candidate lost COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #66

So essentially, those who don't get on board with Hillary are silly dreamers? casperthegm Apr 2016 #71

Your words, not mine. But now that you mention it... COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #72

^ and that is why the Democratic party is continuing to shrink casperthegm Apr 2016 #80

Independents in their 20's have a way of becoming Democrats COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #98

You can start your own party or pick an existing one workinclasszero Apr 2016 #78

Agree, that option is on the table casperthegm Apr 2016 #83

It wasn't exactly voluntary. It began as a hostile takeover. Orsino Apr 2016 #67

least it's more known now, that's all. Joob Apr 2016 #70

Sold its soul... NCTraveler Apr 2016 #79

You're so right! LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #101

The Clinton Global Initiative does some great work. Thanks for highlighting that. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #105

You're so welcome! LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #106

Most Admired Woman in World, Record 20th Time Gallup, December 2015. stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #81

Oh come on now... Carni Apr 2016 #85

Yeah, what's a little war and fracking, amiright? djean111 Apr 2016 #102

Rendell said he'd go third party if Bernie won pengu Apr 2016 #127

He never said that. apcalc Apr 2016 #129

Here you go pengu Apr 2016 #131

Ed's been through some tough battles apcalc Apr 2016 #128

yep, back in '92, but we just didn't know it then. 2banon Apr 2016 #88

After 12 years of Reagan-Bush, Clinton seemed LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #103

I know it feels defeating now and it's diffcult to dana_b Apr 2016 #90

I don't think he has been giving up. peace13 Apr 2016 #109

As has DU. Those guys with the banner on 1-20-2001 don't exist anymore. MadDAsHell Apr 2016 #91

+1,000 LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #104

I raise a glass of fracking water in toast to this. peace13 Apr 2016 #107

Hear this every cycle Dem2 Apr 2016 #114

Member since april 2015 PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #124

I just love this chart pdsimdars Apr 2016 #119

It's been dead since 1992 eom LiberalElite Apr 2016 #120

Your candidate lost the primary.This happens to sufrommich Apr 2016 #130

third way took over the democratic party. Matt_R Apr 2016 #132

Kick Logical Apr 2016 #133