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Showing Original Post only (View all)I've seen a lot of puff pieces about Hillary's excuses and justifications for her IWR vote. [View all]
Thought I'd post this to #correcttherecord
The 5 Worst Excuses for Hillary Clintons Vote To Invade Iraq
Clinton supporters want Democratic voters to forgive their candidates support for the most disastrous foreign policy decision in decades. They shouldnt.
1. Hillary Clintons vote wasnt for war, but simply to pressure Saddam Hussein to allow UN weapons inspectors back into Iraq.
At the time of vote, Saddam Hussein had already agreed in principle to a return of the weapons inspectors. His government was negotiating with the United Nations Monitoring and Verification Commission on the details, which were formally institutionalized a few weeks later. (Indeed, it would have been resolved earlier had the United States not repeatedly postponed a UN Security Council resolution in the hopes of inserting language that would have allowed Washington to unilaterally interpret the level of compliance.)
Furthermore, if then-Senator Clintons desire was simply to push Saddam into complying with the inspection process, she wouldnt have voted against the substitute Levin amendment, which would have also granted President Bush authority to use force, but only if Iraq defied subsequent UN demands regarding the inspections process. Instead, Clinton voted for a Republican-sponsored resolution to give Bush the authority to invade Iraq at the time and circumstances of his own choosing.
In fact, unfettered large-scale weapons inspections had been going on in Iraq for nearly four months at the time the Bush administration launched the March 2003 invasion. Despite the UN weapons inspectors having not found any evidence of WMDs or active WMD programs after months of searching, Clinton made clear that the United States should invade Iraq anyway. Indeed, she asserted that even though Saddam was in full compliance with the UN Security Council, he nevertheless needed to resign as president, leave the country, and allow U.S. troops to occupy the country. The president gave Saddam Hussein one last chance to avoid war, Clinton said in a statement, and the world hopes that Saddam Hussein will finally hear this ultimatum, understand the severity of those words, and act accordingly.
When Saddam refused to resign and the Bush administration launched the invasion, Clinton went on record calling for unequivocal support for Bushs firm leadership and decisive action as part of the ongoing Global War on Terrorism. She insisted that Iraq was somehow still in material breach of the relevant United Nations resolutions and, despite the fact that weapons inspectors had produced evidence to the contrary, claimed the invasion was necessary to neutralize Iraqs weapons of mass destruction.
(more at link)
http://inthesetimes.com/article/18813/the-five-lamest-excuses-for-hillary-clintons-vote-to-invade-iraq
Clinton supporters want Democratic voters to forgive their candidates support for the most disastrous foreign policy decision in decades. They shouldnt.
1. Hillary Clintons vote wasnt for war, but simply to pressure Saddam Hussein to allow UN weapons inspectors back into Iraq.
At the time of vote, Saddam Hussein had already agreed in principle to a return of the weapons inspectors. His government was negotiating with the United Nations Monitoring and Verification Commission on the details, which were formally institutionalized a few weeks later. (Indeed, it would have been resolved earlier had the United States not repeatedly postponed a UN Security Council resolution in the hopes of inserting language that would have allowed Washington to unilaterally interpret the level of compliance.)
Furthermore, if then-Senator Clintons desire was simply to push Saddam into complying with the inspection process, she wouldnt have voted against the substitute Levin amendment, which would have also granted President Bush authority to use force, but only if Iraq defied subsequent UN demands regarding the inspections process. Instead, Clinton voted for a Republican-sponsored resolution to give Bush the authority to invade Iraq at the time and circumstances of his own choosing.
In fact, unfettered large-scale weapons inspections had been going on in Iraq for nearly four months at the time the Bush administration launched the March 2003 invasion. Despite the UN weapons inspectors having not found any evidence of WMDs or active WMD programs after months of searching, Clinton made clear that the United States should invade Iraq anyway. Indeed, she asserted that even though Saddam was in full compliance with the UN Security Council, he nevertheless needed to resign as president, leave the country, and allow U.S. troops to occupy the country. The president gave Saddam Hussein one last chance to avoid war, Clinton said in a statement, and the world hopes that Saddam Hussein will finally hear this ultimatum, understand the severity of those words, and act accordingly.
When Saddam refused to resign and the Bush administration launched the invasion, Clinton went on record calling for unequivocal support for Bushs firm leadership and decisive action as part of the ongoing Global War on Terrorism. She insisted that Iraq was somehow still in material breach of the relevant United Nations resolutions and, despite the fact that weapons inspectors had produced evidence to the contrary, claimed the invasion was necessary to neutralize Iraqs weapons of mass destruction.
(more at link)
http://inthesetimes.com/article/18813/the-five-lamest-excuses-for-hillary-clintons-vote-to-invade-iraq
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I've seen a lot of puff pieces about Hillary's excuses and justifications for her IWR vote. [View all]
vintx
Apr 2016
OP
She didn't want too. Bush gave NY 20 billion so she had too. And NY wanted that war...
bahrbearian
Apr 2016
#49
I did not realize until this moment that the Bernie Brigade takes umbrage with HRC's vote on Iraq.
Buzz Clik
Apr 2016
#2
Do you think the people will ever "shut up" about it? You DO know that millions died, right?
vintx
Apr 2016
#10
Millions died. That's a very big fucking difference. How many dead in Libya, so far,
vintx
Apr 2016
#16
She did not vote to authorize a war. Look it up ... or just keep obsessing over your misconception.
Buzz Clik
Apr 2016
#26
Not at all, but my patience has worn thin with the incredible arrogance accompanying your ignorance.
Buzz Clik
Apr 2016
#31
"It's time for the United States to start thinking of Iraq as a business opportunity." - HRC
vintx
Apr 2016
#7
meanwhile there's bernie voting to spend billions on the MIC every year. and look what he gets in
msongs
Apr 2016
#13
It's been ''Money trumps peace'' since the Ayatollah gave Reagan a major for the Hostages.
Octafish
Apr 2016
#14
IW was a mistake - I knew it at the time. It was bush/cheney's war, not Hillary's.
Lil Missy
Apr 2016
#30