2016 Postmortem

loyalsister

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79. I have said the same thing

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:37 PM

Apr 2016

It's a combination of arrogance and recklessness. In both cases they claimed victimhood.
They have used it to their advantage and ultimately created an ideology around it by convincing people to be loyal because they are hated by the people supporters oppose. Then, they can do no wrong and supporters will defend anything.

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Chicago Tribune Editorial Board: WHAT Hillary Clinton Said BEHIND Closed Doors [View all] Segami Apr 2016 OP

Chicago Tribune Editorial Board: "...If she likes that role... Segami Apr 2016 #1

NOW... NOTTTTT Later! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #29

Here she is speaking at a Goldman Sachs event in 2014. It's not that exciting. pnwmom Apr 2016 #35

That's not what anyone is talking about... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #40

It's one of the speeches for which Goldman Sachs paid her foundation a lot of money . n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #41

Smack. Down. randome Apr 2016 #60

Who smacking who? dchill Apr 2016 #62

The speeches were a poorly disguised excuse to funnel money to her personal wealth. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #103

fundraising for what she is doing now glinda Apr 2016 #116

I am not speaking of "fundraising" I am speaking of money given to Clinton's personal wealth account rhett o rick Apr 2016 #117

and I am still speaking of fundraising glinda Apr 2016 #118

True, almost nobody is, but I still wanna know if she mentioned social security Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #76

That's not a Goldman-Sachs event, it's a Clinton Global Initiative event. Scuba Apr 2016 #51

Lying is contagious, and in some quarters... dchill Apr 2016 #61

+100000 Segami Apr 2016 #59

Aaaaand here comes the vetting. frylock Apr 2016 #2

I have wondered if the media will turn on her. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #48

of course they will, thats why they want her to be our nominee elehhhhna Apr 2016 #52

Undeniably True Fairgo Apr 2016 #3

How have so few come forward on this. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #4

Don't we just love autocorrect? Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #109

Yeah I have a very faulty ap for the keyboard and the android spellcheck is horrid. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #122

BOOM here it is --- grasswire Apr 2016 #5

The same goes for the email investigation loyalsister Apr 2016 #10

someone was very stupid to think the server could remain hidden. grasswire Apr 2016 #14

Bingo. ....Lies , Deception and Secrets Segami Apr 2016 #15

is there a term for people who engage in extremely risky behavior? grasswire Apr 2016 #17

yes there is, it is called STUPIDITY n/t mrdmk Apr 2016 #24

Hubris. surrealAmerican Apr 2016 #25

I don't know a specific term but PTSD contributes to risk taking behavior. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #46

She could got PTSD Gwhittey Apr 2016 #105

That whole incident is just a microism of what I'm talking about. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #108

Shortly after Bill was elected to his first term, a reporter asked Hillary senz Apr 2016 #19

I have said the same thing loyalsister Apr 2016 #79

the only word I have for this is "DIABOLICAL" grasswire Apr 2016 #91

Truly loyalsister Apr 2016 #97

yes, good points nt grasswire Apr 2016 #98

I believe the term you may be searching for is 2banon Apr 2016 #107

I guess so. grasswire Apr 2016 #110

Don't forget the Republicans got away with it with the RNC, so there IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #99

and reckless narcissistic risk taking nt grasswire Apr 2016 #102

The Clintons have earned tens of millions from their books jfern Apr 2016 #20

Yes, and >$600k/yr in federal pensions... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #87

Don't forget the Foundation Gwhittey Apr 2016 #106

Except she doesn't do kitchens! peace13 Apr 2016 #28

Bernie could have avoided scrutiny of his tax returns by finding different work. pnwmom Apr 2016 #31

That's a ridiculous comparison Armstead Apr 2016 #36

His tax returns aren't public knowledge but they should be if he's a serious candidate. pnwmom Apr 2016 #42

yeah I'm sure they're hiding something. Armstead Apr 2016 #44

Probably their very low tax rate as a result of high deductions. Also very low charitable, pnwmom Apr 2016 #47

LOL! nashville_brook Apr 2016 #96

your example is purely silly grasswire Apr 2016 #113

Plenty of people do. Just not Bernie supporters. I personally think he took a lot of deductions pnwmom Apr 2016 #114

Perhaps the same could be said about you. Think what you might have accomplished politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2016 #112

K&R'd. snot Apr 2016 #6

"She sounded more like a Goldman Sachs managing director" said the witness. bjo59 Apr 2016 #7

I LOVE the Chicago Tribune!! Jack Bone Apr 2016 #8

The same paper that can't give Rauner too vigorous of a rubdown? nemo137 Apr 2016 #73

Here in central Indiana Redstate hell ... Jack Bone Apr 2016 #104

she knew what she was doing and how to bbgrunt Apr 2016 #9

'Cash in'? If she was as greedy as you imagine, you'd think she would own a fleet of yachts by now. randome Apr 2016 #68

Well they were dead broke fifteen years ago so give them time bahrbearian Apr 2016 #72

Real power doesn't role like that NWCorona Apr 2016 #78

Logical fallacy instead of reasoned response. arcane1 Apr 2016 #80

Except she extorted her cash, Trump & Romney more or less "earned it".. Yurovsky Apr 2016 #88

I think we all expect the same thing which is the most likely thing - duplicity. Unicorn Apr 2016 #11

You'd have to be a naive gullible LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #12

Bernie needs to release his tax returns. One year's worth doesn't cut it. She's released 30. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #32

Second verse, same as the first Beowulf Apr 2016 #58

and and F-35's , .... Sexisim ... Racist...am I missing any? bahrbearian Apr 2016 #74

I expect they'd have been fine with her just reciting the alphabet. Marr Apr 2016 #119

Well, here's one GS speech. moriah Apr 2016 #13

newsbin grasswire Apr 2016 #18

It's been on youtube since 2014. Right here. pnwmom Apr 2016 #34

That's a public speech for the Clinton Global Iniative Armstead Apr 2016 #38

That was a private speech sponsored by Goldman Sachs for their Women's Entrepreneur initiative. pnwmom Apr 2016 #43

How about this? Armstead Apr 2016 #53

No. The tax returns come first. They are the standard, not speech transcripts. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #54

Well we're at a deadlock then Armstead Apr 2016 #55

who put you in charge, anyway? grasswire Apr 2016 #121

Her attempts to deflect with that video are simply dishonest, she's claiming that is the Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #56

DailyNewsBin = David Brock Segami Apr 2016 #21

Sorry, thanks. Was posting for the video in it, though. moriah Apr 2016 #22

Then watch it here. pnwmom Apr 2016 #33

A public speech for the Clinton Global Initiative Armstead Apr 2016 #39

Not a public speech. This was a Goldman Sachs event and it wasn't open to the public. And it was pnwmom Apr 2016 #45

That's why it says Goldman Sachs on the podium.....oh wait... (nt) jeff47 Apr 2016 #69

That's why Goldman Sachs shows this speech on its website. pnwmom Apr 2016 #83

Here, lemme bold the part you keep desperately ignoring. jeff47 Apr 2016 #84

So what? The Goldman Sachs initiative hosted its own annual dinner, at which HRC spoke. pnwmom Apr 2016 #85

Chicago Tribune: Why now? It's almost a done deal. why now? snowy owl Apr 2016 #16

A good question indeed. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #26

Too little too late. Broward Apr 2016 #49

K&R CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #23

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #27

Still waiting for Bernie and Donald's tax returns . . . as all candidates have provided pnwmom Apr 2016 #30

To repeat..... Armstead Apr 2016 #37

Let's be real. I love Bernie, but barring a miracle he's out of it. Vinca Apr 2016 #50

Vinca, think of Bernie the way we think of that mid-century tray. grasswire Apr 2016 #94

My opinion. Paying someone ridiculous money to blab Lint Head Apr 2016 #57

You do realize that Goldman Sachs does contribute many worthy social programs. They as many Jitter65 Apr 2016 #63

Are they tax write-offs? Are they donations to the Clinton Foundation? imagine2015 Apr 2016 #64

But wait... ljm2002 Apr 2016 #65

The "NOBODY CARES" meme is a David Brock talking point... Segami Apr 2016 #66

Then so is the Washington Post, New York Times and a slew of others - all dupes! riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #67

Hillary is an escape artist, disguise artist, don't fall for her lie. Please, wake up. kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #70

true dat. grasswire Apr 2016 #92

No one gets THAT kind of money, talking with These kinds of people Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author potisok Apr 2016 #86

I don't even get why you capitalize certain words and not others anymore Maven Apr 2016 #75

Its a code demwing Apr 2016 #82

"Clinton could have avoided scrutiny by finding different work." dchill Apr 2016 #77

yes grasswire Apr 2016 #93

The TRUTH must be worse than the SPECULATION demwing Apr 2016 #81

It's hard to tell with the Clintons... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #89

"We're guessing" displacedtexan Apr 2016 #90

Anyone with a lick of common sense knows Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #95

don't think it matters what clinton says on any given day. mooseprime Apr 2016 #100

She's accepting a good bit of damage to keep them secret, so they must be bad tabasco Apr 2016 #101

Hillary Kissinger Nixon W. Bush Clinton John Poet Apr 2016 #111

The blanket statement that this wasn't about buying influence. Really? Skwmom Apr 2016 #115

She could've stood there and juggled oranges for five minutes, for all Goldman Sachs cared. Marr Apr 2016 #120

She said don't worry about the calls for addressing climate change. raouldukelives Apr 2016 #123