2016 Postmortem

demwing

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81. The TRUTH must be worse than the SPECULATION

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:50 PM

Apr 2016

otherwise why allow the speculation to continue?

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Chicago Tribune Editorial Board: WHAT Hillary Clinton Said BEHIND Closed Doors [View all] Segami Apr 2016 OP

Chicago Tribune Editorial Board: "...If she likes that role... Segami Apr 2016 #1

NOW... NOTTTTT Later! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #29

Here she is speaking at a Goldman Sachs event in 2014. It's not that exciting. pnwmom Apr 2016 #35

That's not what anyone is talking about... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #40

It's one of the speeches for which Goldman Sachs paid her foundation a lot of money . n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #41

Smack. Down. randome Apr 2016 #60

Who smacking who? dchill Apr 2016 #62

The speeches were a poorly disguised excuse to funnel money to her personal wealth. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #103

fundraising for what she is doing now glinda Apr 2016 #116

I am not speaking of "fundraising" I am speaking of money given to Clinton's personal wealth account rhett o rick Apr 2016 #117

and I am still speaking of fundraising glinda Apr 2016 #118

True, almost nobody is, but I still wanna know if she mentioned social security Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #76

That's not a Goldman-Sachs event, it's a Clinton Global Initiative event. Scuba Apr 2016 #51

Lying is contagious, and in some quarters... dchill Apr 2016 #61

+100000 Segami Apr 2016 #59

Aaaaand here comes the vetting. frylock Apr 2016 #2

I have wondered if the media will turn on her. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #48

of course they will, thats why they want her to be our nominee elehhhhna Apr 2016 #52

Undeniably True Fairgo Apr 2016 #3

How have so few come forward on this. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #4

Don't we just love autocorrect? Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #109

Yeah I have a very faulty ap for the keyboard and the android spellcheck is horrid. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #122

BOOM here it is --- grasswire Apr 2016 #5

The same goes for the email investigation loyalsister Apr 2016 #10

someone was very stupid to think the server could remain hidden. grasswire Apr 2016 #14

Bingo. ....Lies , Deception and Secrets Segami Apr 2016 #15

is there a term for people who engage in extremely risky behavior? grasswire Apr 2016 #17

yes there is, it is called STUPIDITY n/t mrdmk Apr 2016 #24

Hubris. surrealAmerican Apr 2016 #25

I don't know a specific term but PTSD contributes to risk taking behavior. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #46

She could got PTSD Gwhittey Apr 2016 #105

That whole incident is just a microism of what I'm talking about. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #108

Shortly after Bill was elected to his first term, a reporter asked Hillary senz Apr 2016 #19

I have said the same thing loyalsister Apr 2016 #79

the only word I have for this is "DIABOLICAL" grasswire Apr 2016 #91

Truly loyalsister Apr 2016 #97

yes, good points nt grasswire Apr 2016 #98

I believe the term you may be searching for is 2banon Apr 2016 #107

I guess so. grasswire Apr 2016 #110

Don't forget the Republicans got away with it with the RNC, so there IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #99

and reckless narcissistic risk taking nt grasswire Apr 2016 #102

The Clintons have earned tens of millions from their books jfern Apr 2016 #20

Yes, and >$600k/yr in federal pensions... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #87

Don't forget the Foundation Gwhittey Apr 2016 #106

Except she doesn't do kitchens! peace13 Apr 2016 #28

Bernie could have avoided scrutiny of his tax returns by finding different work. pnwmom Apr 2016 #31

That's a ridiculous comparison Armstead Apr 2016 #36

His tax returns aren't public knowledge but they should be if he's a serious candidate. pnwmom Apr 2016 #42

yeah I'm sure they're hiding something. Armstead Apr 2016 #44

Probably their very low tax rate as a result of high deductions. Also very low charitable, pnwmom Apr 2016 #47

LOL! nashville_brook Apr 2016 #96

your example is purely silly grasswire Apr 2016 #113

Plenty of people do. Just not Bernie supporters. I personally think he took a lot of deductions pnwmom Apr 2016 #114

Perhaps the same could be said about you. Think what you might have accomplished politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2016 #112

K&R'd. snot Apr 2016 #6

"She sounded more like a Goldman Sachs managing director" said the witness. bjo59 Apr 2016 #7

I LOVE the Chicago Tribune!! Jack Bone Apr 2016 #8

The same paper that can't give Rauner too vigorous of a rubdown? nemo137 Apr 2016 #73

Here in central Indiana Redstate hell ... Jack Bone Apr 2016 #104

she knew what she was doing and how to bbgrunt Apr 2016 #9

'Cash in'? If she was as greedy as you imagine, you'd think she would own a fleet of yachts by now. randome Apr 2016 #68

Well they were dead broke fifteen years ago so give them time bahrbearian Apr 2016 #72

Real power doesn't role like that NWCorona Apr 2016 #78

Logical fallacy instead of reasoned response. arcane1 Apr 2016 #80

Except she extorted her cash, Trump & Romney more or less "earned it".. Yurovsky Apr 2016 #88

I think we all expect the same thing which is the most likely thing - duplicity. Unicorn Apr 2016 #11

You'd have to be a naive gullible LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #12

Bernie needs to release his tax returns. One year's worth doesn't cut it. She's released 30. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #32

Second verse, same as the first Beowulf Apr 2016 #58

and and F-35's , .... Sexisim ... Racist...am I missing any? bahrbearian Apr 2016 #74

I expect they'd have been fine with her just reciting the alphabet. Marr Apr 2016 #119

Well, here's one GS speech. moriah Apr 2016 #13

newsbin grasswire Apr 2016 #18

It's been on youtube since 2014. Right here. pnwmom Apr 2016 #34

That's a public speech for the Clinton Global Iniative Armstead Apr 2016 #38

That was a private speech sponsored by Goldman Sachs for their Women's Entrepreneur initiative. pnwmom Apr 2016 #43

How about this? Armstead Apr 2016 #53

No. The tax returns come first. They are the standard, not speech transcripts. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #54

Well we're at a deadlock then Armstead Apr 2016 #55

who put you in charge, anyway? grasswire Apr 2016 #121

Her attempts to deflect with that video are simply dishonest, she's claiming that is the Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #56

DailyNewsBin = David Brock Segami Apr 2016 #21

Sorry, thanks. Was posting for the video in it, though. moriah Apr 2016 #22

Then watch it here. pnwmom Apr 2016 #33

A public speech for the Clinton Global Initiative Armstead Apr 2016 #39

Not a public speech. This was a Goldman Sachs event and it wasn't open to the public. And it was pnwmom Apr 2016 #45

That's why it says Goldman Sachs on the podium.....oh wait... (nt) jeff47 Apr 2016 #69

That's why Goldman Sachs shows this speech on its website. pnwmom Apr 2016 #83

Here, lemme bold the part you keep desperately ignoring. jeff47 Apr 2016 #84

So what? The Goldman Sachs initiative hosted its own annual dinner, at which HRC spoke. pnwmom Apr 2016 #85

Chicago Tribune: Why now? It's almost a done deal. why now? snowy owl Apr 2016 #16

A good question indeed. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #26

Too little too late. Broward Apr 2016 #49

K&R CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #23

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #27

Still waiting for Bernie and Donald's tax returns . . . as all candidates have provided pnwmom Apr 2016 #30

To repeat..... Armstead Apr 2016 #37

Let's be real. I love Bernie, but barring a miracle he's out of it. Vinca Apr 2016 #50

Vinca, think of Bernie the way we think of that mid-century tray. grasswire Apr 2016 #94

My opinion. Paying someone ridiculous money to blab Lint Head Apr 2016 #57

You do realize that Goldman Sachs does contribute many worthy social programs. They as many Jitter65 Apr 2016 #63

Are they tax write-offs? Are they donations to the Clinton Foundation? imagine2015 Apr 2016 #64

But wait... ljm2002 Apr 2016 #65

The "NOBODY CARES" meme is a David Brock talking point... Segami Apr 2016 #66

Then so is the Washington Post, New York Times and a slew of others - all dupes! riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #67

Hillary is an escape artist, disguise artist, don't fall for her lie. Please, wake up. kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #70

true dat. grasswire Apr 2016 #92

No one gets THAT kind of money, talking with These kinds of people Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author potisok Apr 2016 #86

I don't even get why you capitalize certain words and not others anymore Maven Apr 2016 #75

Its a code demwing Apr 2016 #82

"Clinton could have avoided scrutiny by finding different work." dchill Apr 2016 #77

yes grasswire Apr 2016 #93

The TRUTH must be worse than the SPECULATION demwing Apr 2016 #81

It's hard to tell with the Clintons... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #89

"We're guessing" displacedtexan Apr 2016 #90

Anyone with a lick of common sense knows Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #95

don't think it matters what clinton says on any given day. mooseprime Apr 2016 #100

She's accepting a good bit of damage to keep them secret, so they must be bad tabasco Apr 2016 #101

Hillary Kissinger Nixon W. Bush Clinton John Poet Apr 2016 #111

The blanket statement that this wasn't about buying influence. Really? Skwmom Apr 2016 #115

She could've stood there and juggled oranges for five minutes, for all Goldman Sachs cared. Marr Apr 2016 #120

She said don't worry about the calls for addressing climate change. raouldukelives Apr 2016 #123