2016 Postmortem

JackRiddler

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90. Not at all. And the question strikes me as disingenuous.

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:51 PM

Apr 2016

Ever wonder why the machine politicians and rich people who run the Congress as a self-service cornucopia for corporate lobbyists and billionaires don't do anything to end the system of legalized bribery that put almost all of them in their seats?

Your question is actually the reverse of the reality: How do the few honest people amongst them stand to deal with the overwhelming majority of gangsters, fakers and poobahs?

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Ever wonder why Bernie has few superdelegates from his peers??? [View all] CK_John Apr 2016 OP

Because he's no more tolerant or compromising that his followers on DU. "Hides" are their currency. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #1

So you are saying he is boring, and doesn't work well with others. CK_John Apr 2016 #6

To put it mildly. His followers are even less tolerant. STOP THE "HIDES" !!!!! Trust Buster Apr 2016 #8

Pride and vanity. It appears that he'd rather accomplish ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #12

It's hard to deal with an Ideologue on a working basis. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #16

Which 'auto bailout' are you talking about? beedle Apr 2016 #40

Shhhhh! nolawarlock Apr 2016 #95

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #28

Because Hillary bribed 33 state parties and tied up their super-Ds even before either announced floriduck Apr 2016 #57

Bribed? Buzz cook Apr 2016 #77

Bribed in the legal sense. floriduck Apr 2016 #97

Counterpunch is not a reliable source. Buzz cook Apr 2016 #100

I can also provide the same article from NPR. Facts are facts. floriduck Apr 2016 #106

The same article? Buzz cook Apr 2016 #113

You decide. floriduck Apr 2016 #115

Proof? fun n serious Apr 2016 #92

Right, the "King of Amendments" is unable to compromise with his colleagues. frylock Apr 2016 #83

What could possibly explain it? People living off the system want to maintain the system. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #2

Ellison and Grijalva. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #3

They aren't in the Senate. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #5

They're in the House Progressive Caucus that Sanders works closely with. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #11

The OP does not mention the Senate, he mentions Superdelegates and all Congresspersons Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #24

They count, but Ellison was sworn in after Sanders left the House. KitSileya Apr 2016 #78

Grijalva? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #96

No. n/t Orsino Apr 2016 #4

Ask Patrick Murphy - Clinton Enemies List. MgtPA Apr 2016 #7

Reading body language signals a shy person Funtatlaguy Apr 2016 #9

This is me. Maybe that's part of what I like about him. He seems real to me because, Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #27

Because you don't cross the Clinton Machine. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #10

^== This. nt IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #30

This is why I have so much respect for Tulsi Gabbard nt vintx Apr 2016 #41

Yep, a particularly brave woman to stand up against the machine. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #80

yup Armstead Apr 2016 #47

exactly. nt m-lekktor Apr 2016 #81

didn't they cross "the Clinton Machine" eight years ago when the SD switched to Obama? lunamagica Apr 2016 #86

The grip is tighter now than then. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #112

+1000 Punkingal Apr 2016 #98

Bingo! TDale313 Apr 2016 #103

+1 Unicorn Apr 2016 #107

Wonder? Nnnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #13

Oh, he says Inhofe is his buddy. Remember? KittyWampus Apr 2016 #14

Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Antonin Scalia were friends. redwitch Apr 2016 #61

Henry Kissinger and Hillary Clinton are friends. nt redwitch Apr 2016 #63

Hillary Clinton and Dubya are friends. nt redwitch Apr 2016 #64

a picture is worth a thousand words... Human101948 Apr 2016 #110

Jeff Merkley. morningfog Apr 2016 #15

OP heading changed to few. CK_John Apr 2016 #18

Because he's peerless? lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #17

And somehow you see this as a negative? tularetom Apr 2016 #19

You don't get it, do you? Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #21

What does that have to do with the topic? frylock Apr 2016 #84

The whole point of a democracy is working together anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #68

Clintons are notoriously vindictive. Its proven she's "bought" super delegates riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #20

Please supply this "proof" you refer to. onenote Apr 2016 #22

You beat me to it. The response will be : crickets COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #26

it's proven usually means, 'i read it on reddit and agree with it so its true' La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #45

I read it on Politico Armstead Apr 2016 #56

Sure. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #49

you mean her bribe is that she is fundraising for the DNC? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #53

Ah, ok. I thought you might have read the article riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #59

all of these articles say the same thing. the fact they can point to is that she fundraises for dems La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #60

I clearly see the quid pro quo riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #67

Vindictiveness does not translate to quid pro quo. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #69

I didn't mean for them to be linked. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #73

i am not surprised that irrational hatred and belief in right wing propaganda La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #72

I don't harbor irrational hatred riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #74

you realize DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #93

I've noticed that much of her peer support comes from DOMA yes voters and others who Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #23

You really shouldn't make assertions that can be fact-checked. onenote Apr 2016 #76

This is a failed meme. djean111 Apr 2016 #25

Nope. We've seen for three decades just how corrupt the Dem insiders are. Scuba Apr 2016 #29

Superdelegates Were Bought VIA Hillary Clinton Victory Fund Billsmile Apr 2016 #31

^^^^ Truth that isn't acknowledged by Clinton supporters or MSM. JudyM Apr 2016 #37

This. vintx Apr 2016 #39

Bingo. dchill Apr 2016 #52

I guess you have to include Sanders in the bought ones, she donated $10,000 Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #114

It's been said that he's difficult to get along with KingFlorez Apr 2016 #32

Some people say... frylock Apr 2016 #85

No. I know exactly why. They owe Clinton money. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #33

Because he's not a Democrat. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2016 #34

Let me guess the responses from Bernie supporters here: sufrommich Apr 2016 #35

It seems like because his proposals are too extreme... scepticism Apr 2016 #36

He wants to derail the Gravy Train. AzDar Apr 2016 #38

This vintx Apr 2016 #46

Because HRC campaigned for them. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #42

yes, i have. probably same reason he has less of the popular vote. Democrats like HRC more than Bern La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #43

If it were the same thing, then he'd have about 40% of SDs. NT Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #50

the trends are underlying reason are similar was my point La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #51

All 30% of you. frylock Apr 2016 #87

NO I do not case in point Donna Edwards azurnoir Apr 2016 #44

you know that Donna Edwards endorsed Hillary right nt forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #79

yes I do but she did not fall in line with Hillary's policies particularly in one area azurnoir Apr 2016 #94

no ibegurpard Apr 2016 #48

I do not wonder why at all SheenaR Apr 2016 #54

He's the only saint there? BootinUp Apr 2016 #55

That's easy. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #58

Oh, let's just be honest about this, ok? Marr Apr 2016 #62

Thank you! redwitch Apr 2016 #66

++ frylock Apr 2016 #88

so you are PROUD of the fact that she's gamed a very un-democratic part of the process? Yurovsky Apr 2016 #65

can't say as I did. I wonder a lot of things but, that was not one. No. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #70

Because it's pay to play TheFarseer Apr 2016 #71

HE'S NOT FEARED hollowdweller Apr 2016 #75

Fear of retribution from the Clinton Machine? frylock Apr 2016 #82

It's because of "ready for Hillary" loyalsister Apr 2016 #89

Not at all. And the question strikes me as disingenuous. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #90

Bernie played the my way or the highway card....rarely forge any beachbumbob Apr 2016 #91

No. Congress has been corrupt for a very long time. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #99

They are bought he is not...get it? bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #101

The congress with the 12% approval rating? n/t arcane1 Apr 2016 #102

Yes. Most politicians are bought out. Bernies peers include Elizabeth Warren. Unicorn Apr 2016 #104

No I haven't but I'm pretty sure you are going to tell me. Peregrine Took Apr 2016 #105

Something is wrong alright. What is wrong is Bernie stands for REAL change, the kind Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #108

Good bye you lack critical thinking skills. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #109

Because politicians need money to stay in power. The DNC, DCC, DSCC all give money to them. Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #111

During those 25 years he never took money from Corporatists, while more and more Cal33 Apr 2016 #116

Fantasy on your part. Go look up some facts. That is very superficial on your part. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #117

Elizabeth Warren has amassed more clout in her short time in the Senate. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #118