2016 Postmortem

NanceGreggs

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53. So John Lewis is now ...

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:11 PM

Apr 2016

... an easily-manipulated "stooge", who lies, misstates things, and implies things that are not true?

I've learned a lot about BS supporters over the past year, and one of the most glaring is that they literally have no shame. Calling a civil rights icon and American hero like John Lewis a "manipulated stooge" is just another example of how low they will sink.

Many of us have seen the posts by Bernie supporters on the FB pages/websites of people like Lewis, Al Franken, Gabby Giffords, Howard Dean - even Elizabeth Warren. Only people who are incapable of shame would post such despicable things.

And while those vile comments were being posted - and widely written about by journalists and political bloggers - Bernie stood by and said nothing, and did nothing. As has been said many times here on DU and elsewhere, in such situations silence means consent.

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Heads Up: Beware of any "Democrat" still supporting a corporate candidate [View all] cui bono Apr 2016 OP

Kick! kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #1

Heads Up: Beware of any "Democrat" still claiming this is a nothingburger. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #124

Heads Up: Beware of any "Democrat" still posting this crap. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #2

Yeah, so terrible of us trying to bring the party back from the center-right. cui bono Apr 2016 #3

And how is your advocating for not supporting the ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #10

Might be the harsh shock the party needs. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #12

"We had to burn the village to save the village!" 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #17

A loss in a presidential election doesn't burn down the party, though. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #20

We had 8 years of Bush. If THAT didn't get people motivated to get rid of the assholes, nothing kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2016 #106

The problem with the SCOTUS argument... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #107

The current POTUS already has one lined up nolabels May 2016 #167

It's a lose-lose IMHO... Yurovsky May 2016 #144

BushCheney wasn't a harsh enough shock? Good lord. Hekate Apr 2016 #127

You're expect one who helped take it right to bring it back again? Really? snowy owl Apr 2016 #13

Because a President trump will be so much more beneficial? Really? 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #18

When did he join the Democratic party, also who said he wanted to bring the party back left? Dragonfli Apr 2016 #22

Who do you suspect will be the Democratic nominee? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #35

Who do I suspect will be the Democratic nominee? I'll let you know when the primary is over. Dragonfli Apr 2016 #47

Okay. (Not worth the typing). 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #48

Is there an emoji... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #95

I don't know; but, if there is ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #99

I see you employed the ol' "I'm rubber... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #100

I'm just playing down to the competition ... that's a political strategy, too. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #101

It seems you got lost then... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #110

... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #112

We need a "shady" candidate to counter another "shady" candidate libdem4life Apr 2016 #57

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #65

Totally irrelevant to this conversation. libdem4life Apr 2016 #68

He will be as worst as Shillary, belonging to the same corporate corrupt class. insta8er Apr 2016 #62

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #67

You can't even admit the Dem Party is now center-right? Really? cui bono Apr 2016 #23

Because she is a corporate shill. Abundant proof of that..if you want to open your eyes. insta8er Apr 2016 #60

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #66

They have been heard mythology Apr 2016 #71

It boggles my mind that people think this was a fair primary where the people were presented cui bono Apr 2016 #72

Divisive social issues arikara Apr 2016 #105

Agreed. And HRC and her supporters started out of the gate with the false choice cui bono May 2016 #174

+1 obamanut2012 Apr 2016 #4

+1 lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #8

They just keep beating the same old, dead horse. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #37

No doubt. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #41

Yeah suck to lose, or right wing propaganda, or tin foil how about your candidate is a morally insta8er Apr 2016 #63

You actually used one of your valuable 425 posts on me? COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #92

Somehow you and a lot of others seem to equate seniority (on this site) to intelligence.. insta8er Apr 2016 #128

It would be funnier if I COLGATE4 May 2016 #145

You just did. insta8er May 2016 #148

The whoosing sound you heard was COLGATE4 May 2016 #164

A grammar/spelling naz. as well eh? :) you are funny..you should do standup! let me know insta8er May 2016 #168

You couldn't afford it. COLGATE4 May 2016 #169

I'll move heaven and earth to make it happen, would not want to miss it. insta8er May 2016 #171

Your post illustrates exactly what Hillary supporters do not understand about this primary. cui bono May 2016 #142

Pesky little things, facts and figures..I know, it's just is so inconvenient. insta8er Apr 2016 #59

Heads Up: Beware of any "Democrats" that post childish one line insult replies to... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #76

Whoa ... bern!!!! You, certainly, told me! 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #98

Yeah they did, actually. BlindTiresias Apr 2016 #135

It's disgusting what's happened to the party.. mcranor Apr 2016 #111

Do you hear yourself? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #114

The shape the party has taken. mcranor Apr 2016 #125

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2016 #126

K&R ... Trajan Apr 2016 #5

Yes ... Complete with our own facsimiles of the tea-party. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #11

by design - New Democrats, The DLC and the Third Way Dragonfli Apr 2016 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author potisok Apr 2016 #6

Vilianizing capitalism and success doesn't over the American voting public beachbumbob Apr 2016 #7

I'm over 45 and I vote. lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #9

That's called greed when you want it only for yourself. Wow. That's quite an admission. snowy owl Apr 2016 #14

That's what the essence of DLClinton boils down to... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #45

Yeah, How dare someone want to be successful & earn a living. ELITIST!! grossproffit Apr 2016 #64

Simplistic understanding. We are not villainizing either -- we believe the fruits of that success JudyM Apr 2016 #15

Easy ... Trajan Apr 2016 #49

over 45 here... RazBerryBeret Apr 2016 #102

Typical Hillary supporter beedle Apr 2016 #138

Beware of any "Democrat" who has followers that attack John Lewis and Dolores Huerta. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #16

Beware of any "Democrat" that manipulates civil rights leaders to be her stooge by lying cui bono Apr 2016 #26

So John Lewis is now ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #53

Okay, then he did it of his own volition. cui bono Apr 2016 #73

And if he had endorsed Bernie ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #74

Not if he had said what he said. You're just pulling that out of your backside. cui bono Apr 2016 #75

When someone refers to John Lewis ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #78

So you admit it's all in your mind. Glad you cleared that up. cui bono Apr 2016 #79

You referring to John Lewis ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #80

You are trying to extrapolate something that is unrelated to what I've said. cui bono Apr 2016 #81

You said what you said. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #82

LOL. And you think you are the principled one? You sound pretty immature to me there. cui bono Apr 2016 #83

You said what you said. Too late to walk it back. n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #84

LOL. I'm not walking anything back. I laid out a detailed reason for why I criticize Lewis. cui bono Apr 2016 #85

You said what you said. Too late to walk it back. n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #86

Did you short circuit? You should check your wiring. Maybe rest your brain for a bit. cui bono Apr 2016 #87

Beware any candidate who runs racist 3am ads against an AA candidate pinebox Apr 2016 #91

"democrat" in quotes is right workinclasszero Apr 2016 #121

Cui bono, indeed. Who benefits from this? Donald Trump, that's who. MineralMan Apr 2016 #19

Right. alan2102 Apr 2016 #90

Operation Chaos 2016. Its Hillary vs. Trump. Which side are you on? JaneyVee Apr 2016 #21

It is not Hillary vs trump. Are you kidding me? truedelphi Apr 2016 #28

You do understand that any idiot with $400 to COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #43

Wrong again. There are no primary winners. But which side are you on? cui bono Apr 2016 #30

You are one note argument. Loki Apr 2016 #140

You are not making any sense at all. cui bono May 2016 #141

Oh please, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Loki May 2016 #143

So whre is the link? The quote? I do NOT know what you are talking about. cui bono May 2016 #147

Look it up, your fingers obviously aren't broken. Loki May 2016 #149

And Hillary supporters want unity and people to vote for her. cui bono May 2016 #150

When you post lies, Loki May 2016 #156

So you're not trying to win converts. Got it. cui bono May 2016 #157

I don't have to, she's winning. Loki May 2016 #158

You will if she makes it to the GE. cui bono May 2016 #161

Kickity-kick, kick-kick. dinkytron Apr 2016 #24

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #27

You couldn't' be bothered to give us a list of the corporate candidates? brooklynite Apr 2016 #29

There is no people's movement underthematrix Apr 2016 #31

Clearly you have not been paying any attention to this primary. Or to OWS. cui bono Apr 2016 #32

I have. A group of angry working class whites is not a people's underthematrix Apr 2016 #34

How very elitist sounding. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #46

So you are just erasing all the minorities that support this movement? cui bono Apr 2016 #69

#BernieMadeMeWhite part 2? VulgarPoet May 2016 #166

The HRC DU Edition! cui bono May 2016 #173

Very telling, how the substance of your post is being ignored. Waiting For Everyman Apr 2016 #33

That does enable me to add to my ignore list, though. djean111 Apr 2016 #51

So, how many Hillary supporters have you converted with your vanity thread? nt procon Apr 2016 #36

That is the furthest thing from the poster's mind. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #50

Since you have these extraordinary mind reading powers, then what is the goal? procon Apr 2016 #55

It's a "look how pure I am" vanity post hack89 Apr 2016 #117

Heads up. No. seabeyond Apr 2016 #38

So I should not support the democratic Party candidate to teach them a lesson? rurallib Apr 2016 #39

Bill Clinton made speeches a cottage industry. joshcryer Apr 2016 #40

If you are serious about this, you will lead the charge here to get Democratic Squinch Apr 2016 #42

IF they were serious they would be challenging Sanders his lockheed/martin support at taxpayers seabeyond Apr 2016 #56

All this is true but what REALLY bugs me about many Sanders supporters is that they are Squinch Apr 2016 #58

Agreed. Anyone can stand up and say whatever. That is as far as he goes and that isn't good enough seabeyond Apr 2016 #61

They are no doubt part of the problem and stand in the way of progress. Broward Apr 2016 #44

I'll be nice when these sorts of posts will be considered ToS violations Tarc Apr 2016 #52

KnR chknltl Apr 2016 #54

K&R Carolina Apr 2016 #70

Kick nt Jack Bone Apr 2016 #77

I work for a corporation. Eko Apr 2016 #88

Perhaps not, but you should try to familiarize yourself with... Herman4747 Apr 2016 #122

While that was a lovely read, Eko Apr 2016 #129

Yet she voted with Sanders > 93% of the time. randome Apr 2016 #89

Question the 7% where she didn't. Iraq War etc. B Calm Apr 2016 #94

She voted in favor of the Iraq War Resolution, she did not start an unnecessary war. randome Apr 2016 #96

She also voted for Post office names artislife Apr 2016 #104

Those votes were her most impressive! Herman4747 Apr 2016 #119

Even the names were uncreative. artislife Apr 2016 #123

I repeat: Chimps share 99% DNA with humans. There's a difference. snowy owl Apr 2016 #130

Doesn't matter how much factual info you post. They will shout it down as false. snowy owl Apr 2016 #131

Your post illustrates exactly what Hillary supporters do not understand about this primary. cui bono May 2016 #151

DU LWolf Apr 2016 #93

You nailed it. Some dems don't know they are now republicans. snowy owl Apr 2016 #132

Discouraging is nowhere near strong enough. vintx Apr 2016 #134

to independent? Can you vote in primaries as an independent? snowy owl Apr 2016 #137

Yes. LWolf Apr 2016 #139

K&R me b zola Apr 2016 #97

Most elected officials are New Democrats, not traditional Democrats and certainly not traditional merrily Apr 2016 #103

K N R-ed Faux pas Apr 2016 #108

Our tent has been too damn big Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #109

FYI, someone will most likely alert on this thread. You just insulted all Clinton supporters plus kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2016 #113

K&R Great post. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #115

There it is. Plain as fucking day. Excellent post. nt JEB Apr 2016 #116

Now stop it! This is upsetting some in the HRC group TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #118

Who cares? The only people who have ever even mentioned this have been Sanders himself... George II Apr 2016 #120

Don't you love all that dumb luck... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #133

Heads up... better beware of... jcgoldie Apr 2016 #136

How embarassing for you. Your Dear Leader couldn't even come up with one example of influence R B Garr May 2016 #146

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I guess you don't know much about the various civil rights struggles we've had in this country. cui bono May 2016 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #154

Why were you at Zucotti Park? (I was there too, btw) cui bono May 2016 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #159

I don't think it actually failed though. It changed the conversation. cui bono May 2016 #160

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You're maybe winning a battle only to lose the war. cui bono May 2016 #163

They will do anything, and I do mean anything, to prevent a compassionate democracy Zorra May 2016 #165

"Corporations" and other "business" including the "wealthy" have always supported Democrats. apnu May 2016 #170

Bill Clinton made a decision to go the DLC way and DLC was formed specifically to change cui bono May 2016 #172