2016 Postmortem

snowy owl

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118. March numbers for dems who voted republican: 50,000 in PA;20,000 MA; 60,000 in VA.

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:33 AM

Apr 2016

Maybe more numbers in more states out there. On Maher tonight the conversation with Thomas Frank discussed the fact that the party has left working class Americans behind. These Bernie supporters could be a matter of voters going where they feel included. Or they may have been Republicans who switched over for the Bern and now are switching back. We need to know more.

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MSNBC just said that a recent poll shows Sanders supporters may vote for Trump [View all] tavernier Apr 2016 OP

Not surprised, in fact as I recall the Sanders campaign BootinUp Apr 2016 #1

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #31

What will Hillary do to earn our votes? Baobab Apr 2016 #40

Excellent questions n/t MissDeeds Apr 2016 #44

nothing enid602 Apr 2016 #54

Could you be more specific please? Baobab Apr 2016 #57

nada, zilch, zero etc Demsrule86 May 2016 #240

winning the primary only ever mattered BootinUp Apr 2016 #58

True Demsrule86 May 2016 #238

Because Trump is obviously too gentle and moral a soul thucythucy Apr 2016 #84

What's Trump doing to earn Sanders supporters votes? Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #102

Nope, we love those. She'd lose 60% to gain 7%. Hortensis Apr 2016 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #206

What an absurd, offensive thing to say MissDeeds Apr 2016 #47

You said it so much more nicely than I would have Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #78

Your response is representative of the tone from the Hillary campaign. hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #79

"Condescension without substance." Sums them up perfectly. senz Apr 2016 #104

Would it be better or worse judgement than voting for the Iraq war? Asking for a friend. n/t actslikeacarrot Apr 2016 #91

They weren't 'identified' but those of us on the ground found that when we talked to many Trump Live and Learn Apr 2016 #189

I talked to some, too NJCher May 2016 #226

Why not? White, privilege. No loss to them. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #2

I'll make sure to tell my Black Neighbor who voted for Trump that he needs to stop with the White Skwmom Apr 2016 #8

mmmm. Ya. There is the ticket. Go with that. seabeyond Apr 2016 #9

Gotta blame everything but the obvious. polly7 Apr 2016 #21

True. Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #35

It's a slooooow process. We must be sure to get the Republicans out of congress first. They kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2016 #165

We *had* Congress, then Obama prioritized bailing out the banks instead of Main Street. w4rma Apr 2016 #194

POTUS also hires & fires and can influence whether/how laws/policies are enforced TheDormouse Apr 2016 #196

heehee +1 840high Apr 2016 #37

White male privilege. Yavin4 Apr 2016 #49

I thought we stopped lying about Bernie supporters being all men? merrily Apr 2016 #85

Trump has made multiple good statements about planned parenthood. runaway hero Apr 2016 #109

I don't trust a word that Trump says. Abortion is NOT a wash. yardwork Apr 2016 #137

Any rumor that he will ban it is false runaway hero Apr 2016 #147

Wrong. The Supreme Court can undo Roe v Wade at any time. yardwork Apr 2016 #150

I don't believe so runaway hero Apr 2016 #151

You're missing the point. Trump will appoint right wing Supreme Court justices. yardwork Apr 2016 #153

Trump is center right runaway hero Apr 2016 #156

lol @ center Republican. Mr. 'deport 11 million people' is Radical RW batshit crazy Republican. Sunlei Apr 2016 #162

You are aware most people don't like illegal immigration runaway hero Apr 2016 #164

sure, in the simple, shallow-people hating- Republican tone. Sunlei Apr 2016 #170

The majority of the country runaway hero Apr 2016 #172

You're wrong. Don't elect Republicans. Sunlei Apr 2016 #175

prove otherwise. runaway hero Apr 2016 #188

I'm much happier with undocumented friends & neighbors. You should really speak for yourself. Sunlei Apr 2016 #191

You should not be condoning criminal behaviour runaway hero Apr 2016 #192

My opinion is you're another Republican people hater. Sunlei Apr 2016 #193

Ha. runaway hero Apr 2016 #195

My opinion is all people matter, Sunlei Apr 2016 #201

A crime is a crime. runaway hero Apr 2016 #204

yes, in America everyone has rights including thieves. Sunlei Apr 2016 #207

Thieves are mostly citizens runaway hero Apr 2016 #210

Are you related to Trump? Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #242

I'm a realist. runaway hero May 2016 #243

You don't seem to understand how our Supreme Court works. Sunlei Apr 2016 #203

It's not politically convenient. runaway hero Apr 2016 #205

"Politics Schmolitics", I don't give a shit about politics. Sunlei Apr 2016 #208

I'm not a trumpie runaway hero Apr 2016 #209

nope, that thirdway is bogus. I only donated to Sanders, but I'll vote for the D primary winner. Sunlei May 2016 #222

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #66

The establishment exists to preserve white privilege AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #101

And lookie, an old white man sitting smack in the middle of that establishment attracting other seabeyond Apr 2016 #105

Sanders has always been an outsider AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #121

Sanders fits the definition of establishment to the T. seabeyond Apr 2016 #136

The guy who criticizes booth parties is an insider? pinebox Apr 2016 #140

Sanders is the definition of establishment and an hoot was everyone tries to pretend otherwise. seabeyond Apr 2016 #143

Uh........"establishment" refers to the 2 party system, but you wouldn't know pinebox Apr 2016 #145

The Establishment: A small group that dominates a larger organization AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #181

As I said, the very definition of Sanders. seabeyond Apr 2016 #182

A small group that dominates a larger organization, like the DNC AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #183

Or like the congress. You jsut keep making my point. seabeyond Apr 2016 #184

Right. White men, like those in your family, don't need medical care from the ACA. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #117

We've got a few here. grossproffit Apr 2016 #3

I certainly won't vote for the Donald. floriduck Apr 2016 #7

I'm supprised that there hasn't nee a post made... Matt_R Apr 2016 #212

. baldguy Apr 2016 #4

We'll not all of them are Democrats, so that's certainly the case...especially if we don't silvershadow Apr 2016 #5

Thom Hartmann CobaltBlue Apr 2016 #20

I welcome them to the party. What else do you feel lovemydog Apr 2016 #53

I am not asserting you or anyone else isn't or won't. I'm just saying that, like it or not, silvershadow Apr 2016 #60

Thanks for your kind reply. lovemydog Apr 2016 #61

You are welcome. silvershadow Apr 2016 #65

Jill Stein Baobab Apr 2016 #94

Thanks for your reply. lovemydog Apr 2016 #125

I think we will see a new Progressive Party Emerge INdemo Apr 2016 #67

I suspect that could be true. I'm staying right here to fight for The New Deal and Union labor. silvershadow Apr 2016 #72

True but I think the new Progressive party will be a strong advocate for organized labor INdemo Apr 2016 #75

And never reach critical mass on its' own. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #83

too late, plus it would likely be another scam. Baobab Apr 2016 #96

You're sad we're not doing enough to attract those Trump voters? Which policies, exactly, are you Squinch Apr 2016 #70

Huh? JaneyVee Apr 2016 #6

Doesn't surprise me. Most of his supporters one from long Independents and folk who haven't Jitter65 Apr 2016 #10

so much for being more liberal than clinton. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #11

That's the point!! Jack Bone Apr 2016 #41

lol. have you seen his tax policy? do social issues which impact the rest of us so much La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #43

I'm not voting for him...my wifey might Jack Bone Apr 2016 #48

My daughter and a some others will be writing in "Bernie Sanders." Petrushka May 2016 #229

Some will poll that way. They like rallies and insults. They don't like voting Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #12

Those who make such a claim Andy823 Apr 2016 #13

Were never going to vote for a Democrat in the first place DJ13 Apr 2016 #90

Its about other things too. Baobab Apr 2016 #167

Exactly. okasha Apr 2016 #99

This old Bernie supporter madokie Apr 2016 #14

Well...THIS Sanders supporter would never do that Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #15

Yup, we've got to turn not mattering astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #30

"Supporters." joshcryer Apr 2016 #16

Realistically CobaltBlue Apr 2016 #17

Assuming that the numbers are correct. If you give in to blackmail once, you'll be politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2016 #18

I dont believe you know what Bernie Sanders will do. INdemo Apr 2016 #69

And guess what, I'm not going to lose any sleep wondering what Bernie Sanders will do either. politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2016 #74

In this you are correct: Your opinion isn't worth a hill of beans. Bohunk68 Apr 2016 #130

Classy comeback. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #163

I don't doubt this. Barack_America Apr 2016 #19

Why does this surprise anyone? Codeine Apr 2016 #22

Leaving now to look up inchoate ... tavernier Apr 2016 #23

Sigh Red Mountain Apr 2016 #24

Your post sounds like Trump with a thesaurus n/t arcane1 Apr 2016 #55

Since when is "inchoate" such a weird word? Codeine Apr 2016 #64

And how did that sound like Trump? That was weird! Squinch Apr 2016 #71

it isn't obamanut2012 Apr 2016 #131

I never said it was weird; tavernier Apr 2016 #142

Some might, most won't. bigwillq Apr 2016 #25

Anyone that would vote for that fascist bigot over Hillary tammywammy Apr 2016 #26

Which is the worst of two evils? ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #134

Same % as voted for Bush in 2000. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #27

Given how much they love their Republican talking points, this was predictable. nt procon Apr 2016 #28

After the despicable way she has behaved and the vile behavior of many Android3.14 Apr 2016 #29

+1000 MissDeeds Apr 2016 #68

I am not there yet. Was almost there, but no... Xyzse Apr 2016 #98

Look, the Democratic Party can work 2 include Bernie supporters or it can shit on them as many DUers highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #32

This ^^^^^ libdem4life Apr 2016 #81

+1 snowy owl Apr 2016 #89

That goes both ways mythology Apr 2016 #217

I am well aware that both sides have said nasty things, but that is not the point that is being made highprincipleswork May 2016 #221

Fuck anyone who votes for Trumps racist ass uponit7771 May 2016 #230

Just stop. danimich1 Apr 2016 #33

For every one "Bernie voter" that won't vote for Hillary ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #34

The candidates will debate... Blanks Apr 2016 #36

Trump hates black folk, including my black ass. He won't get a vote from me. period. desmiller Apr 2016 #38

Trump is an anti-semite and a racist. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #52

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #63

I bet most of them change their minds by November. Ilsa Apr 2016 #39

Then Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #42

Nope. The reasons are there and are not going away nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #45

News flash... Not everyone is engaged and informed... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #46

Preach it. TheDormouse Apr 2016 #197

If I could amend my comment... Yurovsky May 2016 #223

And as Obama said ... TheDormouse Apr 2016 #198

They are so uninformed and gullible. ecstatic May 2016 #245

"Throw ALL the bums out!" is what I hear from Trump supporters. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #50

We had a nice run. Obama lifted us in the eyes of other nations. So, now that's over. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #82

'MSNBC said .... ' Trajan Apr 2016 #51

Read it and weep. (nt) Ino Apr 2016 #56

I may not vote for Hillary but no way in hell.. yourout Apr 2016 #59

and the propaganda continues glinda Apr 2016 #62

Corporate TV is a propaganda wing of the 1% SHRED Apr 2016 #73

I dont know anyone who will do that marlakay Apr 2016 #76

Anyone who votes for Trump approves of his racist, bigoted, misogynistic, totalitatarian Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #77

+1000 stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #128

Nice try. bvf Apr 2016 #80

As in every Presidential, the Democrats who vote Republican are far more likely to merrily Apr 2016 #86

Totally agree. snowy owl Apr 2016 #87

MSNBC should worry about that given their abuse of Bernie in the campaign. snowy owl Apr 2016 #88

And they all post here on DU. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2016 #92

No they don't. You assume too much bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #177

Possibly but at least as many GOP voters, women for example, will vote for Hillary. ucrdem Apr 2016 #93

there will be a few, but it's going to be a small minority 0rganism Apr 2016 #95

I'm sure you can find some people who will say that, but I doubt it will be widespread Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2016 #97

MSNBC is FOX news lite AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #100

*pffft* I'd happily slit my own throat before I'd vote for ANY republican. nt Zorra Apr 2016 #103

I've said it before, Sanders supporters are not idiots. moriah Apr 2016 #106

Probably some runaway hero Apr 2016 #107

That poll shows how some people feel about Hillary. senz Apr 2016 #108

I think the Bernie supporters who decide not to vote will be a greater factor. frylock Apr 2016 #110

They are not wrong. basselope Apr 2016 #111

Trump represents everything wrong with the real Establishment. moriah Apr 2016 #113

Having worked along side many Bernie supporters these last several months... basselope Apr 2016 #171

Is this hatred directed specifically at Hillary, or at both Hill/Bill? TheDormouse Apr 2016 #200

The DNC in general. basselope Apr 2016 #218

Both Hillary and Donald runaway hero Apr 2016 #112

It could be about jobs Rass Apr 2016 #114

Eleven percent are projected to vote for Trump Samantha Apr 2016 #115

More will probably just stay home or vote 3rd party jfern Apr 2016 #116

March numbers for dems who voted republican: 50,000 in PA;20,000 MA; 60,000 in VA. snowy owl Apr 2016 #118

Well if Msnbc - the station that has breaking news to tell us that Trump sneezed - said it, it must jillan Apr 2016 #119

At least some of us have decided that voting for the lesser of two evils SheilaT Apr 2016 #120

Not much of a surprise ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #122

As Menken said, Beacool Apr 2016 #123

Since I am a Democrat and like progressive ideas, voting for Trump IS NOT going to Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #124

When one subtracts ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #126

It is probably a small group... Mike Nelson Apr 2016 #127

polls indicated that a chunk of Hillary supporters would vote for McCain quaker bill Apr 2016 #129

Many of us realize what a danger she poses to our country ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #132

I can't think of a single reason why anyone with 3 firing neurons would vote for Trump. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #133

I will still vote for the Democratic nominee. I do think there will be many who B Calm Apr 2016 #135

I have a FB "friend" who is adamant about voting for Trump, if she's denied Bernie. no_hypocrisy Apr 2016 #138

One poll showed that about 10% of Sanders and 11% of Trump supporters would vote for the other pampango Apr 2016 #139

Most I've seen will vote for Jill Stein. I've seen 1 who said Trump pinebox Apr 2016 #141

In 2008 the PUMA's said they'd vote for McCain instead of Obama Larkspur Apr 2016 #144

I've seen tons of anecdotal evidence of this on Facebook justiceischeap Apr 2016 #146

Number 2: Why? runaway hero Apr 2016 #159

I am more than sure there are people who proclaim progressivism justiceischeap Apr 2016 #166

Of course but that's not even the majority of Bernie fans runaway hero Apr 2016 #168

My point though, is that most likely these people proclaiming they'll support Trump justiceischeap Apr 2016 #169

Clinton is the weakest dem in some time. runaway hero Apr 2016 #173

If she's the weakest Dem, why is she beating Bernie? justiceischeap Apr 2016 #174

Because 57 percent of America dislikes her runaway hero Apr 2016 #187

She beats Cruz too. justiceischeap Apr 2016 #214

She's within the margin of error with cruz, toss up runaway hero Apr 2016 #219

Don't get me wrong runaway hero Apr 2016 #220

While I don't do loyalty oaths, LWolf Apr 2016 #148

Oh my LaurenG Apr 2016 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #152

Well that would certainly prove that they never cared about Sanders platform, just unhinged hatred. JTFrog Apr 2016 #154

Right workinclasszero Apr 2016 #176

well heaven05 Apr 2016 #157

Sanders supporters will vote Sanders. Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #158

I guess those republicans will also vote for congress Rs to keep the slave $7 minimum federal wage Sunlei Apr 2016 #160

Truthiness is a powerful lure. mia Apr 2016 #161

Setting up the Excuses for her loss Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #178

I don't know what has gotten in to me lately, but I have been saying these words a lot; bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #179

My vote is my own lmbradford Apr 2016 #180

based on responses from 931 active-duty troops, reservists and members of the National BlueStateLib Apr 2016 #185

Well my dauhter says... lmbradford Apr 2016 #186

I wonder how many people would wait in line for 5 hours to write a name in? TheDormouse Apr 2016 #199

lol bullshit JesterCS Apr 2016 #190

Not gonna happen. nt killbotfactory Apr 2016 #202

Nobody I know will vote for Trump many will write in Sanders others dr60omg Apr 2016 #211

Do you think if Sanders were leading that posts like this would be saying... Matt_R Apr 2016 #213

Aren't I clever and devious? tavernier May 2016 #234

It was an honest question. You opened pandoras box by making claims about Sanders supporters. Matt_R May 2016 #246

Trump is an open racist, and the Sanders people find that very offensive The Second Stone Apr 2016 #215

How's that "Tough shit lybrils, where ya gonna go?" thing working out for Camp Lying Liars? 99Forever Apr 2016 #216

This poll must have been trolled. apnu May 2016 #224

Nor do I, so that's reassuring. But I know tavernier May 2016 #233

I will never ever vote for Donald Trump, or Donald Drumpf either, for that matter. Never. nt Electric Monk May 2016 #225

Beauty of this thing hereforthevoting May 2016 #227

They are not wrong. It has been discussed quite at length and repeatedly here. Short story: silvershadow May 2016 #228

Yeap, the same faction of dems who hate Obama will support the guy who calls him Kenyan.... uponit7771 May 2016 #231

I'm not surprised eggman67 May 2016 #232

Not surprising. Sparkly May 2016 #235

Meh. There are idiots all over this country Stuckinthebush May 2016 #236

It says something about their character or lack there of. Demsrule86 May 2016 #237

I will not vote for Trump or Hillary. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #239

Right you are. tavernier May 2016 #241

Closed primaries, please. We don't need Trump loving clowns picking ecstatic May 2016 #244