2016 Postmortem

cui bono

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75. Not if he had said what he said. You're just pulling that out of your backside.

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:32 AM

Apr 2016

There is no indication in what I said to lead you to believe what you posted. Facts are facts. Lewis said something ridiculous to smear Bernie, whether intentional or not, and he walked it back when he got well deserved flack for it.

I know this concept is foreign to you but some people actually stand on principles. Believe it or not I have defended Hillary on here. I doubt you have ever even considered defending Bernie against all the nasty smears that have been posted on here. Because you see, this concept that you cannot seem to grasp is that some people stand up for facts and truth and don't defend or smear people just because they are or are not their chosen one.

And some people get so caught up idolizing their chosen one they are apologists. And that just makes one throw away all principles because you are defending a person rather than allowing yourself to employ critical thinking.

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Heads Up: Beware of any "Democrat" still supporting a corporate candidate [View all] cui bono Apr 2016 OP

Kick! kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #1

Heads Up: Beware of any "Democrat" still claiming this is a nothingburger. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #124

Heads Up: Beware of any "Democrat" still posting this crap. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #2

Yeah, so terrible of us trying to bring the party back from the center-right. cui bono Apr 2016 #3

And how is your advocating for not supporting the ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #10

Might be the harsh shock the party needs. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #12

"We had to burn the village to save the village!" 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #17

A loss in a presidential election doesn't burn down the party, though. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #20

We had 8 years of Bush. If THAT didn't get people motivated to get rid of the assholes, nothing kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2016 #106

The problem with the SCOTUS argument... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #107

The current POTUS already has one lined up nolabels May 2016 #167

It's a lose-lose IMHO... Yurovsky May 2016 #144

BushCheney wasn't a harsh enough shock? Good lord. Hekate Apr 2016 #127

You're expect one who helped take it right to bring it back again? Really? snowy owl Apr 2016 #13

Because a President trump will be so much more beneficial? Really? 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #18

When did he join the Democratic party, also who said he wanted to bring the party back left? Dragonfli Apr 2016 #22

Who do you suspect will be the Democratic nominee? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #35

Who do I suspect will be the Democratic nominee? I'll let you know when the primary is over. Dragonfli Apr 2016 #47

Okay. (Not worth the typing). 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #48

Is there an emoji... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #95

I don't know; but, if there is ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #99

I see you employed the ol' "I'm rubber... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #100

I'm just playing down to the competition ... that's a political strategy, too. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #101

It seems you got lost then... Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #110

... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #112

We need a "shady" candidate to counter another "shady" candidate libdem4life Apr 2016 #57

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #65

Totally irrelevant to this conversation. libdem4life Apr 2016 #68

He will be as worst as Shillary, belonging to the same corporate corrupt class. insta8er Apr 2016 #62

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #67

You can't even admit the Dem Party is now center-right? Really? cui bono Apr 2016 #23

Because she is a corporate shill. Abundant proof of that..if you want to open your eyes. insta8er Apr 2016 #60

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #66

They have been heard mythology Apr 2016 #71

It boggles my mind that people think this was a fair primary where the people were presented cui bono Apr 2016 #72

Divisive social issues arikara Apr 2016 #105

Agreed. And HRC and her supporters started out of the gate with the false choice cui bono May 2016 #174

+1 obamanut2012 Apr 2016 #4

+1 lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #8

They just keep beating the same old, dead horse. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #37

No doubt. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #41

Yeah suck to lose, or right wing propaganda, or tin foil how about your candidate is a morally insta8er Apr 2016 #63

You actually used one of your valuable 425 posts on me? COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #92

Somehow you and a lot of others seem to equate seniority (on this site) to intelligence.. insta8er Apr 2016 #128

It would be funnier if I COLGATE4 May 2016 #145

You just did. insta8er May 2016 #148

The whoosing sound you heard was COLGATE4 May 2016 #164

A grammar/spelling naz. as well eh? :) you are funny..you should do standup! let me know insta8er May 2016 #168

You couldn't afford it. COLGATE4 May 2016 #169

I'll move heaven and earth to make it happen, would not want to miss it. insta8er May 2016 #171

Your post illustrates exactly what Hillary supporters do not understand about this primary. cui bono May 2016 #142

Pesky little things, facts and figures..I know, it's just is so inconvenient. insta8er Apr 2016 #59

Heads Up: Beware of any "Democrats" that post childish one line insult replies to... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #76

Whoa ... bern!!!! You, certainly, told me! 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #98

Yeah they did, actually. BlindTiresias Apr 2016 #135

It's disgusting what's happened to the party.. mcranor Apr 2016 #111

Do you hear yourself? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #114

The shape the party has taken. mcranor Apr 2016 #125

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2016 #126

K&R ... Trajan Apr 2016 #5

Yes ... Complete with our own facsimiles of the tea-party. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #11

by design - New Democrats, The DLC and the Third Way Dragonfli Apr 2016 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author potisok Apr 2016 #6

Vilianizing capitalism and success doesn't over the American voting public beachbumbob Apr 2016 #7

I'm over 45 and I vote. lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #9

That's called greed when you want it only for yourself. Wow. That's quite an admission. snowy owl Apr 2016 #14

That's what the essence of DLClinton boils down to... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #45

Yeah, How dare someone want to be successful & earn a living. ELITIST!! grossproffit Apr 2016 #64

Simplistic understanding. We are not villainizing either -- we believe the fruits of that success JudyM Apr 2016 #15

Easy ... Trajan Apr 2016 #49

over 45 here... RazBerryBeret Apr 2016 #102

Typical Hillary supporter beedle Apr 2016 #138

Beware of any "Democrat" who has followers that attack John Lewis and Dolores Huerta. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #16

Beware of any "Democrat" that manipulates civil rights leaders to be her stooge by lying cui bono Apr 2016 #26

So John Lewis is now ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #53

Okay, then he did it of his own volition. cui bono Apr 2016 #73

And if he had endorsed Bernie ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #74

Not if he had said what he said. You're just pulling that out of your backside. cui bono Apr 2016 #75

When someone refers to John Lewis ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #78

So you admit it's all in your mind. Glad you cleared that up. cui bono Apr 2016 #79

You referring to John Lewis ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #80

You are trying to extrapolate something that is unrelated to what I've said. cui bono Apr 2016 #81

You said what you said. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #82

LOL. And you think you are the principled one? You sound pretty immature to me there. cui bono Apr 2016 #83

You said what you said. Too late to walk it back. n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #84

LOL. I'm not walking anything back. I laid out a detailed reason for why I criticize Lewis. cui bono Apr 2016 #85

You said what you said. Too late to walk it back. n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #86

Did you short circuit? You should check your wiring. Maybe rest your brain for a bit. cui bono Apr 2016 #87

Beware any candidate who runs racist 3am ads against an AA candidate pinebox Apr 2016 #91

"democrat" in quotes is right workinclasszero Apr 2016 #121

Cui bono, indeed. Who benefits from this? Donald Trump, that's who. MineralMan Apr 2016 #19

Right. alan2102 Apr 2016 #90

Operation Chaos 2016. Its Hillary vs. Trump. Which side are you on? JaneyVee Apr 2016 #21

It is not Hillary vs trump. Are you kidding me? truedelphi Apr 2016 #28

You do understand that any idiot with $400 to COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #43

Wrong again. There are no primary winners. But which side are you on? cui bono Apr 2016 #30

You are one note argument. Loki Apr 2016 #140

You are not making any sense at all. cui bono May 2016 #141

Oh please, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Loki May 2016 #143

So whre is the link? The quote? I do NOT know what you are talking about. cui bono May 2016 #147

Look it up, your fingers obviously aren't broken. Loki May 2016 #149

And Hillary supporters want unity and people to vote for her. cui bono May 2016 #150

When you post lies, Loki May 2016 #156

So you're not trying to win converts. Got it. cui bono May 2016 #157

I don't have to, she's winning. Loki May 2016 #158

You will if she makes it to the GE. cui bono May 2016 #161

Kickity-kick, kick-kick. dinkytron Apr 2016 #24

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #27

You couldn't' be bothered to give us a list of the corporate candidates? brooklynite Apr 2016 #29

There is no people's movement underthematrix Apr 2016 #31

Clearly you have not been paying any attention to this primary. Or to OWS. cui bono Apr 2016 #32

I have. A group of angry working class whites is not a people's underthematrix Apr 2016 #34

How very elitist sounding. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #46

So you are just erasing all the minorities that support this movement? cui bono Apr 2016 #69

#BernieMadeMeWhite part 2? VulgarPoet May 2016 #166

The HRC DU Edition! cui bono May 2016 #173

Very telling, how the substance of your post is being ignored. Waiting For Everyman Apr 2016 #33

That does enable me to add to my ignore list, though. djean111 Apr 2016 #51

So, how many Hillary supporters have you converted with your vanity thread? nt procon Apr 2016 #36

That is the furthest thing from the poster's mind. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #50

Since you have these extraordinary mind reading powers, then what is the goal? procon Apr 2016 #55

It's a "look how pure I am" vanity post hack89 Apr 2016 #117

Heads up. No. seabeyond Apr 2016 #38

So I should not support the democratic Party candidate to teach them a lesson? rurallib Apr 2016 #39

Bill Clinton made speeches a cottage industry. joshcryer Apr 2016 #40

If you are serious about this, you will lead the charge here to get Democratic Squinch Apr 2016 #42

IF they were serious they would be challenging Sanders his lockheed/martin support at taxpayers seabeyond Apr 2016 #56

All this is true but what REALLY bugs me about many Sanders supporters is that they are Squinch Apr 2016 #58

Agreed. Anyone can stand up and say whatever. That is as far as he goes and that isn't good enough seabeyond Apr 2016 #61

They are no doubt part of the problem and stand in the way of progress. Broward Apr 2016 #44

I'll be nice when these sorts of posts will be considered ToS violations Tarc Apr 2016 #52

KnR chknltl Apr 2016 #54

K&R Carolina Apr 2016 #70

Kick nt Jack Bone Apr 2016 #77

I work for a corporation. Eko Apr 2016 #88

Perhaps not, but you should try to familiarize yourself with... Herman4747 Apr 2016 #122

While that was a lovely read, Eko Apr 2016 #129

Yet she voted with Sanders > 93% of the time. randome Apr 2016 #89

Question the 7% where she didn't. Iraq War etc. B Calm Apr 2016 #94

She voted in favor of the Iraq War Resolution, she did not start an unnecessary war. randome Apr 2016 #96

She also voted for Post office names artislife Apr 2016 #104

Those votes were her most impressive! Herman4747 Apr 2016 #119

Even the names were uncreative. artislife Apr 2016 #123

I repeat: Chimps share 99% DNA with humans. There's a difference. snowy owl Apr 2016 #130

Doesn't matter how much factual info you post. They will shout it down as false. snowy owl Apr 2016 #131

Your post illustrates exactly what Hillary supporters do not understand about this primary. cui bono May 2016 #151

DU LWolf Apr 2016 #93

You nailed it. Some dems don't know they are now republicans. snowy owl Apr 2016 #132

Discouraging is nowhere near strong enough. vintx Apr 2016 #134

to independent? Can you vote in primaries as an independent? snowy owl Apr 2016 #137

Yes. LWolf Apr 2016 #139

K&R me b zola Apr 2016 #97

Most elected officials are New Democrats, not traditional Democrats and certainly not traditional merrily Apr 2016 #103

K N R-ed Faux pas Apr 2016 #108

Our tent has been too damn big Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #109

FYI, someone will most likely alert on this thread. You just insulted all Clinton supporters plus kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2016 #113

K&R Great post. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #115

There it is. Plain as fucking day. Excellent post. nt JEB Apr 2016 #116

Now stop it! This is upsetting some in the HRC group TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #118

Who cares? The only people who have ever even mentioned this have been Sanders himself... George II Apr 2016 #120

Don't you love all that dumb luck... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #133

Heads up... better beware of... jcgoldie Apr 2016 #136

How embarassing for you. Your Dear Leader couldn't even come up with one example of influence R B Garr May 2016 #146

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I guess you don't know much about the various civil rights struggles we've had in this country. cui bono May 2016 #153

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Why were you at Zucotti Park? (I was there too, btw) cui bono May 2016 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #159

I don't think it actually failed though. It changed the conversation. cui bono May 2016 #160

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You're maybe winning a battle only to lose the war. cui bono May 2016 #163

They will do anything, and I do mean anything, to prevent a compassionate democracy Zorra May 2016 #165

"Corporations" and other "business" including the "wealthy" have always supported Democrats. apnu May 2016 #170

Bill Clinton made a decision to go the DLC way and DLC was formed specifically to change cui bono May 2016 #172