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Skinner

(63,645 posts)
16. Let's be clear: The vast majority of progressives are going to vote for Hillary.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:07 AM
Apr 2016

So no, progressives won't be responsible if she loses.

What we are talking about here are not "progressives" genernally but rather a very tiny subset of people who for whatever reason choose not to vote for Hillary Clinton.

But here's what I don't get.

If you don't want her to win the general election, and you choose not to vote for her because you don't want her to win the general election, then wouldn't you in fact be getting the outcome you wanted? Why not own it?

Put another way -- if someone told me in 2012 that I was to blame for Mitt Romney's loss to Barack Obama, my response would be "You're damn right it was my fault -- I didn't vote for him!"

You're on a discussion forum where people discuss shit sufrommich Apr 2016 #1
Left alone ABOUT MY VOTE IN NOVEMBER vintx Apr 2016 #4
'I'm in Texas. My vote is EXTRA not needed." puffy socks Apr 2016 #49
Oh bullshit. It's all the voters. vintx Apr 2016 #51
Amazing, isn't it ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #81
So do unsupportable nominees. Chan790 Apr 2016 #97
Shes inevitable remember? Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #13
You know what else is inevitable? Chan790 Apr 2016 #98
Exactly. They cheer clinton on like she actually has done Katashi_itto May 2016 #102
Is Nader running again? redstateblues Apr 2016 #2
What does that even have to do with my post? vintx Apr 2016 #5
Reminiscent of the "not a dimes worth of difference" attitude redstateblues Apr 2016 #30
Another childish "I'm going to take my ball and go home" thread SFnomad Apr 2016 #3
I tell myself I'm going to start ignoring the sufrommich Apr 2016 #8
Where's the tantrum? vintx Apr 2016 #9
You aren't being "bullied", that's such a dishonest sufrommich Apr 2016 #11
No, y'all can't force any of us. vintx Apr 2016 #14
How many times do we have to say it? leftofcool Apr 2016 #25
It's the same old tactic of setting up the straw man redstateblues Apr 2016 #31
Another person assuming the OP is about them. vintx Apr 2016 #60
It's a discussion board, as another poster pointed out, so of course everyone has "a lot to say." Tanuki Apr 2016 #66
I'm glad to hear it. Chan790 Apr 2016 #99
Another arrogant "you must obey Corporatocracy" post Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #89
Well, it is not like a Hillary supporter can go into the booth with us, right? djean111 Apr 2016 #6
Good point. vintx Apr 2016 #10
when you stop going pressbox69 Apr 2016 #7
Newbie telling another DUer to "get gone"? djean111 Apr 2016 #15
You're right pressbox69 Apr 2016 #32
"Your right" comes to DU BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #37
There has always been a sudden influx of this kind of crap here vintx Apr 2016 #61
Speaking of a "sudden influx of this kind of crap...around election time", you've only been here Tanuki Apr 2016 #69
Yeah, there is. vintx Apr 2016 #82
DU is not about personal attacks. We have enough to argue about. djean111 Apr 2016 #38
Slight correction Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #62
Good catch pressbox69 Apr 2016 #68
No offense here. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #71
No, I think some of the dirtier players Rebkeh Apr 2016 #12
The BSS bullshit tactic is attempting to create equivalence between Hillary and Cruz redstateblues Apr 2016 #33
Wow Rebkeh Apr 2016 #46
That would be silly. Chan790 Apr 2016 #100
Let's be clear: The vast majority of progressives are going to vote for Hillary. Skinner Apr 2016 #16
I have never voted anything but straight ticket dem, vintx Apr 2016 #20
So what you're saying is that you want Hillary Clinton to win but you're not voting for her. Skinner Apr 2016 #27
I read the post as s/he wants Greens to get 5% of the votes to get on future ballots riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #42
That doesn't answer my question. Skinner Apr 2016 #44
Ah ok. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #45
Possibly, but we won't know that till November. vintx Apr 2016 #48
Because if you want Hillary Clinton to win and you don't vote for her... Skinner Apr 2016 #64
Again you assume a vote in Hawaii has the same effect as a vote in Ohio. That is not the case. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #78
What do you think the chances are of Hillary taking Texas? vintx Apr 2016 #84
Very low but not impossible this year. But I'm still curious: Skinner Apr 2016 #91
Clearly they would. Swing states are battleground states - that's where the fight is. vintx Apr 2016 #93
Thank you. Punkingal Apr 2016 #34
I'm glad Hillary doesn't need my vote Califonz Apr 2016 #17
So? leftofcool Apr 2016 #23
Another lo poster for Bernie. I doubt you were voting Democratic anyway redstateblues Apr 2016 #36
Here's what you do, stop talking about how you will or won't vote. Yout vote is your business, Autumn Apr 2016 #18
Like I said it was that one OP about tents and berries. vintx Apr 2016 #22
I don't know what post you are talking about Autumn Apr 2016 #35
Its this lovely piece of work riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #50
Oh for fucks sake.That's almost as bad as it's my duty to vote for Hillary Autumn Apr 2016 #55
So why the posts about mud huts flobee1 Apr 2016 #26
Honestly, it is sound and fury Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #19
You are assuming that I care about who you vote for. leftofcool Apr 2016 #21
No, you are assuming the OP is about you vintx Apr 2016 #24
No I am not. It was all about you and pity you. leftofcool Apr 2016 #28
You already feel guilty about it Renew Deal Apr 2016 #29
It's the 2016 version of "not a dimes worth of difference" redstateblues Apr 2016 #39
Because facts are ugly things Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #41
Nader Denialism Lives!! Spoken like a true Nader voter. redstateblues Apr 2016 #53
It's a myth that Nader cost Gore the election. That's been thoroughly debunked. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #67
Debunked? All that is Naderites continuing to deny that they played a part redstateblues Apr 2016 #77
You didn't bother to read the links I see riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #80
Except that I voted for Gore Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #73
They have to keep telling themselves that vintx Apr 2016 #83
Projection Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #40
Sure. As soon as you stop claiming you will pull a 2016 version of PUMAs. You cant have it both stevenleser Apr 2016 #43
. I don't care what your reasons are. flobee1 Apr 2016 #47
Yup, and I stand by it. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #52
I dont doubt tbat flobee1 Apr 2016 #54
Actually, I can. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #56
Nope, you can't and it has nothing to do with what state you live in. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #57
Nonsense. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #58
Dem party membership is dropping. Its now at 29% of the electorate riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #72
I know it. They put all of their resources into a seriously damaged candidate then blame everyone GoneFishin Apr 2016 #79
They know they will have a hard time and need to demand the Left toe the line. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #59
The Love it or Leave it, Loyalty Oath, wing of the party demands obedience and silence. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #63
I'm from the Democratic wing of the Democratic party vintx Apr 2016 #85
they lost 11 Governors, 13 Senators, 69 Reps, 913 state seats *by* blaming the voters MisterP Apr 2016 #65
Precisely. nt vintx Apr 2016 #86
and they always "telegraph" what they're gonna do whenever they blame the left-- MisterP Apr 2016 #90
I wish I had kept a list of all the times when the party sabotaged a progressive primary candidate vintx Apr 2016 #92
my list is MisterP Apr 2016 #94
Stop with the whining. procon Apr 2016 #70
She will NEver get the Independants Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #74
It's surreal ... 'There's hardly any of you! vintx Apr 2016 #87
and there's a better chance of legislating those progressive policies you want. flobee1 Apr 2016 #75
True Independents in Ohio and Florida will decide the election. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #76
Similarly, they'll carry no weight after a Clinton victory, if they don't participate...nt SidDithers Apr 2016 #88
Progressives would not be to blame Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #95
What Clinton loss? Democratic Divo Apr 2016 #96
Yeah! KPN Apr 2016 #101
If anyone loses to Trump, it will not be the fault of progressives but the 'credit' of racists and pampango May 2016 #103
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