2016 Postmortem

highprincipleswork

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53. Beyond the wordplay, I confess that my post wasn't the clearest. Perhaps it was the drugs kicking in

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:14 PM

Apr 2016

As the other person who responded to my post noted, it has really confused and bothered me that we have become so split in our Progressive values, as shown in this race. Hilary can be called a Progressive, because she is for a bunch of things socially that are at least moderately Progressive and compassionate. But Bernie, whose positions on these issues are at least as Progressive, but who makes a big deal out of Progressive economic issues and about keeping us out of war, gets a bad rep somehow in some quarters. His supporters are even compared to rightwingers.

It's the world turned on its head, as so much is in this post-Reagan world.

That is all I meant to bring up. The rest of the original post is all stuff I agree with, and so possibly I shouldn't have said anything at all.

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This is NOT an election about moving right, left, or to the middle. [View all] Skwmom Apr 2016 OP

Me me me Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #1

Yes, that is her mantra. Bernie is we, we we. n/t libdem4life Apr 2016 #13

Just admit your libertarian needs usurp those of others. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #14

Nonsense. .. over and out. n/t libdem4life Apr 2016 #16

You're making no sense Armstead Apr 2016 #24

You are a socialist? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #43

Hate to differ. The primary has totally been about social issues. Not economy. Not war. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #2

Yeah, those folks risking arrest protesting Trump, who cares about their SOCIAL issues Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #3

"Hate to differ."?!? chervilant Apr 2016 #28

Beyond the wordplay, I confess that my post wasn't the clearest. Perhaps it was the drugs kicking in highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #53

I actually agree with you. actslikeacarrot Apr 2016 #50

Oligarchy has been so overused that it's pretty meaningless too. Now ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #4

There's a lot of labels being thrown around haphazardly ... nt salinsky Apr 2016 #6

So you deny the immense power of big corporations and the ultra rich? AZ Progressive Apr 2016 #9

Nonsense. ljm2002 Apr 2016 #10

Meaningless? Not for a moment. We are making the decision this election libdem4life Apr 2016 #15

Maybe you ought to look at how our current system operates Armstead Apr 2016 #25

Not unimportant ... but ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #27

He probably won't be the nominee....But that does not mean he or his message are irrelevant Armstead Apr 2016 #29

Or indeed the huge numbers who wanted to vote for him, but were prevented by primary rules. Kentonio Apr 2016 #31

Actually, he WON'T be the nominee ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #32

I don't disagree that there were things that could have been done better Armstead Apr 2016 #36

Do you think by posting continuous insults one after another on GDP will help B Calm Apr 2016 #33

Recommended. It seems as if the oligarchs are winning. guillaumeb Apr 2016 #5

yup,perfect tools,for the tools,works every time. wendylaroux Apr 2016 #8

The whole government needs to be overhauled bigwillq Apr 2016 #7

Backbone and integrity would be a good start... Armstead Apr 2016 #30

The system isn't broken; the system is fixed. CrispyQ Apr 2016 #49

Democracy is presently underground Fairgo Apr 2016 #11

That is not correct Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #18

So, soft chains versus hard ones. Thanks Fairgo Apr 2016 #21

I believe Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #46

Sure. Can you win a primary first before you take a wrecking ball to the party? BootinUp Apr 2016 #12

Maybe "the party" ought to notice the dry rot that is eroding the foundation Armstead Apr 2016 #26

Wrong Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #17

Thanks for saving the revolution Fairgo Apr 2016 #22

If we elect a democrat Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #48

Didn't President Obama just nominate a Republican votesparks Apr 2016 #40

No he nominated someone Congress said they could vote for Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #52

Clinton is to the right of Obama. Prism Apr 2016 #19

She is not to the right of Obama Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #20

Voting for the Irq war was definitely to the right of Obama. n/t eridani Apr 2016 #23

Obama was not in the Senate at the time Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #44

Her entire time in the safe Senate seat she was parachuted into was a carefully orchestrated plan Kentonio Apr 2016 #34

First of all Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #45

You can't have a revolution that continues if it never actually starts. Kentonio Apr 2016 #54

Your amorphous soundbites will have the same effect as OWS: a brief flare and then darkness. randome Apr 2016 #35

No more oligarchy...(or words to that effect) are exactly what is needed Armstead Apr 2016 #37

The problem was acknowledged long ago. If you can't get past that, then you won't succeed. randome Apr 2016 #39

It has not been acknowledged. The Oligarchs are doing better than ever. Armstead Apr 2016 #41

Then WE need to come up with specific ideas and push for them. randome Apr 2016 #47

Thank you for deeming the use of the word moderate as meaningless. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #38

Jim High tower knows what it means. B Calm Apr 2016 #42

Tell it Rebkeh Apr 2016 #51