2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Heads Up: Beware of any "Democrat" still supporting a corporate candidate [View all]Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)if Clinton wins, and heaven forbid goes unchallenged on the Left in 2020 (which th corporate-owned Party machinery will attempt to ensure), we could be looking at EIGHT YEARS for the party to become further intertwined with Wall Street, predatory corporations, the military-industrial complex, for-profit health care & prisons, ad nauseum. We might see GOP congressional majorities swell (I think the Senate flips this year but could flip back in 2018), and Hillary, immersed in scandal (she's a Clinton...) and copying Bill's 1990s formula, triangulated the shit out of domestic and foreign policy - bad news for the poor, POC (off to jail with you "super-predators!), and civilians in countries that a "get tough" Hillary decides to bomb into bloody rubble. Democrats could literally win the election but forever lose progressives as well as working-class and poor Americans, as the Bernie candidacy is clearly showing Ameroca is waking up to the fact that the corporate wing of the Democrtaic party (DLC & economic conservatives) is really just a warmed-over GOP (minus the religious nuts).
If Trump wins, sure, it could be painful. But I think the math favors Democrats in the Senate (which could put the brakes on kooky appointments and budget slashing), and a hugely unpopular President Trump might turn the House in 2018. By 2020, we could be looking at a popular Democratoc Congress that expands its majority on the coattails of a PROGRESSIVE, people-centric Democratic nominee for POTUS. I'm not sure who that person might be, but there are dozens of progressives in federal and state offices who could guide America back toward the center-left and away from the destructive right-wing corporatist/militarist bullshit that has been destroying workers and slaughtering innocents since the election of Reagan.
I don't want to see either Trump or Hillary win, but I have to think long and hard which would actually be worse for the Democratic Party, America, and the world. I think you get different answers when you consider different time frames. There will be pain for our most vulnerable in either scenario. But I refute the assertion that it s clear, 100% cut and dried better for America if Hillary wins. Perhaps in the short term, I will grant that. But long term? For that to be the case, she would have to change her stripes, and operate in a fashion that would run counter to both past behavior as well as the wishes of those who've bankrolled her campaign and her rockstar lifestyle (via the CGI slush fund).