2016 Postmortem

My Good Babushka

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65. If your party want to normalize war crimes and torture

Sun May 1, 2016, 10:35 AM

May 2016

carried out by U.S. proxy armies, then it's not the party for me, or for many here. I don't condone it. Those Islamic militant gangs are not representative of the Libyan people.

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I simply don't get how a person who said "we came, we saw, he died" can be considered a good choice [View all] redgreenandblue May 2016 OP

Most Admired Woman in World, Record 20th Time Gallup, December 2015. stonecutter357 May 2016 #1

And I really have no idea why. Maybe because she's a "survivor", something like that? reformist2 May 2016 #24

It might be because 20 years ago, Bill helped set up the WTO which basically Baobab May 2016 #127

Is that like a Miss Universe pageant for seniors? TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #35

Sounds better than the math ... GeorgeGist May 2016 #67

Welcome to the patriarchy. n/t JTFrog May 2016 #74

Looks like most admired in the English speaking world egalitegirl May 2016 #113

Sarah Palin? nolawarlock May 2016 #154

Yet her net unfavorables are sky high. Funny dat. yodermon May 2016 #85

Friend/relative, Other and None/no opinion arikara May 2016 #97

Hitler is "Greatest" in 1939 Princeton University Poll Karmadillo May 2016 #125

Not admiration......scorn MsFlorida May 2016 #2

I simply don't get how a person can look at Clinton vs. Trump and think Trump is a better choice. baldguy May 2016 #3

Ah, yes it's the usual McCainPalinRomneyRyan bogeyman argument. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #12

That's one vote for Trump. Good luck with that. baldguy May 2016 #16

If ya say so. Watch out! R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #30

And which one of those rock May 2016 #37

I really don't dine on corporate droppings of either party. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #53

Too bad rock May 2016 #57

well unless you are not in the us DonCoquixote May 2016 #73

Oh, so you admit that they are "droppings", but somehow R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #78

there is a differfence between droppings DonCoquixote May 2016 #118

Lolololo... when one keeps on justifying that R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #130

yes DonCoquixote May 2016 #133

IWR got a lot of Iraqi civilians... kids killed R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #136

indeed, and DonCoquixote May 2016 #139

And the Iraqis are still dead. Brought about, in part, R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #155

Shit is shit. Evil is evil. 840high May 2016 #99

Please pass the Gray Poupon. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #122

If the third way were to ask you to jump R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #131

It's a two-party system. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #145

Firstly the third way is AKA compromised Dems R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #149

Aren't you a bit ahead of yourself? We are not faced with Clinton vs. Trump at this time pdsimdars May 2016 #36

Keep telling yourself that. It'll help you get through COLGATE4 May 2016 #47

You can wait for the nomination to be delivered to Sanders by a mermaid on the back of a unicorn. baldguy May 2016 #48

baldguy, that`s quite a reply. democrank May 2016 #62

Tell it to Sanders then, too. He knows he's lost. baldguy May 2016 #64

buh bye . . . . . . pdsimdars May 2016 #110

Yes she may win -- but that is not the only concern for almost half the people who have voted... Armstead May 2016 #162

I'm with you all the way... and with Bernie. It's not over til its over! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #77

Theyre both *HORRIBLE* choices jack_krass May 2016 #40

Likewise, voting against the Brady Bill does not present a good choice for president with Thinkingabout May 2016 #4

Pretty weak...1400 people die from heart disease every day... Human101948 May 2016 #23

I wonder how many die in Libya and Syria each year ChairmanAgnostic May 2016 #31

Hillary skates on everything... it's what she does. Gotta give her credit for that... getting a pass. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #80

Another item in Hillary's agenda. kinda heartless on people dying? Thinkingabout May 2016 #56

Sanders didn't help enact laws that stand in the way of lowering heart disease deaths... uponit7771 May 2016 #146

Wrong again, my friend... Human101948 May 2016 #147

What was it about Gaddafi 72DejaVu May 2016 #5

Oooh...a pearl of wisdom from the penetrating minds that brought us "Saddam lover". TheKentuckian May 2016 #9

He looked better in pants and funny jacket. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #22

Can't forget the fez! byyiminy May 2016 #49

What we didn't like was arikara May 2016 #101

Sounds like something Trump would say nt G_j May 2016 #109

She isn't a good choice. For people. The 1%, the MIC, Wall Street - Hillary will be very very good djean111 May 2016 #6

Look at all the Rethuglians eager to vote for Hillary over tRump. You don't hear 'em clamoring for Bernie... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #81

The Third Way to-do list is a GOP dream. n/t djean111 May 2016 #83

You got that right... a "wet dream" at that! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #91

I don't know a soul madokie May 2016 #95

Don't count Bernie out just yet... anything can happen. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #140

The worshippers are enthralled by that kind of stuff. Broward May 2016 #7

If a particular phrase - with literary implications treestar May 2016 #8

A certain essay comes to mind. randome May 2016 #13

Calling Obama Barack America is an endearing misspeak, cackling about "we came, we saw, he died" is TheKentuckian May 2016 #20

She was trying to sound as tough as a man. randome May 2016 #26

Anyone showing such a reaction ("We can we saw..") with such apparent joy would sound alarm bells CentralMass May 2016 #68

Looking at the person and not the camera moments, she does not seem like a heartless person to me. randome May 2016 #105

I think the "camera moments" tend to reveal who she really is Fumesucker May 2016 #142

I am a woman of her generation... ljm2002 May 2016 #70

I get that. I just don't think the camera moment points to the person behind it. randome May 2016 #108

Well, we differ on that point... ljm2002 May 2016 #111

Women politicians do not have the option okasha May 2016 #141

Sure, sure... ljm2002 May 2016 #148

Whatever it is Hillary's trying to prove, it's not working. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #82

Vini, Vidi, Vici treestar May 2016 #153

Not Satan ChairmanAgnostic May 2016 #33

Well, okay, then. Just so long as Obama retains first place as The Anti-Christ. randome May 2016 #41

Yeah really treestar May 2016 #150

Why would you think that? Do you go around spouting shit like that? TheKentuckian May 2016 #15

Clinton is of an older generation of women who needed to prove they were as tough as men. randome May 2016 #21

A misspeak is when I take down 09475 but read back 09745 or when Biden called Obama Barack America. TheKentuckian May 2016 #116

You'd have passed out had you lived in Roman times treestar May 2016 #152

I remember when Bush would giggle when talking about Saddam's fate, and all of DU hated him for it. arcane1 May 2016 #156

So...you are reaching into the "Saddam lover" logic bin, huh? TheKentuckian May 2016 #158

I tend to believe that people mean what they say. But let's assume you are right... redgreenandblue May 2016 #159

^^^^^^^^^^^ Amen! ^^^^^^^^^^^ pdsimdars May 2016 #39

Well said! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #93

^^^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^^ mooseprime May 2016 #126

It's in the classics treestar May 2016 #151

Hackneyed etymology doesn't excuse the thinking behind what was expressed. TheKentuckian May 2016 #157

Perhaps the Reagan Democrats have been repackaged R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #10

New and improved package, Art_from_Ark May 2016 #160

How about: "Gaddafi is a thug and murderer. We want to see him go." oberliner May 2016 #11

That's our country today? ChairmanAgnostic May 2016 #34

"...We want to see him go, but I think in the midst of two wars, LadyHawkAZ May 2016 #44

"I hope that our military action in Libya will be ending very, very shortly." oberliner May 2016 #50

So how's Libya doing these days? n/t LadyHawkAZ May 2016 #51

How's South Africa doing these days? n/t oberliner May 2016 #54

No response? LadyHawkAZ May 2016 #117

Let me clarify what I meant oberliner May 2016 #120

Justice belonged to the Libyan people My Good Babushka May 2016 #58

I, for one, am glad that filthy POS is gone. DinahMoeHum May 2016 #63

And the consequences be damned... ljm2002 May 2016 #71

And you're not going to hear a peep from HRC... she'll never bite the hand that feeds her. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #90

You forgot the giggling . bahrbearian May 2016 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch May 2016 #17

I'm glad the terroristic, murdering dictator is dead. Didn't have much love loss for Hitler either. boston bean May 2016 #18

Is it worth it that the whole country of Libya is in shambles, now? Or do we not care? reformist2 May 2016 #27

Wow! You really gobbled up the propaganda... Human101948 May 2016 #29

I would be ashamed to make such an ignorant post My Good Babushka May 2016 #59

justice was carried out by the libyan people. boston bean May 2016 #60

If your party want to normalize war crimes and torture My Good Babushka May 2016 #65

... CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #115

Very telling... ljm2002 May 2016 #72

And??? he was a real peach. I don't give a shit what happened to him boston bean May 2016 #76

You are reacting much like conservatives tend to react... ljm2002 May 2016 #86

get over yourself. boston bean May 2016 #87

Back atcha... ljm2002 May 2016 #89

No, I'm discussing Gadaffi. Cause it's that is what is being discussed here. Also would like to boston bean May 2016 #92

so you are not in favor of due process AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #96

He got his due process from the people he dictated over. boston bean May 2016 #98

Nobody is asking for your friggen sympathy. We are asking that the US follow international law. Live and Learn May 2016 #102

Ummmm... what is your complaint about? boston bean May 2016 #112

It wouldn't matter what evidence we had. It is clear Hillary has been vaccinated and has immunity. Live and Learn May 2016 #114

Replaced by two governments fighting each other and an ISIS outpost eridani May 2016 #143

Marriage is a SACRED bond between a man and a woman Doctor_J May 2016 #19

"Kissinger is a friend, and I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state." Broward May 2016 #25

She has a lifelong history of making very, very right-wing statements. reformist2 May 2016 #28

When did Bernie embrace Marriage equality? nt fun n serious May 2016 #144

You can fool some of the people all of the time Kittycat May 2016 #32

Simply unbecoming behavior for a world leader... jack_krass May 2016 #38

For the same reason Harry Truman was happy with Hitler's and Mussolini's fate. wyldwolf May 2016 #42

That is the only thing she's ever said. So, based on that, I agree. Buzz Clik May 2016 #43

No, you'd be a useful idiot. BootinUp May 2016 #88

That is adorable. Buzz Clik May 2016 #94

I had an "omg" moment when some guy said that there are Marines all over the world pdsimdars May 2016 #45

While I'm not big on the verbiage. NCTraveler May 2016 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #52

Your choice for President My Good Babushka May 2016 #55

^this^ /nt Sweet Freedom May 2016 #69

To this day this makes 840high May 2016 #100

Holy CRAP! I shouldn't be surprised FlatBaroque May 2016 #61

... VulgarPoet May 2016 #161

Horrifying... kgnu_fan May 2016 #66

She was showing off her "Foreign Policy Experience" and skillful diplomacy. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #75

It's like Bush's cowboy walk and TX accent loyalsister May 2016 #79

Same old same old HassleCat May 2016 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF May 2016 #103

I don't get how a person who trusted Bush at his leisure to invade Iraq is a good choice. EndElectoral May 2016 #104

Word!!! Nt mooseprime May 2016 #106

Because she likes killing and war. northernsouthern May 2016 #107

Since the "he" in question was Khadaffi, I have no problem with that, Tarc May 2016 #119

It's clear you haven't yet been brought to heel. bvf May 2016 #121

"We killed a ruthless dictator and terrorist" sounds so much better. oasis May 2016 #123

And created a vaccume for daesh R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #137

I was addressing the OP's outrage of Hillary not being oasis May 2016 #138

Her baser instincts slip out sometimes, and it's always shocking to see. senz May 2016 #124

It's a positive feature for people who live vicariously through the American military's Maedhros May 2016 #128

I don't get it either. If Hillary had any respect for our party she wouldn't put us snappyturtle May 2016 #129

"Bring them to heel" KPN May 2016 #132

Yes -- the same violent gang leaders Bernie called "sociopathic" in voting FOR the crime bill. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #135

Then you don't remember enough about the "he"; or that it was a UN mission. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #134

She's not a good choice. LWolf May 2016 #163