2016 Postmortem

TheFarseer

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116. Get the rules changed?

Sun May 1, 2016, 12:02 PM

May 2016

How the hell should I go about that? I'm sure if I start writing letters and run for city council, I would be able to overturn an entrenched system put in place by billionaire oligarchs and the most powerful politicians in the most powerful country in the world. When I'm done with that, I'll stop carrier from moving to Mexico by purchasing a majority of the shares in United Technologies.

I love the meme that Bernie knew the rules when he started the campaign. I guess he f#&$ed up then. He should have run for the other democratic nomination with the fair rules that make sense. Jfc. How people defend this rigged system just astounds me.

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Rigged System: Why The F*CK Are LOBBYISTS SuperDelegates? [View all] Segami Apr 2016 OP

Lobbyists love Hillary! Segami Apr 2016 #1

Lobbyists are very strongly represented among superdelegates Baobab Apr 2016 #21

Meet the Clinton Machine's... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #58

I actually read that list of Democratic superdelegates a month or so and could not believe lobbyists Samantha May 2016 #68

It's not going to matter anyways ... Secretary Clinton will have the clear pledged delegate lead n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #2

Well two things... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #6

They also ranking members of the DNC ... that's how they got their Superdelegate status SFnomad Apr 2016 #9

Really? northernsouthern Apr 2016 #11

They got there because they were voted into positions. If you don't like it, get the rules changed. SFnomad Apr 2016 #15

Wow just doubling down. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #20

She needs them ... SHE HAS THEM ... they're not going to change. SFnomad Apr 2016 #24

Tripling down. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #30

You need to cut back on your diet of sour grapes ... they're not good for you n/t SFnomad May 2016 #32

So dodging the lie again? NT northernsouthern May 2016 #37

No lies, no dodging ... just reality, something I've seen the BS cheerleaders have problems with n/t SFnomad May 2016 #48

You do know hat a lie is? northernsouthern May 2016 #49

And you wonder why Clinton supporters don't have any respect for you people n/t SFnomad May 2016 #51

Whats with the 'YOU PEOPLE' smear? Segami May 2016 #53

I have read your posts that were hidden, you are the last person on earth... northernsouthern May 2016 #54

Wow, you really don't get it do you? It's not about Hillary winning, it's about the corruption cui bono May 2016 #81

They got there because of $$$$$$ bahrbearian May 2016 #103

Maybe, maybe not ... you're just slinging accusatinos without proof, but that's typical n/t SFnomad May 2016 #115

Get the rules changed? TheFarseer May 2016 #116

City council doesn't have much to do with the DNC. If you don't like the DNC's rules, get involved SFnomad May 2016 #117

You act like it's so easy. TheFarseer May 2016 #123

Ah, I see ... the type of person that needs something to complain about, but really doesn't want to SFnomad May 2016 #124

Thanks for not answering my question. TheFarseer May 2016 #126

Because their team is winning. Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #132

Bullshit. Standing up for cleaner democracy is NOT crying about it lostnfound May 2016 #135

Sure...that could be true...oh. We are talking about this DNC. artislife Apr 2016 #22

Still a major conflict of interest. Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #131

It also matters because they were used to create a barrier to entry for weaker candidates Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #10

I think there must have been a law broken. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #18

the DNC and RNC are private orgs and can create primary rules as they please La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #40

Do you know what electioneering is? northernsouthern May 2016 #43

i was referring to your laws broken comment La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #45

Again do you knwo what electioneering is? NT northernsouthern May 2016 #50

yes and nothing illegal is happening. nt La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #55

So then... northernsouthern May 2016 #59

point to which laws you think were broken? La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #60

Well we know Hillary could give a shit about doing what is Fair, or Lawful. bahrbearian May 2016 #105

Agrees with that. northernsouthern May 2016 #121

Laundering and electionerring... northernsouthern May 2016 #119

Lol. This is by far the most ridic post on du. La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #122

Maybe no laws broken, CrispyQ May 2016 #114

This is exactly my point. northernsouthern May 2016 #118

They have a special elevator where they can ride with the legislators Baobab Apr 2016 #23

Wow. HRC supporters will excuse anything. Kelvin Mace May 2016 #52

Like the candidate -- no ethical boundaries, anything goes. senz May 2016 #73

Yep. But will they admit that Hillary is in the lead because of all the money those corps gave her?? reformist2 May 2016 #91

And these people know they OWN HRC... Yurovsky May 2016 #111

Good find. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #3

Why would a party that is suppose to be for the people havace lobbyists that are superdelegates? Skwmom Apr 2016 #4

Why does a party that name Democratic have any superdelegates at all? merrily May 2016 #101

Jesus H Christ! tosh Apr 2016 #5

This is an absolute embarrassment. nt IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #7

If it isn't already, I hope this goes viral. n/t xloadiex Apr 2016 #8

That's how the IRON TRIANGLE works - Lobbyist > Legislator > Bureaucrat (no public input)! TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #12

It's crass corruption. The worst kind. JDPriestly May 2016 #62

When can it be called taxation w/o representation? nt senz May 2016 #74

There is massive public input. Every person who chooses to become an owner. raouldukelives May 2016 #140

Corporations are people too!!! reformist2 Apr 2016 #13

Romney and the DNC agree on certain fundamentals senz May 2016 #75

Outstanding dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #14

Lobbyist title is secondary... fun n serious Apr 2016 #16

Really? You are gonna go with that? LOL, you are not very good at what you do. /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #19

That poster is funnily serious...really. artislife Apr 2016 #25

Agreed, one reason I would never consider placing it on ignore, I need the occasional giggle /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #31

Not all lobbyists are unethical fun n serious Apr 2016 #26

Why does any one of them have a vote that counts more than mine???!!! JudyM May 2016 #33

????????????? LiberalFighter May 2016 #44

No it isn't. We don't get to vote for bills. morningfog May 2016 #56

How do automatic delegates get to vote twice? LiberalFighter May 2016 #66

We are not talking about "automatic delegates." We are discussing super delegates. morningfog May 2016 #139

So... northernsouthern May 2016 #39

Bull pucky. That is false and you know it. senz May 2016 #77

We support Bernie because he doesn't hang with that crowd! Dustlawyer May 2016 #35

To understand where your post went seriously wrong... me b zola May 2016 #96

Seriously, I thought this was already common knowledge or I would have posted something about it Dragonfli Apr 2016 #17

Emily Giske also lobby's for labor unions. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2016 #27

And Bernie superdelegate Larry Cohen was named one of the top lobbyists of 2013 onenote May 2016 #36

Because Corporations are people too, silly! Duh. That's why they vote. silvershadow Apr 2016 #28

Actual voters have been cut out of this "Democratic" primary... dchill Apr 2016 #29

This was the most embarrassing primary in eons. I used to write about it extensively, but silvershadow May 2016 #41

I won't switch to GE mode... dchill May 2016 #61

Is the complaint that they are lobbyists or that they are lobbyists for particular organizations? onenote May 2016 #34

My complaint is that super delegates exist. morningfog May 2016 #57

That's our unmasked Democratic Party for ya! Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #38

Because you are not a member of the Democratic Party that can vote on it. LiberalFighter May 2016 #42

OK....but thanks anyway Segami May 2016 #47

Well, if true, that's disturbing n/t musicblind May 2016 #46

Lobbyists are a small minority of the automatic delegates. LiberalFighter May 2016 #63

And if she wins by 5 delegates, these 5 lobbyists Karma13612 May 2016 #88

You really think she will win by 5 delegates only? LiberalFighter May 2016 #108

Most "elected" politicians are basically employees of Corporations glinda May 2016 #64

I guess you need to STOP buying all that stuff corporations sell underthematrix May 2016 #69

Never heard anyone but Republicans say that. senz May 2016 #78

U R so funny. I don't buy hardly a thing and tend to support small farmers, etc.... glinda May 2016 #136

Your comment reminds me of a documentary I watched on corrupt NYC cops BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #100

Right. Yet we should B so lucky they would work part time for us. glinda May 2016 #138

K & R AzDar May 2016 #65

The Democratic party is lost....it's moved away from the people davidn3600 May 2016 #67

Same as it ever was shanti May 2016 #70

Because the election process has devolved aspirant May 2016 #71

It's a closed system felix_numinous May 2016 #72

system is NOT rigged. rules are clear and SOME Candidates just not capable enuff to figure them out msongs May 2016 #76

Unbelievable that so many Democrats see nothing wrong with this. democrank May 2016 #79

The most common defense seems to be "it's only a little bit of corruption"! reformist2 May 2016 #86

Run along now, nothing to see here...though I am sure there will be an apologist silvershadow May 2016 #80

Get rid of superdelegates! CobaltBlue May 2016 #82

The system is rigged madokie May 2016 #83

You must hate women. Scuba May 2016 #84

Lobbyist's companies are people, too. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #85

Wow, that looks downright awful.. When the information is so cherry picked. Amimnoch May 2016 #87

I'm confident no superdelegates for Bernie will Karma13612 May 2016 #89

Well, since you doubt. Amimnoch May 2016 #94

Thanks for this! Eom Karma13612 May 2016 #95

Nobody should get a superdelegate vote because they are great people, or used to be great people. reformist2 May 2016 #93

So carefully cherry-picked. randome May 2016 #104

Thanks Segami, great eye opener here!! +100 eom Karma13612 May 2016 #90

Super Delegates ensuring that we have the best government corporations can buy. K&R B Calm May 2016 #92

This is why your hyperbolic missives will never amount to much. randome May 2016 #97

Guess we don't have to worry about drug prices going down. Vinca May 2016 #98

Add in former members of Congress who are now lobbyists BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #99

The foxes have turned the hen house into condos. Fuddnik May 2016 #102

Managed Democracy at it's finest. Fuddnik May 2016 #106

Yet the Hillarians "can't understand" why many of us could never support their corrupt candidate. 99Forever May 2016 #107

That's a good question. Uncle Joe May 2016 #109

"Ladies and Gentlemen, our Corporate Anthem" Babel_17 May 2016 #110

How else can the Oligarchy assure they get to stay in control? Ferd Berfel May 2016 #112

This is why it's so important to support Bernie! B Calm May 2016 #113

Preservation of the status-quo. Many pols are literally "Banking" on it. nt NorthCarolina May 2016 #120

Can we sue under the one man one vote law? Lobbying is not voting, ViseGrip May 2016 #125

The Party really needs to do away with this travesty. Even Repubs don't have superdelegates. EndElectoral May 2016 #127

Better try better next time. tonyt53 May 2016 #128

Not all lobbyists are bad -- environmental lobbyists, civil rights, women's, cancer society, etc. Hoyt May 2016 #129

Why are lobbyists superdelegates? Gee, I don't know... because the DNC is corrupt? bjo59 May 2016 #130

Oh, wait. Aren't these the superdelegates that the Sanders camp wants to shift Tarc May 2016 #133

Of course trying to bring logic into this will be ignored. JTFrog May 2016 #134

LOL How is calling themselves the "Democratic" party not false advertising? Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #137