2016 Postmortem

TheFarseer

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123. You act like it's so easy.

Sun May 1, 2016, 12:48 PM

May 2016

I'm sure if I volunteered for a campaign the system would come crashing down. It's not like I'm in a strong position to win a congressional seat. Tell me what I should do as a middle class accountant to change the democratic primary rules.

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Rigged System: Why The F*CK Are LOBBYISTS SuperDelegates? [View all] Segami Apr 2016 OP

Lobbyists love Hillary! Segami Apr 2016 #1

Lobbyists are very strongly represented among superdelegates Baobab Apr 2016 #21

Meet the Clinton Machine's... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #58

I actually read that list of Democratic superdelegates a month or so and could not believe lobbyists Samantha May 2016 #68

It's not going to matter anyways ... Secretary Clinton will have the clear pledged delegate lead n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #2

Well two things... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #6

They also ranking members of the DNC ... that's how they got their Superdelegate status SFnomad Apr 2016 #9

Really? northernsouthern Apr 2016 #11

They got there because they were voted into positions. If you don't like it, get the rules changed. SFnomad Apr 2016 #15

Wow just doubling down. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #20

She needs them ... SHE HAS THEM ... they're not going to change. SFnomad Apr 2016 #24

Tripling down. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #30

You need to cut back on your diet of sour grapes ... they're not good for you n/t SFnomad May 2016 #32

So dodging the lie again? NT northernsouthern May 2016 #37

No lies, no dodging ... just reality, something I've seen the BS cheerleaders have problems with n/t SFnomad May 2016 #48

You do know hat a lie is? northernsouthern May 2016 #49

And you wonder why Clinton supporters don't have any respect for you people n/t SFnomad May 2016 #51

Whats with the 'YOU PEOPLE' smear? Segami May 2016 #53

I have read your posts that were hidden, you are the last person on earth... northernsouthern May 2016 #54

Wow, you really don't get it do you? It's not about Hillary winning, it's about the corruption cui bono May 2016 #81

They got there because of $$$$$$ bahrbearian May 2016 #103

Maybe, maybe not ... you're just slinging accusatinos without proof, but that's typical n/t SFnomad May 2016 #115

Get the rules changed? TheFarseer May 2016 #116

City council doesn't have much to do with the DNC. If you don't like the DNC's rules, get involved SFnomad May 2016 #117

You act like it's so easy. TheFarseer May 2016 #123

Ah, I see ... the type of person that needs something to complain about, but really doesn't want to SFnomad May 2016 #124

Thanks for not answering my question. TheFarseer May 2016 #126

Because their team is winning. Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #132

Bullshit. Standing up for cleaner democracy is NOT crying about it lostnfound May 2016 #135

Sure...that could be true...oh. We are talking about this DNC. artislife Apr 2016 #22

Still a major conflict of interest. Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #131

It also matters because they were used to create a barrier to entry for weaker candidates Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #10

I think there must have been a law broken. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #18

the DNC and RNC are private orgs and can create primary rules as they please La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #40

Do you know what electioneering is? northernsouthern May 2016 #43

i was referring to your laws broken comment La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #45

Again do you knwo what electioneering is? NT northernsouthern May 2016 #50

yes and nothing illegal is happening. nt La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #55

So then... northernsouthern May 2016 #59

point to which laws you think were broken? La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #60

Well we know Hillary could give a shit about doing what is Fair, or Lawful. bahrbearian May 2016 #105

Agrees with that. northernsouthern May 2016 #121

Laundering and electionerring... northernsouthern May 2016 #119

Lol. This is by far the most ridic post on du. La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #122

Maybe no laws broken, CrispyQ May 2016 #114

This is exactly my point. northernsouthern May 2016 #118

They have a special elevator where they can ride with the legislators Baobab Apr 2016 #23

Wow. HRC supporters will excuse anything. Kelvin Mace May 2016 #52

Like the candidate -- no ethical boundaries, anything goes. senz May 2016 #73

Yep. But will they admit that Hillary is in the lead because of all the money those corps gave her?? reformist2 May 2016 #91

And these people know they OWN HRC... Yurovsky May 2016 #111

Good find. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #3

Why would a party that is suppose to be for the people havace lobbyists that are superdelegates? Skwmom Apr 2016 #4

Why does a party that name Democratic have any superdelegates at all? merrily May 2016 #101

Jesus H Christ! tosh Apr 2016 #5

This is an absolute embarrassment. nt IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #7

If it isn't already, I hope this goes viral. n/t xloadiex Apr 2016 #8

That's how the IRON TRIANGLE works - Lobbyist > Legislator > Bureaucrat (no public input)! TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #12

It's crass corruption. The worst kind. JDPriestly May 2016 #62

When can it be called taxation w/o representation? nt senz May 2016 #74

There is massive public input. Every person who chooses to become an owner. raouldukelives May 2016 #140

Corporations are people too!!! reformist2 Apr 2016 #13

Romney and the DNC agree on certain fundamentals senz May 2016 #75

Outstanding dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #14

Lobbyist title is secondary... fun n serious Apr 2016 #16

Really? You are gonna go with that? LOL, you are not very good at what you do. /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #19

That poster is funnily serious...really. artislife Apr 2016 #25

Agreed, one reason I would never consider placing it on ignore, I need the occasional giggle /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #31

Not all lobbyists are unethical fun n serious Apr 2016 #26

Why does any one of them have a vote that counts more than mine???!!! JudyM May 2016 #33

????????????? LiberalFighter May 2016 #44

No it isn't. We don't get to vote for bills. morningfog May 2016 #56

How do automatic delegates get to vote twice? LiberalFighter May 2016 #66

We are not talking about "automatic delegates." We are discussing super delegates. morningfog May 2016 #139

So... northernsouthern May 2016 #39

Bull pucky. That is false and you know it. senz May 2016 #77

We support Bernie because he doesn't hang with that crowd! Dustlawyer May 2016 #35

To understand where your post went seriously wrong... me b zola May 2016 #96

Seriously, I thought this was already common knowledge or I would have posted something about it Dragonfli Apr 2016 #17

Emily Giske also lobby's for labor unions. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2016 #27

And Bernie superdelegate Larry Cohen was named one of the top lobbyists of 2013 onenote May 2016 #36

Because Corporations are people too, silly! Duh. That's why they vote. silvershadow Apr 2016 #28

Actual voters have been cut out of this "Democratic" primary... dchill Apr 2016 #29

This was the most embarrassing primary in eons. I used to write about it extensively, but silvershadow May 2016 #41

I won't switch to GE mode... dchill May 2016 #61

Is the complaint that they are lobbyists or that they are lobbyists for particular organizations? onenote May 2016 #34

My complaint is that super delegates exist. morningfog May 2016 #57

That's our unmasked Democratic Party for ya! Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #38

Because you are not a member of the Democratic Party that can vote on it. LiberalFighter May 2016 #42

OK....but thanks anyway Segami May 2016 #47

Well, if true, that's disturbing n/t musicblind May 2016 #46

Lobbyists are a small minority of the automatic delegates. LiberalFighter May 2016 #63

And if she wins by 5 delegates, these 5 lobbyists Karma13612 May 2016 #88

You really think she will win by 5 delegates only? LiberalFighter May 2016 #108

Most "elected" politicians are basically employees of Corporations glinda May 2016 #64

I guess you need to STOP buying all that stuff corporations sell underthematrix May 2016 #69

Never heard anyone but Republicans say that. senz May 2016 #78

U R so funny. I don't buy hardly a thing and tend to support small farmers, etc.... glinda May 2016 #136

Your comment reminds me of a documentary I watched on corrupt NYC cops BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #100

Right. Yet we should B so lucky they would work part time for us. glinda May 2016 #138

K & R AzDar May 2016 #65

The Democratic party is lost....it's moved away from the people davidn3600 May 2016 #67

Same as it ever was shanti May 2016 #70

Because the election process has devolved aspirant May 2016 #71

It's a closed system felix_numinous May 2016 #72

system is NOT rigged. rules are clear and SOME Candidates just not capable enuff to figure them out msongs May 2016 #76

Unbelievable that so many Democrats see nothing wrong with this. democrank May 2016 #79

The most common defense seems to be "it's only a little bit of corruption"! reformist2 May 2016 #86

Run along now, nothing to see here...though I am sure there will be an apologist silvershadow May 2016 #80

Get rid of superdelegates! CobaltBlue May 2016 #82

The system is rigged madokie May 2016 #83

You must hate women. Scuba May 2016 #84

Lobbyist's companies are people, too. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #85

Wow, that looks downright awful.. When the information is so cherry picked. Amimnoch May 2016 #87

I'm confident no superdelegates for Bernie will Karma13612 May 2016 #89

Well, since you doubt. Amimnoch May 2016 #94

Thanks for this! Eom Karma13612 May 2016 #95

Nobody should get a superdelegate vote because they are great people, or used to be great people. reformist2 May 2016 #93

So carefully cherry-picked. randome May 2016 #104

Thanks Segami, great eye opener here!! +100 eom Karma13612 May 2016 #90

Super Delegates ensuring that we have the best government corporations can buy. K&R B Calm May 2016 #92

This is why your hyperbolic missives will never amount to much. randome May 2016 #97

Guess we don't have to worry about drug prices going down. Vinca May 2016 #98

Add in former members of Congress who are now lobbyists BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #99

The foxes have turned the hen house into condos. Fuddnik May 2016 #102

Managed Democracy at it's finest. Fuddnik May 2016 #106

Yet the Hillarians "can't understand" why many of us could never support their corrupt candidate. 99Forever May 2016 #107

That's a good question. Uncle Joe May 2016 #109

"Ladies and Gentlemen, our Corporate Anthem" Babel_17 May 2016 #110

How else can the Oligarchy assure they get to stay in control? Ferd Berfel May 2016 #112

This is why it's so important to support Bernie! B Calm May 2016 #113

Preservation of the status-quo. Many pols are literally "Banking" on it. nt NorthCarolina May 2016 #120

Can we sue under the one man one vote law? Lobbying is not voting, ViseGrip May 2016 #125

The Party really needs to do away with this travesty. Even Repubs don't have superdelegates. EndElectoral May 2016 #127

Better try better next time. tonyt53 May 2016 #128

Not all lobbyists are bad -- environmental lobbyists, civil rights, women's, cancer society, etc. Hoyt May 2016 #129

Why are lobbyists superdelegates? Gee, I don't know... because the DNC is corrupt? bjo59 May 2016 #130

Oh, wait. Aren't these the superdelegates that the Sanders camp wants to shift Tarc May 2016 #133

Of course trying to bring logic into this will be ignored. JTFrog May 2016 #134

LOL How is calling themselves the "Democratic" party not false advertising? Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #137