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In reply to the discussion: Seems to me that most of you don't get it [View all]cui bono
(19,926 posts)98. Marian Wright Edelman of the Children's Defense Fund doesn't think too highly of Hillary.
How Hillary Clinton Betrayed the Children's Defense Fund for Political Gain
As we have noted in a previous editor's blog (along with the page numbers), Hillary brags in her memoirs that she was the one who lured the infamous Dick Morris back as an adviser to Bill (and Hillary) during the White House years in the mid-90s, as Bill Clinton was trying to find a way to counter the Newt Gingrich assault and the never-ending Republican attempts to investigate and impeach him.
As a result of Morris's "triangulating" advice, the Clintons embraced some cold-hearted measures, including what became called euphemistically "welfare reform." In fact, the progressive and children's advocate community considered it a Draconian measure that would punish poor children if their moms didn't find work. The Clintons, both of them, supported it, and Bill Clinton signed it into law.
Among those who ardently and eloquently opposed the Clinton "welfare reform" bill was Marian Wright Edelman. Her husband, Peter Edelman, quit his high-level job at the Department of Health and Human Services in protest when Bill Clinton signed the bill. He was deeply upset about what the legislation would do to helpless children.
In a July 2007 interview with Amy Goodman, Marian Wright Edelman had this to say about the "welfare reform bill" and Hillary Clinton:
AMY GOODMAN: Marian Wright Edelman, we just heard Hillary Rodham Clinton. She used to be the head of the board of the Childrens Defense Fund, of the organization that you founded. But you were extremely critical of the Clintons. I mean, when President Clinton signed off on the, well, so-called welfare reform bill, you said, His signature on this pernicious bill makes a mockery of his pledge not to hurt children. So what are your hopes right now for these Democrats? And what are your thoughts about Hillary Rodham Clinton?
MARIAN WRIGHT EDELMAN: Well, you know, Hillary Clinton is an old friend, but they are not friends in politics. We have to build a constituency, and you dontand we profoundly disagreed with the forms of the welfare reform bill, and we said so. We were for welfare reform, I am for welfare reform, but we need good jobs, we need adequate work incentives, we need minimum wage to be decent wage and livable wage, we need health care, we need transportation, we need to invest preventively in all of our children to prevent them ever having to be on welfare.
And yet, you know, many years after that, when many people are pronouncing welfare reform a great success, you know, weve got growing child poverty, we have more children in poverty and in extreme poverty over the last six years than we had earlier in the year. When an economy is down, and the real test of welfare reform is what happens to the poor when the economy is not booming. Well, the poor are suffering, the gap between rich and poor widening. We have what I consider one ofa growing national catastrophe of what we call the cradle-to-prison pipeline. A black boy today has a one-in-three chance of going to prison in his lifetime, a black girl a one-in-seventeen chance. A Latino boy whos born in 2001 has a one-in-six chance of going to prison. We are seeing more and more children go into our child welfare systems, go dropping out of school, going into juvenile justice detention facilities. Many children are sitting up15,000, according to a recent congressional GAO studyare sitting up in juvenile institutions solely because their parents could not get mental health and health care in their community. This is an abomination.
That is a staggering indictment, from the woman Hillary Clinton regularly mentions as her mentor, of a gap between Hillary Clinton's words and her record. It reflects upon a political decision that she and Bill made to leave many children behind in order to ensure a second term. (The "Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act," as it was cynically called, was signed in August of 1996, just about three months before the '96 presidential election.)
http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/how-hillary-clinton-betrayed-the-childrens-defense-fund-for-political-gain
As we have noted in a previous editor's blog (along with the page numbers), Hillary brags in her memoirs that she was the one who lured the infamous Dick Morris back as an adviser to Bill (and Hillary) during the White House years in the mid-90s, as Bill Clinton was trying to find a way to counter the Newt Gingrich assault and the never-ending Republican attempts to investigate and impeach him.
As a result of Morris's "triangulating" advice, the Clintons embraced some cold-hearted measures, including what became called euphemistically "welfare reform." In fact, the progressive and children's advocate community considered it a Draconian measure that would punish poor children if their moms didn't find work. The Clintons, both of them, supported it, and Bill Clinton signed it into law.
Among those who ardently and eloquently opposed the Clinton "welfare reform" bill was Marian Wright Edelman. Her husband, Peter Edelman, quit his high-level job at the Department of Health and Human Services in protest when Bill Clinton signed the bill. He was deeply upset about what the legislation would do to helpless children.
In a July 2007 interview with Amy Goodman, Marian Wright Edelman had this to say about the "welfare reform bill" and Hillary Clinton:
AMY GOODMAN: Marian Wright Edelman, we just heard Hillary Rodham Clinton. She used to be the head of the board of the Childrens Defense Fund, of the organization that you founded. But you were extremely critical of the Clintons. I mean, when President Clinton signed off on the, well, so-called welfare reform bill, you said, His signature on this pernicious bill makes a mockery of his pledge not to hurt children. So what are your hopes right now for these Democrats? And what are your thoughts about Hillary Rodham Clinton?
MARIAN WRIGHT EDELMAN: Well, you know, Hillary Clinton is an old friend, but they are not friends in politics. We have to build a constituency, and you dontand we profoundly disagreed with the forms of the welfare reform bill, and we said so. We were for welfare reform, I am for welfare reform, but we need good jobs, we need adequate work incentives, we need minimum wage to be decent wage and livable wage, we need health care, we need transportation, we need to invest preventively in all of our children to prevent them ever having to be on welfare.
And yet, you know, many years after that, when many people are pronouncing welfare reform a great success, you know, weve got growing child poverty, we have more children in poverty and in extreme poverty over the last six years than we had earlier in the year. When an economy is down, and the real test of welfare reform is what happens to the poor when the economy is not booming. Well, the poor are suffering, the gap between rich and poor widening. We have what I consider one ofa growing national catastrophe of what we call the cradle-to-prison pipeline. A black boy today has a one-in-three chance of going to prison in his lifetime, a black girl a one-in-seventeen chance. A Latino boy whos born in 2001 has a one-in-six chance of going to prison. We are seeing more and more children go into our child welfare systems, go dropping out of school, going into juvenile justice detention facilities. Many children are sitting up15,000, according to a recent congressional GAO studyare sitting up in juvenile institutions solely because their parents could not get mental health and health care in their community. This is an abomination.
That is a staggering indictment, from the woman Hillary Clinton regularly mentions as her mentor, of a gap between Hillary Clinton's words and her record. It reflects upon a political decision that she and Bill made to leave many children behind in order to ensure a second term. (The "Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act," as it was cynically called, was signed in August of 1996, just about three months before the '96 presidential election.)
http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/how-hillary-clinton-betrayed-the-childrens-defense-fund-for-political-gain
Hillary Clinton often boasts about helping children, but she betrayed them as First Lady
During the debate, Clinton touted her years at the Children's Defense Fund. Here's the truth she didn't talk about
Later in the debate amid her hawkish rhetoric Clinton twice more mentioned her work with CDF, wielding it as an example of her purportedly progressive policies.
The problem with Clintons claims, however, is that she betrayed children as First Lady. Under the guise of welfare reform, the Clinton administration worked with Republicans to gut social services, ignoring their own senior officials warnings that, by doing so, they would be plunging over a million children into poverty.
Bill Clinton ran in 1992 on the campaign promise to end welfare as we know it. In 1996, he with the wholehearted support of Hillary succeeded, passing the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act (PRWORA). PRWORA was based on legislation first proposed by Republican Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. The act was opposed by the left-wing of the Democratic Party, but the Clinton administration joined hands with Republicans and conservative Democrats to push it through.
As part of PRWORA, the Clinton administration axed the Aid to Families with Dependent Children federal assistance program, which had been created 61 years before by the Social Security Act, in the New Deal. They replaced it with the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program, which was drastically weaker and as the name stresses temporary.
Hillary, as First Lady, advocated strongly for the restructuring of welfare. Her former co-workers at CDF, on the other hand, were infuriated. CDF founder and President Marian Wright Edelman declared that President Clintons signature on this pernicious bill makes a mockery of his pledge not to hurt children.
Hillary Clinton is an old friend, but they are not friends in politics, the CDF president told Democracy Now in a 2007 interview. At the time, CDF profoundly disagreed with the forms of the welfare reform bill, and we said so, Marian Wright Edelman explained.
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/15/the_worst_thing_hillary_clinton_has_ever_done/
During the debate, Clinton touted her years at the Children's Defense Fund. Here's the truth she didn't talk about
Later in the debate amid her hawkish rhetoric Clinton twice more mentioned her work with CDF, wielding it as an example of her purportedly progressive policies.
The problem with Clintons claims, however, is that she betrayed children as First Lady. Under the guise of welfare reform, the Clinton administration worked with Republicans to gut social services, ignoring their own senior officials warnings that, by doing so, they would be plunging over a million children into poverty.
Bill Clinton ran in 1992 on the campaign promise to end welfare as we know it. In 1996, he with the wholehearted support of Hillary succeeded, passing the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act (PRWORA). PRWORA was based on legislation first proposed by Republican Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. The act was opposed by the left-wing of the Democratic Party, but the Clinton administration joined hands with Republicans and conservative Democrats to push it through.
As part of PRWORA, the Clinton administration axed the Aid to Families with Dependent Children federal assistance program, which had been created 61 years before by the Social Security Act, in the New Deal. They replaced it with the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program, which was drastically weaker and as the name stresses temporary.
Hillary, as First Lady, advocated strongly for the restructuring of welfare. Her former co-workers at CDF, on the other hand, were infuriated. CDF founder and President Marian Wright Edelman declared that President Clintons signature on this pernicious bill makes a mockery of his pledge not to hurt children.
Hillary Clinton is an old friend, but they are not friends in politics, the CDF president told Democracy Now in a 2007 interview. At the time, CDF profoundly disagreed with the forms of the welfare reform bill, and we said so, Marian Wright Edelman explained.
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/15/the_worst_thing_hillary_clinton_has_ever_done/
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This is why y'all are losing. Absolute certainty to the exclusion of all other possibilities ...
NurseJackie
May 2016
#2
Alternatively 35 years of rightwing-billionaire-funded ideological think tanks
lostnfound
May 2016
#102
NurseJackie you are one of the loud ones...going to check my blood pressure now.
bkkyosemite
May 2016
#109
Marian Wright Edelman of the Children's Defense Fund doesn't think too highly of Hillary.
cui bono
May 2016
#98
LOL. And you have 136 posts? Don't tell me, you've been lurking for years just waiting
rhett o rick
May 2016
#30
You're losing, and losing badly, and part of the reason you're losing is
alcibiades_mystery
May 2016
#8
I think it's at least understandable though, since no expense is too high to denigrate Clinton.
randome
May 2016
#35
You said 3 million votes directly for the oligarchy. So do you think working poor and middle class
Maru Kitteh
May 2016
#137
Now there you go again giving us hope. Everyones says we are domed.
Land of Enchantment
May 2016
#10
To all Hillarians: "Camp Weathervane" refers to the Hillary campaign, not the Hillary DU group.
Kip Humphrey
May 2016
#29
That might be easier to believe if instead of typing Hillarians you typed Clinton supporters
mythology
May 2016
#50
Well, young people and not-so-young that want change better organize to reform how we vote.
stillwaiting
May 2016
#154
Besides those voting for her because of her gender, Clinton voters are extremely conservative
Doctor_J
May 2016
#49
Thanks for the post! Glad to see we are still together after the The Great Brock
silvershadow
May 2016
#69
So take our country back to "where we care for each other or ... be crushed in the future."
betsuni
May 2016
#80
The Democratic party will have to change, largely due to "the people" having it up to here...
MrMickeysMom
May 2016
#117
Sanders "we'll see" disagrees with this notion that its about a progressive congress
uponit7771
May 2016
#119
Yes, I will take opportunities to remind everyone the kind of poster you really are.
Sheepshank
May 2016
#145