2016 Postmortem

gollygee

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45. I don't really like the idea of "superdelegates"

Mon May 2, 2016, 10:28 AM

May 2016

But I don't think it's right to argue about it during an election. It becomes more about whether their existence helps or hurts your candidate and less about the election process.

But overall, I'm a huge believer in the democratic process. People vote and the will of the people decides elections. I'd love for everything to be decided by popular vote, and I'd like all primaries to be on the same day. I'd also like that day, and every Election Day, to be a national holiday so people can vote more easily. What I'd like for elections isn't really relevant to what we're dealing with right now though. We have a process, and you can't change it in the middle (or toward the end) of things.

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Do you support the existence of unelected "superdelegates" having a say in who our candidate is? [View all] Nye Bevan May 2016 OP

I also don't support corporate media controlling the national narrative. PowerToThePeople May 2016 #1

That's the corker. That's when you know that democracy is largely a sham. bjo59 May 2016 #4

Profoundly disagree. How can any of you watch what Hortensis May 2016 #39

That's all that's left after Bill signed the reforms. nt silvershadow May 2016 #12

Agreed. GreenPartyVoter May 2016 #29

manipulation and control win over democracy oldandhappy May 2016 #2

Yeah, especially corporate lobbyist superdelegates. That just says it all. bjo59 May 2016 #5

I truly object to the idea that "insiders" should trump the expressed... grasswire May 2016 #3

Hear, hear. nt silvershadow May 2016 #13

So you oppose Bernie's present strategy? nt hack89 May 2016 #27

Chicken or egg? Unelected superdelegates or Bernie's strategy? cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #53

The Rethugs are wishing they had them because they could have stopped Trump. pnwmom May 2016 #6

Depends Urchin May 2016 #7

Yep. okasha May 2016 #8

I'm a Clinton victim. nt silvershadow May 2016 #14

Now I get it. Agschmid May 2016 #22

You should. I have written extensively about the damage the Third Way has silvershadow May 2016 #25

Me too! What a disaster! leftofcool May 2016 #30

How would today's version of super delegates stop McGovern? morningfog May 2016 #57

another key question is voting on the platform planks cloudythescribbler May 2016 #9

California held Special Delegate caucus Election meet ups today. 2banon May 2016 #17

Actually, a little over 1/3 of these Superdelegates ARE elected SFnomad May 2016 #10

I can find no election where they have gone against the will of the Democratic Party. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #11

I think that happened in 1968, Chicago. 2banon May 2016 #18

Super Delegates were not created until 1982, so they had nothing to do with 1968. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #19

Interesting article, thank you. 2banon May 2016 #46

I will counter that there were no Super Delegates in 1968. To put them there is to create a false Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #47

Yes, you're correct. I concede the point, I misspoke. 2banon May 2016 #49

False. Agschmid May 2016 #23

With em or without em Hillary won. Whats the diff? BootinUp May 2016 #15

bernie is ok with them...long as they vote for him. vote for hillary = bad of course nt msongs May 2016 #16

He surely is ok with super delegates being one himself. For sure. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #56

well, technically most of them ARE elected TheDormouse May 2016 #20

if it prevents a 1972 trainwreck, you betcha beachbum bob May 2016 #21

But ... but ... McRALLIES! NurseJackie May 2016 #35

We the people or We the superdelegates? Hmmm, think B Calm May 2016 #24

The people have already spoken. They want Hillary leftofcool May 2016 #31

They haven't all spoken. B Calm May 2016 #33

Its just more corrupt rigging of the system by Moneyed Interests. /nt RiverLover May 2016 #26

Definitely do not like the idea that they must "save us", presumably from ourselves! flor-de-jasmim May 2016 #28

No, in fact it is really making consider if I want to be part of the "our" at all. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #32

Yes...as long as they don't do anything stupid, I don't see the problem with them qdouble May 2016 #34

It doesn't bother me, considering the alternative: brooklynite May 2016 #36

Superdelegates picked Mondale and Dukakis. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #43

No. bigwillq May 2016 #37

No. Vinca May 2016 #38

This is part of the Democratic party rules Gothmog May 2016 #40

Superdelegates defeat the purpose of Democracy. Octafish May 2016 #41

The two parties are controlled by private entities not responsible to the people. Rex May 2016 #61

I support these arguments during a non-election cycle when petulant bias is not the stuffing between LanternWaste May 2016 #42

I support following the rules and not changing them mid-stream. If you don't like the rules, Justice May 2016 #44

I don't really like the idea of "superdelegates" gollygee May 2016 #45

Sort of mythology May 2016 #48

Nope. Had a problem with it in 2008 too... Chan790 May 2016 #50

Nope. I also have a problem with the notion that superdelegates are a new phenomenon UMTerp01 May 2016 #51

I think the Republicans would be thrilled to have Superdelegates that could stop Trump Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #52

There is an easy way to get rid of superdelegates. stone space May 2016 #54

We have been doing it for decades and I heard not a peep. seabeyond May 2016 #55

I'd prefer they are not "figured in" until after the primary ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #58

Have they ever thrown the election to someone who didn't win the pledged delegate battle? Garrett78 May 2016 #59

Well people bought into corporations controlling both parties and not the public system. Rex May 2016 #60

No, they got installed to control the people's sadoldgirl May 2016 #62

As far as I know, they've never overturned the will of the voters. Garrett78 May 2016 #63

Look at the chaos going on in the GOP. baldguy May 2016 #64

No - unless they hand the nomination to my trailing candidate. In that case they are wise pampango May 2016 #65