2016 Postmortem

Tarc

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23. They "flipped" because he was the clear winner of the pledged delegate count

Reply to imagine2015 (Reply #18)

Mon May 2, 2016, 12:45 PM

May 2016

Can't say the same for the Bernster.

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No matter what Sanders says, there can’t be a contested Democratic National Convention. [View all] wyldwolf May 2016 OP

Because it is clear that Sanders can not feasibly take the lead. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #1

Good post. Buzz Clik May 2016 #2

Sanders is a Democrat and will remain one after the convention. morningfog May 2016 #5

When he goes back to the Senate wlll he change his COLGATE4 May 2016 #26

That is my understanding. His campaign said he would stay with the Democratic Party moving forward. morningfog May 2016 #27

I guess time will tell. COLGATE4 May 2016 #32

Will he? Will you lay money on it? I didn't think so! n/t KelleyD May 2016 #76

His campaign said it. It seems to be part of the back room negotiations. morningfog May 2016 #86

$ rock May 2016 #62

They don't seem to know what contested convetion means griffi94 May 2016 #3

What you just described is in fact a contested convention. Orsino May 2016 #55

There would only be a "contested convention" if no candidate won a majority of *pledged* delegates. Garrett78 May 2016 #60

That's still not right. Orsino May 2016 #88

It's semantics. It will be one vote, so it will not be brokered. It will be contested in that morningfog May 2016 #4

^This^semantics^ Hiraeth May 2016 #9

Fine. OilemFirchen May 2016 #12

All primaries are contested unless there is only one candidate. That does not mean the CONVENTION is morningfog May 2016 #13

Huh? OilemFirchen May 2016 #19

Primary has several meanings. morningfog May 2016 #21

The way you're defining it all conventions are contested griffi94 May 2016 #28

No I'm not. WHy is this so hard for people to understand? morningfog May 2016 #37

No, it's not just "semantics". Clinton will have the majority and the formality of the vote KittyWampus May 2016 #42

The vote is not a formality. She will NOT a have a majority of the delegates morningfog May 2016 #44

There is no way he can overtake her...even if he comes within 1 delegate. She will win. no SG needed KelleyD May 2016 #77

Yet there the supers are. Ready to exert their undemocratic might when they choose. morningfog May 2016 #87

Sanders handlers want to keep pay checks rolling in...sanders ego won't let him beachbumbob May 2016 #6

He has seen his donations nose dive. He is desperate to keep money coming in the door. NCTraveler May 2016 #7

He needs to pay for that "Roman Holiday" you know! KelleyD May 2016 #78

No, I don't think there is anything extravagant about the guy. NCTraveler May 2016 #80

I hear you NC...I have said they should get rid if Devine and Weaver! KelleyD May 2016 #83

Martin O'Malley and state candidates. Kip Humphrey May 2016 #8

Under the logic being used here, a candidate who has clinched the nomination The Second Stone May 2016 #10

No, you are mistaken. morningfog May 2016 #14

Well, one of us is mistaken. I've actually been a delegate The Second Stone May 2016 #16

And since that has NEVER been the standard it's bullsh*t to start it now. KittyWampus May 2016 #43

It has ALWAYS been the standard, lol. morningfog May 2016 #45

I tried pointing out that Sanders supporters don't understand the primary or convention process IamMab May 2016 #25

Well, we are all about majority voting, even The Second Stone May 2016 #33

You probably got a hide for being insulting and rude, not for simply being wrong. morningfog May 2016 #38

Perhaps this simple illustration will help the math-impaired. OilemFirchen May 2016 #11

And that would still leave her 300 or so shy of securing the nomination, 2,383. morningfog May 2016 #15

This is about a "contested" convention. OilemFirchen May 2016 #20

If she reaches 2,383 through pledged delegates, it could not be contested. morningfog May 2016 #22

That has NEVER been the standard and it's only tortured logic to start that now. KittyWampus May 2016 #46

Bullshit. THat has always been the standard. morningfog May 2016 #48

2026 is the number needed without supers Dem2 May 2016 #54

You all keep skipping steps. morningfog May 2016 #61

Yes, the convention uses both pledged and supers Dem2 May 2016 #64

No, we have 15% of our delegates in the undemocratic super weighted super delegates. morningfog May 2016 #65

And the beauty of the Democratic Primary system LiberalFighter May 2016 #17

Over 150 superdelegates have not endorsed Hillary in 2016 and over 200 flipped to Obama in 2008. imagine2015 May 2016 #18

They "flipped" because he was the clear winner of the pledged delegate count Tarc May 2016 #23

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That is what is so "socialist" about "revolution" is that it is The Second Stone May 2016 #35

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THIS is the part that (in my opinion) the Sanders supporters won't acknowledge. hamsterjill May 2016 #56

#BernieSoMath IamMab May 2016 #24

If no one has a majority of the pledged delegates the convention is contested basselope May 2016 #29

It's guaranteed that 1 of the 2 (Clinton) will win a majority of the pledged delegates. Garrett78 May 2016 #34

A majority of pledged delegates will not secure the nomination. morningfog May 2016 #39

I was responding to the "if no one has a majority of the pledged delegates" remark. Garrett78 May 2016 #47

Oh, I see. I did not see the post above yours. Yes, one will get a majority in pledged delegates, morningfog May 2016 #52

Majority doesn't = WIN basselope May 2016 #50

Well, it kind of does. Garrett78 May 2016 #53

No, you need to get to 2383 basselope May 2016 #69

Wrong. Garrett78 May 2016 #72

There was only 1 candidate left at the time of the convention basselope May 2016 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #58

No, sorry. basselope May 2016 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #71

Except for the fact that you're wrong basselope May 2016 #79

NO, it's not. That is ridiculous. The vote is a FORMALITY. In no logical sense is it contested. KittyWampus May 2016 #49

Formality or not, it is STILL a contested convention. basselope May 2016 #51

No, it isn't. Garrett78 May 2016 #59

Yes, it is. basselope May 2016 #68

Bernie is a hypocrite. First he was against the Superdelegates..now he is counting on them! KelleyD May 2016 #82

I just donated yesterday. PeteSelman May 2016 #31

You could have bought a homeless person a meal. nt Jitter65 May 2016 #36

Is that the new HIllary butt hurt for winning line? morningfog May 2016 #40

I also could have bought a dime bag of heroin. PeteSelman May 2016 #41

I bought a homeless person a meal today! The Second Stone May 2016 #67

One little points rock May 2016 #63

Not other candidates received a super delegate. O'Malley has one super delegate supporting him now. morningfog May 2016 #66

He does? rock May 2016 #73

Sad we're not discussing the candidate that easily wins over Trump. libdem4life May 2016 #74

Thanks for your support! Who are you "Dem for life "really! KelleyD May 2016 #84

Please. I'm a Liberal. libdem4life May 2016 #89

don't waste your time DLCWIdem May 2016 #75

All they have are their insults and voter fraud fantasies! KelleyD May 2016 #85