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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
35. Frankly this super delegate debacle just gets more and more interesting.
Tue May 3, 2016, 06:06 AM
May 2016

I am of the opinion that they should go away, but since they're here, the melange of contradictory theories as to how they should work has been quite fascinating. I'm hearing they should go with the popular vote of their state, until that applies to Grijalva and others whose states went with Bernie. Then I hear they should go proportionately with the states, but doesn't that just make them more pledged delegates? Surely that was not the intention behind them. And, lately, I hear some of them are getting threatened with having their tongues cut out.

Super delegates are anti-democratic. They should go away. Everyone arguing over what is the correct magical, mystical formula as to how they should work is simply putting a bandaid on the fact that they shouldn't be part of the process at all. But so long as they are part of the process, those who are given the role of super delegate are given those roles not to support the will of the voter but what is best for the party.

In this sea of arguments for open primaries and independents voting, one more proof of what super delegates actually are is the fact that there are, as far as I can see, no super delegates who are not Democrats. They wouldn't be, because they have nothing to do with the will of the voter.

Argue as you will that super delegates are un-democratic. I would agree with you, but then why try to justify all these attempts to fit a square peg in a round hole?

Oh, and can one get timed out for calling Howard Dean a sellout? I've heard whispers.

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BS suffers from delusions of grandeur. . grossproffit May 2016 #1
Pathetic post. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #5
What's pathetic is carrying on like he's won. There will be no contested convention. grossproffit May 2016 #7
Rules are rules. And calling Bernie delusional for playing by them is pathetic. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #11
Remember when the rules were unfair and corrupt and SD's were wrong? BreakfastClub May 2016 #58
His only delusion... like most of us RobertEarl May 2016 #9
Right. And it's more than not playing fair. It's anti-democratic. bjo59 May 2016 #27
Right. elleng May 2016 #28
Yep--the Clinton Machine fix is in. A shame, because Bernie's our best candidate for November... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #31
👆 this. deathrind May 2016 #55
pathetic projection. Betty Karlson May 2016 #25
Whatever. bjo59 May 2016 #26
Talk about flipping the script! nt silvershadow May 2016 #2
Lol, I know. northernsouthern May 2016 #3
Couldn't agree more and I said as much here passiveporcupine May 2016 #4
oddly enough it was the bernster who was bad mouthing supers a few months back lol nt msongs May 2016 #6
He is evolving. nt silvershadow May 2016 #29
He doesn't have the Math in any way shape or form fun n serious May 2016 #8
Yeah, if any switch, it's far more likely they'll be switching *to* her. Garrett78 May 2016 #13
Source? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #10
Source? All over DU RobertEarl May 2016 #15
My mother died 4 years ago Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #20
Mine did too! RobertEarl May 2016 #24
It's been my moniker since 2003 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #47
Let's go there RobertEarl May 2016 #48
Where did anyone say ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #12
Bernie's strategy is fantastical. BootinUp May 2016 #14
We'll boot them out if they don't RobertEarl May 2016 #16
no rules apply amborin May 2016 #17
Here's how his supporters are helping get super delegates to switch ... nolawarlock May 2016 #18
All clAss Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #21
Here's another nolawarlock May 2016 #22
Random FB posters/trolls? Really? That's HIS campaign? silvershadow May 2016 #30
Hey, it seems as though Bernie supporters think every Hillary supporter is a paid Brock troll... nolawarlock May 2016 #32
Not sure the point...but I will say that Howard Dean was a sell-out. silvershadow May 2016 #33
Frankly this super delegate debacle just gets more and more interesting. nolawarlock May 2016 #35
As Rumsfeld once famously said, you don't always go with the army you want, silvershadow May 2016 #36
There's nothing wrong with using rules to his advantage whether he agrees with them or not ... nolawarlock May 2016 #37
Until we get there, this is really just hand-wringing...and way too early. We have months to silvershadow May 2016 #40
Another thing that perplexes me ... nolawarlock May 2016 #44
Jury results pintobean May 2016 #43
Judging from Sanders history as a negotiator... NCTraveler May 2016 #41
It's a shame... nolawarlock May 2016 #46
Ummmmm......BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Zynx May 2016 #19
Ah feel your pain, zynx RobertEarl May 2016 #23
the only one asking for new rules is Bernie. Lil Missy May 2016 #34
Constantly new, constantly changing, constantly evolving ... nolawarlock May 2016 #38
There is no truth to your claim RobertEarl May 2016 #56
And what new rule would that be? nt NWCorona May 2016 #59
crickets RobertEarl May 2016 #63
You are right about that! NWCorona May 2016 #64
Four individual users, Twenty-five searches, eleven states, information downloaded. NCTraveler May 2016 #39
Hillary will win easily according to the rules. Nobody wants to change them. YouDig May 2016 #42
Do you at least recognize the hypocrsy? Adrahil May 2016 #45
I do recognize the hypocrisy RobertEarl May 2016 #61
Because it's her turn!! dana_b May 2016 #49
And what was one of her excuses for mishandling of Classified data on her private server????? pdsimdars May 2016 #50
Oh this is great Shills knows she can lose the Supers if they become worried enough about the GE Kalidurga May 2016 #51
Yes she does know RobertEarl May 2016 #67
His failure is not in the rules, but in the math. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #52
Bernie's the one demanding new rules for how SDs vote. CrowCityDem May 2016 #53
DWS and the DNC are playing Calvinball, apparently. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #54
That's some serious nonsense. JoePhilly May 2016 #57
Change the rules to suit your candidate, blame the other candidate. Dem2 May 2016 #60
Sanders is a liar and a hypocrite then workinclasszero May 2016 #62
Except no one said there are 'rules' regarding who superdelegates vote for. randome May 2016 #65
Bwahahaha anigbrowl May 2016 #66
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