2016 Postmortem

bbrady42

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72. I'm tired of being called a "shill"

Tue May 3, 2016, 11:03 AM

May 2016

Yes, I've been a member for a long time, and yes I don't post a lot.

But I'm fed up with being told I'm a shill who supports Clinton at the expense of the presidency. I support her *because* I think she's the better candidate for the GE. Stop insulting me and telling me I'm not a real Democrat (upper or lower case "d&quot , that I'm a war-monger and a corporatist. We disagree about which candidate is stronger, that's it.

What do you think will happen if Bernie is made the Democratic nominee? When the full force of the Koch/RNC/Fox fueled negative echo chamber is finally turned on Bernie his poll numbers will drop in a big hurry. You'll look back fondly on the "media blackout" days.

So can we drop the implications that I'm just some kind of bought-off or besotted idiot?

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Do they call baseball games in the 7th inning because one team is ahead? [View all] Armstead May 2016 OP

Yes they do Chico Man May 2016 #1

Sure if it is called on account of rain Armstead May 2016 #12

Happens all the time in the Bottom of the 9th and we are getting close to that bottomofthehill May 2016 #106

No, we're no where near that. n/t TDale313 May 2016 #126

When the mercy rule is in effect. JaneyVee May 2016 #2

Link ... NurseJackie May 2016 #7

"insurmountable" sounds about right. JaneyVee May 2016 #20

Or weather or bottom of the 9th scscholar May 2016 #110

Yeah, that's a terrible analogy. Adrahil May 2016 #3

Just because it's a longshot doen't mean one team should be expected to walk away before over Armstead May 2016 #25

Like I said, good luck! Adrahil May 2016 #37

Post of the day...will piss off some folks, understandably, but you have a sense of humor i must say Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #103

Yay for Kenny Lofton panader0 May 2016 #73

In Little League they certainly do. nt justiceischeap May 2016 #4

Little league has only 6 innings nt NWCorona May 2016 #22

Not when I played. nt justiceischeap May 2016 #23

Definitely a possibility but my son plays and it's only 6 as of now. nt NWCorona May 2016 #29

I played like 30 some years ago and we played 9 full innings justiceischeap May 2016 #32

I played as well but can't remember how many innings it was NWCorona May 2016 #38

They did when I was a kid too gollygee May 2016 #24

Yeah, the mercy rule. justiceischeap May 2016 #27

I voted for Bernie gollygee May 2016 #31

I agree. There's no need for all this contention between supporters, IMO. justiceischeap May 2016 #34

The primary is NOT little league! Silver_Witch May 2016 #36

I have to disagree with you. justiceischeap May 2016 #52

In plenty of sports, starters get pulled out when the game is no longer in question. CrowCityDem May 2016 #5

That's not calling the game Armstead May 2016 #19

In racquetball you stop at 7-0. Eom Blanks May 2016 #46

You realise states don't actually cancel primaries even sufrommich May 2016 #6

Yes...That is why the calls to end it before they have a chance to express themselves stinks Armstead May 2016 #17

No, it's just the 7th inning stretch... goin for anotha beer. Anyone else want one? InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #8

Do keep your crying under control when he formally loses the nomination. Zynx May 2016 #10

Depending on the rules, yeah. Also, when the other team is ahead by 7 runs, everyone starts talking Zynx May 2016 #9

Talk about the next game all you want... Armstead May 2016 #14

It kind of is. Also, the losing team often pulls back to avoid injuries. Zynx May 2016 #18

No, but the fans start heading for the parking lot Codeine May 2016 #11

So please just shuffle out and stop trying to shame those who believe the game should be completed Armstead May 2016 #15

The game will be completed no matter what. Codeine May 2016 #21

She can win gracefully or win nasty Armstead May 2016 #28

Bernie can lose gracefully or lose nasty. It is clear he is choosing the latter. nt hack89 May 2016 #30

She's been handling him with kid gloves for months. Codeine May 2016 #35

Ditto for him regarding kid gloves Armstead May 2016 #96

Agreed. He's been mostly reasonable. nt Codeine May 2016 #104

Yeah, but DU is like five chairs in the nosebleed section when compared to the whole stadium snooper2 May 2016 #93

The demands for Bernie to give up demonstrate abject panic. lagomorph777 May 2016 #13

Panic, I tell you. Snort.... Lol. seabeyond May 2016 #42

Ah, yes the standard content-free "LOL" post lagomorph777 May 2016 #107

Right, because defining and assigning panic to Clinton supporters is so substantial. seabeyond May 2016 #122

I'm tired of being called a "shill" bbrady42 May 2016 #72

can we drop the implications that I'm just some kind of bought-off or besotted idiot? Kalidurga May 2016 #79

were we supposed to force Iraq into socialism or something? promoting any rebuilding is bettyellen May 2016 #105

We were supposed to stop thinking it's our job to FORCE other countries to do our bidding. lagomorph777 May 2016 #108

except when it came to Assad- then it is okay...... oops. bettyellen May 2016 #109

Who said that? That's another mess we have only made worse. lagomorph777 May 2016 #111

Bernie said Assad "has got to go". But not his problem what happens- right? bettyellen May 2016 #112

OK that makes 2 things I disagree with him on. lagomorph777 May 2016 #113

I agree- it was a difficult situation. No easy answers. I feel like in the long run... bettyellen May 2016 #114

Right - we stop funding them, and we stop obsessing on the sandbox. lagomorph777 May 2016 #116

I don't think we'd ever have had interest if not for oil, and I hope we can return to those days... bettyellen May 2016 #117

Yup - nice level places to put up wind or solar farms lagomorph777 May 2016 #118

So don't shill demwing May 2016 #115

Oh noes. You've painted me into a corner and now I don't know how to answer! bbrady42 May 2016 #120

Dupe then? demwing May 2016 #124

Fine, tell yourself that I'm the dupe. bbrady42 May 2016 #125

Good idea demwing May 2016 #127

she's 10-15 points behind him against the Pubs and Sanders isn't being spared by the Fox MisterP May 2016 #121

So if I believed this was a baseball game I would be thinking like Bernie? nt BootinUp May 2016 #16

If the team is ahead by three million runs, then yes. randome May 2016 #26

Ha ha. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #41

No, but by the 7th/8th inning, some fans start going home... brooklynite May 2016 #33

Some leagues have a Mercy Rule RandySF May 2016 #39

12-9 is not eligible for any mercy rule Armstead May 2016 #44

They do not have a limited number of points left... This does not work. seabeyond May 2016 #40

There are many baseball games where I can comfortably go to sleep in the seventh fully knowing... NCTraveler May 2016 #43

Enjoy your nap but don't insult the supporters of the team or the players Armstead May 2016 #45

I will insult FSU fans at every turn. NCTraveler May 2016 #48

It may have been a bad analogy because.... Armstead May 2016 #49

I agree with you here but I do think it has always been that way. NCTraveler May 2016 #60

sure - the 10-run rule - which applies here DrDan May 2016 #47

12-9 Armstead May 2016 #51

1,645 - 1,318 DrDan May 2016 #59

This is more of a chess game than a baseball game. YouDig May 2016 #50

But is the player allowed to decide when the situation is hopeless? Armstead May 2016 #57

Of course. But if a player does that, then people commentating are going to point YouDig May 2016 #63

Here's where it goes beyond the game analogy Armstead May 2016 #64

I agree, game analogies don't capture the whole picture. YouDig May 2016 #65

I think Bernie is trying to do that Armstead May 2016 #66

I hope so. YouDig May 2016 #70

At this point you're just shouting at the first official Codeine May 2016 #53

They call a boxing match when one fighter gets knocked the fuck out. LexVegas May 2016 #54

No...but it you're a Reds fan, you probably wish they would ! CincyDem May 2016 #55

Perhaps you have never heard of the ten run rule.... apcalc May 2016 #56

I'm not a big baseball fan, and should have used a better analogy, BUT.... Armstead May 2016 #58

Basketball would have been the better analogy. There are only 30 seconds left and your team is FSogol May 2016 #62

No one is calling anything and it is not a baseball game. yellowcanine May 2016 #61

Sometimes sports analogies can be "pretty good", no? Nye Bevan May 2016 #69

lol woolldog May 2016 #85

Yes. Every single game... Orsino May 2016 #67

They don't play the bottom of the 9th exboyfil May 2016 #68

My Wildcats were down once to LSU by 31 with 11:31 left. Won. TheKentuckian May 2016 #71

This isn't a baseball game. George II May 2016 #74

Yeah, the sports analogy doesn't fly. Garrett78 May 2016 #76

Let's look at the states won by Clinton vs. those won by Sanders: George II May 2016 #80

The Clinton-Red State meme takes reality and flips it on its head. Garrett78 May 2016 #82

No, but we all leave early to avoid the traffic anyway. n/t wildeyed May 2016 #75

This "we" doesn't. ScreamingMeemie May 2016 #81

It was a silly reply to a silly OP. wildeyed May 2016 #84

LOL ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #77

One team can forfeit if they determine its basically hopeless... DCBob May 2016 #78

Not if they forfeit prematurely....Plus the last states should have a right to express Armstead May 2016 #83

That i think is exactly it Bodhi BloodWave May 2016 #86

Making sense to me Armstead May 2016 #87

Glad to hear it Bodhi BloodWave May 2016 #89

What time did they call the GE in 2012? 2008? JoePhilly May 2016 #88

2008 was something like June7 Armstead May 2016 #91

I mean the general election. JoePhilly May 2016 #92

I don't know what you are referring to then. Armstead May 2016 #94

Once Obama won Ohio, it was over and ... JoePhilly May 2016 #95

But Clinton stayed in until June Armstead May 2016 #97

And then withdrew. JoePhilly May 2016 #98

June 4 2008 Armstead May 2016 #99

And then withdrew. JoePhilly May 2016 #100

May 20 23 Armstead May 2016 #101

Very magnanimous of Obama. JoePhilly May 2016 #102

Do teams ever clinch a playoff spot or home field JoePhilly May 2016 #90

In baseball is there a limit on the number of potential runs a team can score? hack89 May 2016 #119

You're making a great point Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #123