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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Ok then, Let's spell it out for Hillary "Democrats" [View all]Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)160. Me too, all elections are important
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This Revolt Has Been Building For Years - The DWS, DNC, DLC, Third-Way Has Only Themselves To Blame
cantbeserious
May 2016
#1
I don't vote for her. If you hate her so fucking much, call her on the phone.
Buzz Clik
May 2016
#51
Fine. If you choose to take no direct action, then quit expecting me/us to justify what she does.
Buzz Clik
May 2016
#66
The chances of speaking with DWS directly on the phone are very slim indeed. At best
Cal33
May 2016
#139
Give people a reason to vote and they will. Offer a pale imitation of the other party ...
Scuba
May 2016
#87
None ever asked for ponies, that's just a meme from the right-wing of the Democratic Party.
Scuba
May 2016
#96
"What exactly has the establishment done to Bernie supporters? Thrown them out of the party?"
Dragonfli
May 2016
#266
No, the GOP left him but DWS took him in and ran him as a Democrat. That's a betrayal ...
Scuba
May 2016
#246
It's because of the party's establishment connections that do not care about the Average
bkkyosemite
May 2016
#104
The DNC's establishment has done nothing for the Average American they care only about
bkkyosemite
May 2016
#212
Nadin, check out this link, I think you will be among those that understand it.
Dragonfli
May 2016
#267
Nadin doesn't endorse candidates, everybody knows this, she does critique certain tactics and idiocy
Dragonfli
May 2016
#268
False. I'm so fucking tired of this lie you conservadems like to trot out
LondonReign2
May 2016
#289
Paleeze! You shit on Leftists for 30 years and expect them to vote for you?
Peace Patriot
May 2016
#306
In 2009, Democrats in DC had an opportunity to protect our elections and voting rights.
Scuba
May 2016
#217
But it didn't pass, despite Dems having a super-majority in the Senate in 2009 with ...
Scuba
May 2016
#235
They lose, over and over again, DWS and the others still keep their cushy jobs.
leveymg
May 2016
#47
I have considered alternative reasons they have kept DWS in power. None of them good.
Enthusiast
May 2016
#273
Her actual words are worse. Of course I paraphrased but for those interested
berni_mccoy
May 2016
#29
Not this Democrat. Why would either party not what to include and to attract independent voters ?
CentralMass
May 2016
#38
Look at the argument, NCTraveler, though... it is about who can best defeat tRump, can you address
JudyM
May 2016
#75
I am sure you know it is expected that SBS unfavorables will plunge once anyone runs negative....
bettyellen
May 2016
#183
That is not the issue... same as anyone, but his negatives are minuscule in relation to hers.
JudyM
May 2016
#187
What the entire electorate will see as SBS's negatives have not been put out there. The better
bettyellen
May 2016
#192
Most of her margin over him is, like it or not, as a practical matter, not going to help in the GE.
JudyM
May 2016
#194
She is winning the swing states. He is winning tiny empty red states- and that means nothing.
bettyellen
May 2016
#195
I guess I'd say that anything that isn't in the "Solid D" column would be considered at some risk...
thesquanderer
May 2016
#309
Cook Political: the people that gave us "The Numbers Favor Hillary Clinton Over Trump"
brooklynite
May 2016
#311
You don't think that Democrats would vote for Bernie if he wins the nomination?
dana_b
May 2016
#109
We revealed the degree to which Hillarians will sell their souls to defend the indefensible in DWS.
Kip Humphrey
May 2016
#228
Lots of things are theoretically possible. That's why they establish odds and HRC is a 1-3 favorite.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2016
#106
Odds six months out, like polls, cannot be accepted as totally reliable.
thesquanderer
May 2016
#310
Dana Milbank: blah blah blah blah blah ... Derp! ... blah blah blah... fart.
ChisolmTrailDem
May 2016
#265
You seem to have a hard time with the concept Sanders has NEVER been vetted
KittyWampus
May 2016
#77
At the end of teh day, you have to convince DEMOCRATS that you're the best candidate.
Adrahil
May 2016
#82
The Party elite were "ready for Hillary" long before she announced her candidacy.
senz
May 2016
#171
I thought it was a very liberating comment. I don't know about anyone else but it's a package deal
Autumn
May 2016
#110
Reasonable "Independents" will rally behind Hillary. The "HillaryHaters" will not. We don't care ...
NurseJackie
May 2016
#114
In the General Election, with Clinton v. Trump, I trust independents to look at their choices
Agnosticsherbet
May 2016
#152
I know a few Repubs that will not be voting for Donald or anyone. I think there are
Pisces
May 2016
#196
You might want to check your sources on that. Trump has done well with evangelicals.
BillZBubb
May 2016
#279
Let's spell it out for Bernie fans: HRC has won 12.2 miln votes, Trump: 10.1 miln, Bernie: 9.1 miln
Bill USA
May 2016
#226
When you have the apparatchiks known as superdelegates, the vote suppression, etc you go crazy. n/t
bobthedrummer
May 2016
#232
"This is why comments like DWS "We don't need the independents" comment so damn stupid. "
malokvale77
May 2016
#255
That's not accurate. Even Obama didn't need to win the independent vote in 2012.
BzaDem
May 2016
#258
I'm not sure how you get from "primary turnout gap" to "need to win independents by double digits"
BzaDem
May 2016
#263
In case you haven't noticed, historically primary turnout is not a predictor of general election
onenote
May 2016
#308
unfortunately, they are unable to process that information. a sad day for democracy.
pdsimdars
May 2016
#290
Guess who else has an unprecedented unfavorable rating among indpendents: Trump
onenote
May 2016
#307