2016 Postmortem

Octafish

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69. True. Do you think as President she'll work on campaign finance reform?

Tue May 3, 2016, 06:02 PM

May 2016

You know, make things more Democratic? In other words, will President Hillary Clinton work toward elections that are more open, just and progressive?

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Clintonism SCREWED the Democrats: How Bill, Hillary & DLC Gutted Progressivism [View all] Octafish May 2016 OP

And the countdown to your departure continues.... Buzz Clik May 2016 #1

hehe... SidDithers May 2016 #2

SidDithers of DU. LOL. Octafish May 2016 #7

Why are you so rude? pmorlan1 May 2016 #3

Because that one and those with whom it associates FlatBaroque May 2016 #11

Very true. NewImproved Deal May 2016 #28

For some reason, things that don't fit in with his belief system really bother Buzz Clik. Octafish May 2016 #12

Interesting.. disillusioned73 May 2016 #96

Because the OP offends their gods. senz May 2016 #77

You get hurt feelings from the truth? Octafish May 2016 #4

pffft. You're projecting. Buzz Clik May 2016 #14

When ad hominem is all you have, you don't have anything. Octafish May 2016 #17

Look up the definition of ad hominem and try again. Buzz Clik May 2016 #18

The definition of closed minded. Octafish May 2016 #23

Then Buzz Clik is the definition of a DU disrupter PufPuf23 May 2016 #52

Respond to the article like an adult kaleckim May 2016 #54

You could go fly a kite for all you bring to the discussion. JEB May 2016 #20

interesting irony... Buzz Clik May 2016 #21

I guess you don't like what you see JEB May 2016 #26

pretty weak, dude. Buzz Clik May 2016 #27

I am blown away by your substantive, insightful posts. JEB May 2016 #32

Actually, Buzz Clik May 2016 #33

.. frylock May 2016 #22

SNARF! Octafish May 2016 #55

The fact kaleckim May 2016 #53

Your contributions are all counterfeit. dchill May 2016 #76

K&R thanks for posting this, Octafish! amborin May 2016 #5

The Democratic Weaselship Council Octafish May 2016 #13

Joan Walsh said, "a whiny collection of special interests — labor." JW was anti-labor, then, too. amborin May 2016 #35

''Unwashed.'' ''Unintelligent.'' ''Unmonied.'' Octafish May 2016 #37

Anyone with 5 minutes to spare democrank May 2016 #6

So who is Al From? Octafish May 2016 #16

KNR FlatBaroque May 2016 #8

How the DLC Does It Octafish May 2016 #19

Koch Brothers Money helped get Bill Clinton elected: bvar22 May 2016 #68

And now Charles Koch likes Hillary for president. senz May 2016 #79

She plans to complete the gutting if 'elected' President yourpaljoey May 2016 #9

Like privatizing Social Security? Octafish May 2016 #24

wow yourpaljoey May 2016 #34

K&R vintx May 2016 #10

The New Democrats: The Coalition Pharma and Wall Street Love Octafish May 2016 #31

That things like this don't seem to matter to them just kills me. vintx May 2016 #42

UBS Wealth Management is Buy Partisan Octafish May 2016 #47

BC has so many unsavory cohorts. senz May 2016 #80

Excellent article, except for the first phrase of the excerpt tularetom May 2016 #15

History to fill gaps in the fossil record... Octafish May 2016 #36

Gutted? This presumes they and Democrats were progressives to begin with. apnu May 2016 #25

JFK battled Wall Street and Big Business Octafish May 2016 #40

Like I said, the Democratic Party has a spotty history. apnu May 2016 #41

Not exactly. JFK is one of many Democrats who believe in Democracy. Octafish May 2016 #44

OK you like JFK, I get it. I like him too apnu May 2016 #48

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. addressed Wayne State University in 2007... Octafish May 2016 #50

Sweet! Glad you're around. (nt) apnu May 2016 #57

K&R! dana_b May 2016 #29

That's why we gotta stay and FIGHT! Octafish May 2016 #43

putting up with you? dana_b May 2016 #46

Salon has turned into an irrelevant rag tonyt53 May 2016 #30

Like Don't Ask Don't Tell? Octafish May 2016 #38

K&R Dragonfli May 2016 #39

GE CEO: I Will Not Release State Department Emails From Hillary Clinton Octafish May 2016 #61

I think I know where Immelt is going with this and where he stands politically Dragonfli May 2016 #62

Another fantastic thread, Octafish! So much information. K&R. nt. polly7 May 2016 #45

What Hillary tells the BIG WIGs Octafish May 2016 #60

Very true. K&R Betty Karlson May 2016 #49

$5 BILLION IN POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS BOUGHT WALL STREET FREEDOM FROM REGULATION, RESTRAINT Octafish May 2016 #84

This information has already had its own OP, I hope? Betty Karlson May 2016 #91

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #51

The New Deal created the Middle Class... Octafish May 2016 #113

Kickin' immoderate May 2016 #56

LESSON: Instead of acting like cowardly Republicans, we need to act like brave Democrats. Octafish May 2016 #115

Happy to fight against the *proliferation of Reaganite presidents,* immoderate May 2016 #116

K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB May 2016 #58

Maybe the DLC didn't NEED to turn to the RIGHT. They just, em, WANTED to. Octafish May 2016 #114

Kick! felix_numinous May 2016 #59

Another beautiful loser thread anigbrowl May 2016 #63

Here's to being "practical" farleftlib May 2016 #64

Well I'm going to put my own interests first anigbrowl May 2016 #67

So we must settle for whomever. Octafish May 2016 #65

That's how things go in elections anigbrowl May 2016 #66

True. Do you think as President she'll work on campaign finance reform? Octafish May 2016 #69

You should start a new thread if you want to talk about something different anigbrowl May 2016 #71

It is my thread. Octafish May 2016 #72

I guess you've lost the ability to look at the thread history anigbrowl May 2016 #73

''Another beautiful loser thread.'' Octafish May 2016 #74

I didn't promise you'd like it anigbrowl May 2016 #78

Like money trumps peace? Octafish May 2016 #81

Yawn, typical that you would respond with copypasta nt anigbrowl May 2016 #82

Why waste what's worth knowing? Octafish May 2016 #85

Apparently I know a lot more about winning elections anigbrowl May 2016 #86

Not apparently. It would show. Octafish May 2016 #88

Only to those with eyes to see anigbrowl May 2016 #89

For you, that's profound. Octafish May 2016 #99

The loss of 910 state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 house seats, 13 Senate seats is a success? Cobalt Violet May 2016 #94

It doesn't look like you are going to win the general. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #93

You're so mired in the rigged system you don't see that CrispyQ May 2016 #101

You know I'm from Europe, right? anigbrowl May 2016 #109

Clintons have played a key role in the dismantling of the Democratic party. tabasco May 2016 #70

They act as if there's no one to turn to. And they are right: apart from Bernie... Octafish May 2016 #75

K&R - thanks, Octafish senz May 2016 #83

Hillary Clinton's Ghosts: A Legacy of Pushing the Democratic Party to the Right Octafish May 2016 #110

“The moderate and conservative Democrats didn’t make it past the first round in its primaries..... DJ13 May 2016 #87

K & R AzDar May 2016 #90

K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast May 2016 #92

These sort of posts Demsrule86 May 2016 #95

If Hillary Clinton can't stand up to the facts, what chance does she really have? Octafish May 2016 #97

K&R.. disillusioned73 May 2016 #98

And then there's this: CrispyQ May 2016 #100

I had to read the comments for that, I thought it must have been satire. polly7 May 2016 #103

You can see a lot of us thought it was satire. CrispyQ May 2016 #105

I just read this, Octafish .. I'm positive everyone here knows of all of it polly7 May 2016 #102

Our suffering translates to their power. Octafish May 2016 #107

Except this article overlooks why the DLC rose. One of the 99 May 2016 #104

October Surprise + Safari Club = CIA Old Boys in Power For Ever and Ever Octafish May 2016 #106

K&R#121 n/t bobthedrummer May 2016 #108

Phil GRAMM is why I wouldn't have voted for Bankster Bail Out Bill. Octafish May 2016 #118

K&R nt antigop May 2016 #111

And let's not forget the Telecommunications Act of 1996 Time for change May 2016 #112

Roughly a couple of hours spent reading through all this material... 2banon May 2016 #117