2016 Postmortem

pat_k

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16. Unaffiliated voters are the ones making a difference.

Tue May 3, 2016, 10:09 PM

May 2016

Last edited Tue May 3, 2016, 11:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Open vs. "Semi-Closed" or states where you can change party affiliation the same day are effectively the same.

The difference is allowing the biggest "party" -- unaffiliated (aka "Independent&quot voters to vote.

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Sanders Has a good shot to win Cali by 20 Plus points based on Today and Latest Polls! [View all] fluffyclouds May 2016 OP

Isn't it semi closed? Republicans cannot vote- which is bad for SBS. bettyellen May 2016 #1

You are correct rufus dog May 2016 #2

Good. From here on in, totally open primaries are not great for Dems. DT has the nod. bettyellen May 2016 #3

GOP voters have until 23 May to change party. I'll bet today's cleared field for Trump JimDandy May 2016 #41

Oh shucks- I thought the deadline was this week. bettyellen May 2016 #45

Ah, "GOP voters are breaking for Bernie" is the new Brockspeak, you say. delrem May 2016 #49

Cute? Nope. That is why I favor closed primaries. GOPers like to fuck with our elections. bettyellen May 2016 #50

Here's a clue: Bernie Sanders' supporters "break for Bernie". delrem May 2016 #51

Another clue: RW sites have been encouraging Republicans to do it too. And Bernie does win RW- bettyellen May 2016 #52

Oh bullshit. Rush Limbaugh was the person who invented the PUMA, remember? delrem May 2016 #53

IDK about the PUMA shit, sorry. But you having faith in the word of RW neocons- LOL, not bettyellen May 2016 #56

Yah. OK. But here's another clue: delrem May 2016 #59

I know that- they share many (but not all) of my concerns, big difference is the how to do it. bettyellen May 2016 #60

That isn't what you've been saying, bettyellen. delrem May 2016 #61

I have no clue what you are going on about- like Hillary, I am fairly aligned with most bettyellen May 2016 #62

Then I suggest you reread the thread, starting from the post that I originally replied to. /nt delrem May 2016 #63

We have only been talking about election process in terms of who can vote. and yeah- I don't want bettyellen May 2016 #64

No, you were talking about supporters who "break for Bernie". delrem May 2016 #66

I said the GOP has been encouraging people to vote for SBS in some open primaries. And it is true. bettyellen May 2016 #69

Don't forget that she is the Wicked Witch of the West Arneoker May 2016 #85

Hillary's wins in the South are also useless by that measure. Those states will not vote Democratic JDPriestly May 2016 #77

I think she can turn GA purple. And she has won MORE swing states, more states period. bettyellen May 2016 #86

re: "Has he EVER got 65% of the vote?" thesquanderer May 2016 #94

8 states, mostly red- so that is what= 16 electoral votes total from his eight strongest states? bettyellen May 2016 #96

You've changed the conversation. thesquanderer May 2016 #97

Actually the premise of this conversation is winning when it matters- blue and purple states- and bettyellen May 2016 #98

I was only responding to your comment "Has he EVER got 65% of the vote?" thesquanderer May 2016 #99

I agree with you on all except the importance of having strong support in swing states.... bettyellen May 2016 #100

re: "strong support in swing states... is what guarantees Clinton a path in November" thesquanderer May 2016 #103

I think it means Clinton can take Ohio, Florida for sure, and other swing states bettyellen May 2016 #105

We have a lot of Peace and Freedom and Green Party voters in California who will vote for Bernie. JDPriestly May 2016 #76

We take Cali in the general no matter what, so can't make concessions to change candidates more bettyellen May 2016 #78

One post says that Republicans are crossing over to vote for Bernie because they like him, JDPriestly May 2016 #81

you know Republicans were pushing Bernie forward for the PRIMARY, right? bettyellen May 2016 #84

Perhaps a better strategy is to get them to start voting for Democrats LondonReign2 May 2016 #92

Sure- but if registering 2-3 months in advance is an issue because they are on the fence..... bettyellen May 2016 #93

No, only unaffiliated can choose to vote the Dem ballot Brother Buzz May 2016 #10

And they can't vote in the Republican primary. Barack_America May 2016 #20

Correct, only republicans can vote the the republican primary - It's totally closed Brother Buzz May 2016 #34

Thats almost the best thing I've heard all night. Hahaha Biaviians May 2016 #58

Unaffiliated voters are the ones making a difference. pat_k May 2016 #16

Cali does not have same day registration. So there is that. bettyellen May 2016 #22

Perfect combination actually. JackRiddler May 2016 #74

If and when he does that, after a 25 point blowout in Oregon, he will pull it off,,,with our help:) litlbilly May 2016 #4

I think Oregon is gonna look like WA artislife May 2016 #5

Yes it is. We dont want to let Washington beat us...I just voted today, best vote i ever cast. litlbilly May 2016 #6

We may have to have a microbrew off, dude! artislife May 2016 #8

You bet:) litlbilly May 2016 #15

Mcmenamins! JudyM May 2016 #35

Mmm! artislife May 2016 #36

Wish I could get it here on the east coast, great beer. JudyM May 2016 #39

Not my favorite beer but my favorite commercial artislife May 2016 #40

Yeah, very cute! JudyM May 2016 #43

Mmmm, Henry's. progressoid May 2016 #102

Better than a lot, for sure! nt artislife May 2016 #107

That means we must win by over 73%! Pastiche423 May 2016 #21

I think its doable. these are different times. litlbilly May 2016 #23

Now each of you go find 5 more people who will do the same jwirr May 2016 #101

Noo you bastards! I predicted WA was going to be best Bernie State, Washington Pride! Joob May 2016 #104

:)I would happy with a tie. Washington and Oregon rocks litlbilly May 2016 #106

I don't doubt that Bernie will win big in Oregon, but it will not be by nearly as much as he won by StevieM May 2016 #11

Maybe, but, you watch the turnout, its all vote by mail, we get 75% return ballots, we litlbilly May 2016 #17

I wonder if mail-in voting will have any affect on the totals passiveporcupine May 2016 #19

I heard there was a huge voter to dem serge before the deadline. I was an indie till July litlbilly May 2016 #28

I hope you are right. passiveporcupine May 2016 #29

Me too:) litlbilly May 2016 #30

Fingers crossed. JudyM May 2016 #37

He needs to be winning by an average of 30. Adrahil May 2016 #7

He needs more than double that- in ALL the remaining states. bettyellen May 2016 #79

Correct! fluffyclouds May 2016 #9

The republican primary votes still occur. nt Codeine May 2016 #12

Are you replying to yourself? Sparkly May 2016 #13

Kasich is still in the race so I don't think you can call the GOP race wrapped up. StevieM May 2016 #14

You forgot to log your sock out Codeine May 2016 #18

HA HA HA bettyellen May 2016 #24

Oh ain't she sweet passiveporcupine May 2016 #25

LOL! Correct the record isn't paying enough. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #42

Talking to yourself!?!?! HA HA HA bettyellen May 2016 #26

Right. Also, many republicans may prefer his chances against tRump and switch over. I'll take it. JudyM May 2016 #38

Delusional ContinentalOp May 2016 #27

diverse states like Oklahoma, Hawaii, and Alaska? Oh wait, never mind, not the 'right diversity' JonLeibowitz May 2016 #44

Yes, he won Hawaii, which is the most diverse state in the nation. ContinentalOp May 2016 #48

Bernie courage I admire Protalker May 2016 #31

We're working hard for Bernie here in CA! amborin May 2016 #32

I always have thought Bernie could win big in CA,, and working to make it so. We can still register highprincipleswork May 2016 #33

He could win EVERY STATE by 20 points and he would STILL LOSE. pnwmom May 2016 #46

Yes, but the polls also had her winning big over Bernie rusty fender May 2016 #55

The most recent Indiana poll creeksneakers2 May 2016 #65

Not to mention Nate Silver gave her a 90% chance of winning SheilaT May 2016 #72

No, they were predicting about a 4% win, which was within the margin of error. pnwmom May 2016 #68

There was a poll on Monday rusty fender May 2016 #75

That was an outlier. The aggregate made them much closer. I agree that this "limbo" pnwmom May 2016 #80

I was neutral in this primary race, rusty fender May 2016 #90

It is. Hillary now has to fight a pointless two-front war. nt pnwmom May 2016 #112

Another poll that only used registered Democrats. progressoid May 2016 #109

That sentence saying "registered Democrats" was misleading shorthand. The correct information pnwmom May 2016 #110

That seems even more vague. progressoid May 2016 #113

It isn't vague if you go into their site and read their questionnaire. But they are incentivized pnwmom May 2016 #114

He lost the non-white vote in IN by 28 points DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #47

Clinton only dominates AA minority voters kcjohn1 May 2016 #57

She has done well in states with big hispanic populations too. ContinentalOp May 2016 #67

Bernie won hispanics in IL kcjohn1 May 2016 #70

True, he won the hispanic vote in IL by 1% which is probably within the margin of error ContinentalOp May 2016 #73

To amplify on your thoughts. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #87

I believe most Hispanics believe in one God. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #83

They do? I didn't know that. nt NWCorona May 2016 #71

Non-white =more than African American voters DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #82

Hope you are right. A very strong finish would.. mvd May 2016 #54

KICK AND FUCKING RECOMMEND. LWolf May 2016 #88

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LOL.. latest polls!! ... May 03, 2016, Poll: Sanders trails Clinton by double digits in California DCBob May 2016 #91

Unfortunately, winning CA by 20+ points probably won't be enough. thesquanderer May 2016 #95

I hope so, but didn't we hear about some more voter registration "irregularities" in CA last week? pdsimdars May 2016 #108

So what it won't be enough to get the nomination even if he did win CA by 20-- book_worm May 2016 #111