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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Ok then, Let's spell it out for Hillary "Democrats" [View all]BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)279. You might want to check your sources on that. Trump has done well with evangelicals.
The religious right likes him. Republican women will fall in line and vote for him over Hillary.
Your anecdotal observations are meaningless.
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This Revolt Has Been Building For Years - The DWS, DNC, DLC, Third-Way Has Only Themselves To Blame
cantbeserious
May 2016
#1
I don't vote for her. If you hate her so fucking much, call her on the phone.
Buzz Clik
May 2016
#51
Fine. If you choose to take no direct action, then quit expecting me/us to justify what she does.
Buzz Clik
May 2016
#66
The chances of speaking with DWS directly on the phone are very slim indeed. At best
Cal33
May 2016
#139
Give people a reason to vote and they will. Offer a pale imitation of the other party ...
Scuba
May 2016
#87
None ever asked for ponies, that's just a meme from the right-wing of the Democratic Party.
Scuba
May 2016
#96
"What exactly has the establishment done to Bernie supporters? Thrown them out of the party?"
Dragonfli
May 2016
#266
No, the GOP left him but DWS took him in and ran him as a Democrat. That's a betrayal ...
Scuba
May 2016
#246
It's because of the party's establishment connections that do not care about the Average
bkkyosemite
May 2016
#104
The DNC's establishment has done nothing for the Average American they care only about
bkkyosemite
May 2016
#212
Nadin, check out this link, I think you will be among those that understand it.
Dragonfli
May 2016
#267
Nadin doesn't endorse candidates, everybody knows this, she does critique certain tactics and idiocy
Dragonfli
May 2016
#268
False. I'm so fucking tired of this lie you conservadems like to trot out
LondonReign2
May 2016
#289
Paleeze! You shit on Leftists for 30 years and expect them to vote for you?
Peace Patriot
May 2016
#306
In 2009, Democrats in DC had an opportunity to protect our elections and voting rights.
Scuba
May 2016
#217
But it didn't pass, despite Dems having a super-majority in the Senate in 2009 with ...
Scuba
May 2016
#235
They lose, over and over again, DWS and the others still keep their cushy jobs.
leveymg
May 2016
#47
I have considered alternative reasons they have kept DWS in power. None of them good.
Enthusiast
May 2016
#273
Her actual words are worse. Of course I paraphrased but for those interested
berni_mccoy
May 2016
#29
Not this Democrat. Why would either party not what to include and to attract independent voters ?
CentralMass
May 2016
#38
Look at the argument, NCTraveler, though... it is about who can best defeat tRump, can you address
JudyM
May 2016
#75
I am sure you know it is expected that SBS unfavorables will plunge once anyone runs negative....
bettyellen
May 2016
#183
That is not the issue... same as anyone, but his negatives are minuscule in relation to hers.
JudyM
May 2016
#187
What the entire electorate will see as SBS's negatives have not been put out there. The better
bettyellen
May 2016
#192
Most of her margin over him is, like it or not, as a practical matter, not going to help in the GE.
JudyM
May 2016
#194
She is winning the swing states. He is winning tiny empty red states- and that means nothing.
bettyellen
May 2016
#195
I guess I'd say that anything that isn't in the "Solid D" column would be considered at some risk...
thesquanderer
May 2016
#309
Cook Political: the people that gave us "The Numbers Favor Hillary Clinton Over Trump"
brooklynite
May 2016
#311
You don't think that Democrats would vote for Bernie if he wins the nomination?
dana_b
May 2016
#109
We revealed the degree to which Hillarians will sell their souls to defend the indefensible in DWS.
Kip Humphrey
May 2016
#228
Lots of things are theoretically possible. That's why they establish odds and HRC is a 1-3 favorite.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2016
#106
Odds six months out, like polls, cannot be accepted as totally reliable.
thesquanderer
May 2016
#310
Dana Milbank: blah blah blah blah blah ... Derp! ... blah blah blah... fart.
ChisolmTrailDem
May 2016
#265
You seem to have a hard time with the concept Sanders has NEVER been vetted
KittyWampus
May 2016
#77
At the end of teh day, you have to convince DEMOCRATS that you're the best candidate.
Adrahil
May 2016
#82
The Party elite were "ready for Hillary" long before she announced her candidacy.
senz
May 2016
#171
I thought it was a very liberating comment. I don't know about anyone else but it's a package deal
Autumn
May 2016
#110
Reasonable "Independents" will rally behind Hillary. The "HillaryHaters" will not. We don't care ...
NurseJackie
May 2016
#114
In the General Election, with Clinton v. Trump, I trust independents to look at their choices
Agnosticsherbet
May 2016
#152
I know a few Repubs that will not be voting for Donald or anyone. I think there are
Pisces
May 2016
#196
You might want to check your sources on that. Trump has done well with evangelicals.
BillZBubb
May 2016
#279
Let's spell it out for Bernie fans: HRC has won 12.2 miln votes, Trump: 10.1 miln, Bernie: 9.1 miln
Bill USA
May 2016
#226
When you have the apparatchiks known as superdelegates, the vote suppression, etc you go crazy. n/t
bobthedrummer
May 2016
#232
"This is why comments like DWS "We don't need the independents" comment so damn stupid. "
malokvale77
May 2016
#255
That's not accurate. Even Obama didn't need to win the independent vote in 2012.
BzaDem
May 2016
#258
I'm not sure how you get from "primary turnout gap" to "need to win independents by double digits"
BzaDem
May 2016
#263
In case you haven't noticed, historically primary turnout is not a predictor of general election
onenote
May 2016
#308
unfortunately, they are unable to process that information. a sad day for democracy.
pdsimdars
May 2016
#290
Guess who else has an unprecedented unfavorable rating among indpendents: Trump
onenote
May 2016
#307